Gearbox mod ?

Gearbox mod ?

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macdeb

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8,510 posts

255 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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Hi blokes,
I realise my T5 box may be on borrowed time pushing 554 lb/ft of torque, so what's the opinion on the best upgrade? My T5 re-worked or another box altogether? I've experienced no problems so far but,,,,,.
I also keep going for another gear such is the response in 5th hehe

Engineer1949

1,423 posts

144 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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I would go tremec 600 or 660 they both have multiple gear lever positions to help with installation none of the rediculous contraption over the chassis either its what i am using on the ls3 cerbera i am slowly doing you can also select ratios to a certain extent.

John

SILICONEKID345HP

14,997 posts

231 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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Where can you get an adapter plate ? I would like a six speed with a high six speed for low rpm cruising .

Hoofa

3,151 posts

208 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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Well I would go for quaife internals with forged selector forks, box straight out and back in again, check out gearbox man as he is the one doing the quaife bits. I also went with shot peened option. Now you have a choice if your running that sort power gearbox conversions or mods are not going to be cheap. So I guess it comes down to how much do want to spend and how much faffing about do you want to do. I went easy option upgrade the T5

Of course next thing will be the longevity of the clutch........ Yup had the big helix that was ste after 2000 miles, mcleod twin plate so far so good

Oh then there is the diff, I went quaife with that too.....

Engineer1949

1,423 posts

144 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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Tremec is a gearbox used in many aplications wouldnt surprise me if one is available if all else fails i could fabricate one

John

Pupp

12,224 posts

272 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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Surely a lot of this comes down to driving style and mechanical sympathy - on road tyres, the torque will overcome traction long before mechanical limits are reached? I hope... Accept that's not going to help on the strip/track/when used in anger etc

Hoofa

3,151 posts

208 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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known probs of the T5 box is the fifth gear and selector forks, if you have the power no doubt your going to use it and it will find the weak links

Sardonicus

18,961 posts

221 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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Pupp said:
Surely a lot of this comes down to driving style and mechanical sympathy - on road tyres, the torque will overcome traction long before mechanical limits are reached? I hope... Accept that's not going to help on the strip/track/when used in anger etc
This ^ my bet would be on a fault developing 1st rather than a blow up i.e losing 5th frown you don't strike me as a tranny abuser Mac yikes seriously though I would wait for something to give ...... if ever scratchchin torque in your case is fairly linear (high but kind) its the shock loads that spit the gearbox internals IMO scratchchin where as banging through the cogs and clutch popping nono


Edited by Sardonicus on Wednesday 22 October 09:38

macdeb

Original Poster:

8,510 posts

255 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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Sardonicus said:
you don't strike me as a tranny abuser Mac yikes

Edited by Sardonicus on Wednesday 22 October 09:38
ooh 'ello?

db484bhpv8

8,655 posts

220 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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Where as i do see myself as a tranny abuser.

I had my T5 rebuilt by John Reid at Readman racing with a few upgrades.

All i can say is what a nice guy John is and the work was very reasonably priced.

The box has suffered all sorts of abuse and driveshafts have snapped but the box still works as smooth as it did when i fitted it.

macdeb

Original Poster:

8,510 posts

255 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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I'd certainly be interested in any recommendations. My fear is if I leave it as is, it will eventually go at some point and there is nothing worse than having all that power and being afraid to use it, seems pointless. I have some uprated driveshafts to fit and the John Eales clutch I fitted for nitrous use [standard couldn't cope] is doing a great job so far.
I want to weigh up costs etc, and obviously the easiest would be to have the T5 worked on as Derek and Nigel have had [can you give me some details Nige?] Then there is the appeal of having a sixth gear, but which box and what adaptations have to be accounted for. confused

macdeb

Original Poster:

8,510 posts

255 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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Engineer1949 said:
Tremec is a gearbox used in many aplications wouldnt surprise me if one is available if all else fails i could fabricate one

John
Hi John, thanks. I should be manning the TVRCC stand at the NEC next month, will you be there with Nick? Maybe we could have a chat beer

db484bhpv8

8,655 posts

220 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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or a 3.08 diff
You can do over 176 easy with one of those wink

Quinny

15,814 posts

266 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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macdeb said:
Hi blokes,
I realise my T5 box may be on borrowed time pushing 554 lb/ft of torque, so what's the opinion on the best upgrade? My T5 re-worked or another box altogether? I've experienced no problems so far but,,,,,.
I also keep going for another gear such is the response in 5th hehe
At your age you should be thinking about sticking an auto in it...hehebiggrin

macdeb

Original Poster:

8,510 posts

255 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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Quinny said:
At your age you should be thinking about sticking an auto in it...hehebiggrin
Bloody kids punch

SILICONEKID345HP

14,997 posts

231 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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macdeb said:
Hi John, thanks. I should be manning the TVRCC stand at the NEC next month, will you be there with Nick? Maybe we could have a chat beer
Will you be buying me a drink ?cool

sgrimshaw

7,323 posts

250 months

Thursday 23rd October 2014
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macdeb said:
I have some uprated driveshafts to fit
Do you have a link / details of the uprated driveshafts please.

Mine are due for replacement and I was considering whether it's worth putting in uprated ones.

Thanks

Simon

Brummmie

5,284 posts

221 months

Thursday 23rd October 2014
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A reworked T5 is not going to defy physics, the gears and shafts are still very small compared to a TKO600, and there is no way around this, each component/tooth is still under lots more load, due to surface area even if it is made of unobtainium.
A Tremec 6 speed will compromise your exhaust size/clearance, personally if i were you its a TKO600 with a 3.08 diff..

Why dont you have a drive of mine and get a feel for the box/ratios?


Edited by Brummmie on Thursday 23 October 11:27

Pupp

12,224 posts

272 months

Thursday 23rd October 2014
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As another potentially in the same boat, does the TKO600 mate with the T5 bellhousing we have or is some other method of mounting needed?

macdeb

Original Poster:

8,510 posts

255 months

Thursday 23rd October 2014
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SILICONEKID345HP said:
Will you be buying me a drink ?cool
Don't I always? Still on the Babycham? hehe