LED Headlights

LED Headlights

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WokingWedger

1,030 posts

205 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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Adrian@ said:
No...not even anyway near it, the standard plastic bulb holders are not up to taking the 100/80 bulb...I have seen lots of them melted.
Adrian@
You can buy a jump loom to a ceramic holder though.

Edited by Adrian@ on Tuesday 11th November 20:46
Is it just the bulb holder/lamp holder (my old physics teacher used to say Bulbs are things that grow in a garden), or is the wiring loom also marginal for the 80/100W bulbs (whack - ouch - sorry sir)

Adrian@

4,307 posts

282 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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The OE wiring is as such up for the job, the connector melts from the heat...BUT, when upgrading the switch/fuse box IMHO is not, so I would only ever be using the standard wiring to strike up a relay and take a new fused power supply from the battery/starter motor to then power from the relay to a new headlamp loom set.
Adrian@

SILICONEKID345HP

14,997 posts

231 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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Adrian@ said:
The OE wiring is as such up for the job, the connector melts from the heat...BUT, when upgrading the switch/fuse box IMHO is not, so I would only ever be using the standard wiring to strike up a relay and take a new fused power supply from the battery/starter motor to then power from the relay to a new headlamp loom set.
Adrian@
Have you tested to see volt drop ?

blitzracing

6,387 posts

220 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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Personally Id run a 30 amp cable directly from the back of the alternator output, down to the back of the headlights via fuse, with a couple of relays near the headlights being switched from the old headlight dip and full feed wires if you are running halogens. Keep the power wirng short as possible, and use really good quality wire- this way you can get up to 14 volts on the bulbs- not that this matter at all if you want to run LEDs that draw just a few amps.

SILICONEKID345HP

14,997 posts

231 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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blitzracing said:
Personally Id run a 30 amp cable directly from the back of the alternator output, down to the back of the headlights via fuse, with a couple of relays near the headlights being switched from the old headlight dip and full feed wires if you are running halogens. Keep the power wirng short as possible, and use really good quality wire- this way you can get up to 14 volts on the bulbs- not that this matter at all if you want to run LEDs that draw just a few amps.
Do you have a wiring diagram ,not sure how to wire both the dip and full beam in to the same relay

Pink_Floyd

900 posts

221 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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SILICONEKID345HP said:
Do you have a wiring diagram ,not sure how to wire both the dip and full beam in to the same relay
Need 2 relays, 1 for dip 1 for main.

schmunk

4,399 posts

125 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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Sardonicus said:
Where from, and how much, please?

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Sardonicus

18,957 posts

221 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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Scangrip Nova 30 and I purchased mine from a tool guy wink for DIY you may find the Nova 20 will do you biggrin instant daylight yes

schmunk

4,399 posts

125 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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Thanks!

blitzracing

6,387 posts

220 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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SILICONEKID345HP said:
Do you have a wiring diagram ,not sure how to wire both the dip and full beam in to the same relay
I just use two relays so you dont have a single point of failure- but if you want you want you could use a single relay that switches two way- one for dip and one for full. The problem here is you would use a single feed wire to the relay common contact, and therefore a single fuse, and if this pops you loose all your lights in one go- hence use two relays and two fuses to give you fall back. Two relays also allows you to wire both the dip and the full to come on at the same time on full beam if you wish , (with an additional diode or two) but the current draw gets pretty high at near 20 amps for both headlights running both bulb filiments at the same time. Not that should be an issue on a TVR using a Range Rover alternator that has things like a heated screen to contend with- I think they are rated around 50 amps, so there should be spare capacity.

SILICONEKID345HP

14,997 posts

231 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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blitzracing said:
I just use two relays so you dont have a single point of failure- but if you want you want you could use a single relay that switches two way- one for dip and one for full. The problem here is you would use a single feed wire to the relay common contact, and therefore a single fuse, and if this pops you loose all your lights in one go- hence use two relays and two fuses to give you fall back. Two relays also allows you to wire both the dip and the full to come on at the same time on full beam if you wish , (with an additional diode or two) but the current draw gets pretty high at near 20 amps for both headlights running both bulb filiments at the same time. Not that should be an issue on a TVR using a Range Rover alternator that has things like a heated screen to contend with- I think they are rated around 50 amps, so there should be spare capacity.
Thanks will this do the job ?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/H4-9003-12V-Ceramic-Fuse...

blitzracing

6,387 posts

220 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Theres no wiring diagram, but the parts shown look spot on- you would need two.

mk1fan

10,516 posts

225 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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trev4 said:
Any affect on the radio with these bulbs we fitted the domestic versions in our kitchen now all we get is interference when the lights are on apparently a common problem we found out after fitting them
I am assuming that you had 12v lamps fitted. Were proper drivers used or were the previous transformers retained?

WokingWedger

1,030 posts

205 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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blitzracing said:
Theres no wiring diagram, but the parts shown look spot on- you would need two.
Mentions 35W in the main description ?

What does this refer to ?


ChimpOnGas

Original Poster:

9,637 posts

179 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Do you boys want to start a separate post on how to wire up high wattage incandescent bulbs?


Adrian@

4,307 posts

282 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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ChimpOnGas said:
Do you boys want to start a separate post on how to wire up high wattage incandescent bulbs?
DOH...Your LED's don't require any uprated power supply and thing won't be affected by heat...that was a thought when 2k lacquering the reflectors (not a good idea for normal lights.
Adrian@
I'm grateful for any post that keep the topic at the top of the list biggrin

blitzracing

6,387 posts

220 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Adrian@ said:
Why two? that loom, with the main lead extended/eyelets changed to attach the power to starter and earth to the chassis next to the starter, looks perfect, (it powers the relays from a single headlamp socket)..am I missing something.

I am not sure that the extension to the second bulb holder is wired correctly as the blue wire returns out of holder with an eyelet...nothing that cannot be sorted though.
B**gger it I have bought one to look at it...the some of the parts at that price!
Adrian@

Edited by Adrian@ on Friday 14th November 08:44
After a closer look- I think you are correct- it used just one feed plug from a single headlight to switch two, two way relays to feed two bulb sockets. Perfectly fair thing to do.

ChimpOnGas

Original Poster:

9,637 posts

179 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Adrian@ said:
ChimpOnGas said:
Do you boys want to start a separate post on how to wire up high wattage incandescent bulbs?
DOH...Your LED's don't require any uprated power supply and thing won't be affected by heat...that was a thought when 2k lacquering the reflectors
Exactly my point, a new post is normally the best way to go completely off topic yes

Lets keep this one about the LED headlights shall we, after all the topic is titled "LED Headlights" wink

WokingWedger

1,030 posts

205 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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We are just passing time whilst waiting for the next up date from you about the LEDSbounce

SILICONEKID345HP

14,997 posts

231 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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ChimpOnGas said:
Exactly my point, a new post is normally the best way to go completely off topic yes

Lets keep this one about the LED headlights shall we, after all the topic is titled "LED Headlights" wink
The wiring to the lights is not to off topic .. Its part of the installation and worth doing .

Any news with the LED`s




Edited by SILICONEKID345HP on Friday 14th November 14:12


Edited by SILICONEKID345HP on Friday 14th November 14:21