Tyre pressure on 17"

Tyre pressure on 17"

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PH430

Original Poster:

147 posts

128 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2014
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Whats the tyre pressure on 17"
I am drining on 215/45/17 front and 235/45/17 rear

Whats the pressure for track days?

Thanks for your answer

leerdam23

606 posts

261 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2014
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IMHO... 24 psi all round, do a few laps, measure, adjust down to 24psi again when warmish, repeat until happy with the way the car handels, brakes, turns in, etc.....

OleVix

1,438 posts

148 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2014
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I run 26 front and 29 rear on road tyres, 24/26 on trackday tyres... lower than that I feel that it tramlines... will retest in spring when the polybushes are on smile

phazed

21,844 posts

204 months

Thursday 4th December 2014
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24/22 for road

20/22 for track, these pressures are based on the wear pattern on the tyres, usually Triple 8s.

OleVix

1,438 posts

148 months

Thursday 4th December 2014
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phazed said:
24/22 for road

20/22 for track, these pressures are based on the wear pattern on the tyres, usually Triple 8s.
yikes this is the best for max grip?

phazed

21,844 posts

204 months

Thursday 4th December 2014
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OleVix said:
yikes this is the best for max grip?
I have seen over 30 psi when the tyres are hot at these pressures.

If you run much higher pressures you will see the centre of the tyre wear quicker.

That's my experience.

leerdam23

606 posts

261 months

Thursday 4th December 2014
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Yep, on track, measure tyre pressures when hot, ie just after you pit.

PH430

Original Poster:

147 posts

128 months

Thursday 4th December 2014
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I am running on Bridgestone RE002 Adreneline 17".
Which one off you have experience with these tyres?

jesfirth

1,743 posts

242 months

Thursday 4th December 2014
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Tyre pressure depends on the stiffness of the side wall of the tyre. The lower pressures at 20/22 are perfect for b list track tyres such as R888's and ecsta V70's that are B list tyres and generally have very stiff side walls to stop flex and loss of contact patch. I use 20 all round on my griff on R888's.

Standard road tyres or A list have much softer side walls that crush more easily so in general they need a higher pressure to keep the full width of the tread on the road under hard cornering. I am not sure how stiff yours are but I would try 24-26 and see how it feels.

QBee

20,973 posts

144 months

Thursday 4th December 2014
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The important thing is to take a pressure gauge and pump/compressor with you. You will gain 5-8 psi during the day, so will let air out. Phazed has the temps right. You will need to put air back in at the end of the day to get home.

I have a mains compressor (under £100) which I take with me. All race tracks have mains electrics somewhere in the pits.

One other thing you can do is get your TVR guy to add one degree of camber on the front wheels - then your tyres will heat evenly across the tread and you will have much better cornering grip.

SILICONEKID345HP

14,997 posts

231 months

Thursday 4th December 2014
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QBee said:
The important thing is to take a pressure gauge and pump/compressor with you. You will gain 5-8 psi during the day, so will let air out. Phazed has the temps right. You will need to put air back in at the end of the day to get home.

I have a mains compressor (under £100) which I take with me. All race tracks have mains electrics somewhere in the pits.

One other thing you can do is get your TVR guy to add one degree of camber on the front wheels - then your tyres will heat evenly across the tread and you will have much better cornering grip.
Will that cause bump steer and make it even more twitchy for road use ?

QBee

20,973 posts

144 months

Thursday 4th December 2014
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SILICONEKID345HP said:
QBee said:
The important thing is to take a pressure gauge and pump/compressor with you. You will gain 5-8 psi during the day, so will let air out. Phazed has the temps right. You will need to put air back in at the end of the day to get home.

I have a mains compressor (under £100) which I take with me. All race tracks have mains electrics somewhere in the pits.

One other thing you can do is get your TVR guy to add one degree of camber on the front wheels - then your tyres will heat evenly across the tread and you will have much better cornering grip.
Will that cause bump steer and make it even more twitchy for road use ?
Mine seems to be more planted on the road, not less, Daz. A full race set up would be several degrees of camber, one degree just seems to make it more stable.

QBee

20,973 posts

144 months

Thursday 4th December 2014
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Edit my previous post - Phazed has the pressures right.....

CHIMV8

2,768 posts

221 months

Saturday 20th December 2014
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TOYO T1 Rs 24/26??

Having some fitted next week

QBee

20,973 posts

144 months

Saturday 20th December 2014
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Some say 22/24, some 24/26. I have never had those tyres, so you are most likely right. The one thing to avoid is "normal" saloon car pressures, ie 30-33 psi. That will make the car try to kill you.

phazed

21,844 posts

204 months

Saturday 20th December 2014
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Start with 22/24 and see how they wear.

With wider tyres I tend to reduce slightly.

CHIMV8

2,768 posts

221 months

Saturday 20th December 2014
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phazed said:
Start with 22/24 and see how they wear.

With wider tyres I tend to reduce slightly.
Cheers Pete

Goaty Bill 2

3,407 posts

119 months

Saturday 20th December 2014
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OleVix said:
phazed said:
24/22 for road

20/22 for track, these pressures are based on the wear pattern on the tyres, usually Triple 8s.
yikes this is the best for max grip?
smile
I used to keep my S02s below 20lbs for daily road use.
I went through 2 sets with perfectly even wear, never getting much less than 24k miles out of a set.
The next set was S03s and the same seemed to apply as well for them. Much more pressure than that and they were as unpredictable as anything (unless you call knowing you will slide off the road without any hint of what was coming; 'predictable' eek).

I tried those pressures for a few miles on Toyos when when the S03s were no longer available.
I probably don't have to tell most people how bad that felt. Like driving on a road made of sponge. Worse than my old '69 Pontiac Laurentian smile

Different tyres clearly may need entirely different pressures.

Interesting though to read how much it can vary in a day on the track.