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Podie

46,630 posts

275 months

Monday 22nd December 2014
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Just to add my tuppence...

I had a 450 Chimaera with ACT induction kit and V8D MC1 cam. It made 275bhp, and a wedge of torque. Was as South as the proverbial infants arse. Great town manners (ideal as it was a daily driver). Far better than the standard cam, and the H224 that followed it (far too peaky)

The Griff is a 95 500, with HC on the plenum. It was as lumpy as hell in town and around 2000rpm. In the wet, the jump could catch you,out, and around town it would physically move you in the seat due to the drivetrain shunt.

It's had an ACT induction kit, a Kits and Classics blended trumpet base and remap on the 14CUX bY Joolz. Now sat at 295bhp and a good chunk of torque, it's smooth and happy throughout the rev range. It's a different car - I honestly can't explain how much smoother, progressive and easier to drive it is.

I appreciate the arguments for an aftermarket system, but sadly life gets in the way too much and it does under 5000 miles a year, the 14CUX remap makes good sense.

caduceus

6,071 posts

266 months

Monday 22nd December 2014
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domV8 said:
My gut feel is that if you want more torque lower down - you may not want to touch the heads at all...
Dom
That works for me if that's the case smile
Do you know what kind of cam gives lower down torque? Is the Typhoon the way to go, as Pupp has mentioned?

P.s - Sorry Blujay for hijacking your thread :/

phazed

21,844 posts

204 months

Monday 22nd December 2014
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Joolz 5, Austec 0. IMHO.

QBee

20,980 posts

144 months

Monday 22nd December 2014
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Lets post some graphs so that Caduceus can compare the torque range and choose one with low down torque.

I will start with mine:



So it is over 90% of max torque from 2400 to 5250 rpm. Stealth cam in a 5 litre engine.

SILICONEKID345HP

14,997 posts

231 months

Monday 22nd December 2014
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QBee said:
Lets post some graphs so that Caduceus can compare the torque range and choose one with low down torque.

I will start with mine:



So it is over 90% of max torque from 2400 to 5250 rpm. Stealth cam in a 5 litre engine.
So that`s why it was easy to pass you smokin

TV8

3,122 posts

175 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2014
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blujay10 said:
Well thank you all for the advice, especially Blitz, Chimpongas and Qbee, very useful as ever.
Just looked at AA Route planner and looks like a 4 hour drive each way for me to Joolz which is a shame as I think Ill try somewhere a bit nearer like Austec.
The whole thing is a bit weird as it runs fine on a full tank of fuel, but when I'm down below half it starts getting grumpy, bit shunty, and dies as soon as I come to a stop. fill it up with Shells finest V power and its fine, plenty of power right up to the limiter in 3rd and 4th.
Weird. Ill keep investigating and speak to Dan when I can.
Thanks once again, James
has it always done this or is it a new situation?

Re remapping in Crawley, they told me I needed a remap on my last car when it had been fine then started running lean. Turned out to be a faulty AFM.

Chuffmeister

3,597 posts

137 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2014
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By the time you pay for the remap and RR session, you may as well have purchased a new ECU, which will make future mapping much easier, plus does a better job of controlling the spark. There are various TVR places 'down sowf' which offer mapping, but they will also charge a large premium for doing so. Do da maffs... Innit!

KateV8

448 posts

152 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2014
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I'll have a full Canems ecu and loom kit to sell early January. Not advertised yet so just a heads up to anyone who may be intererested. Not thought about the price but it will need to be installed by the buyer so this will be reflected in the price. Not faulty or anything, just not enough outputs for my needs.

SILICONEKID345HP

14,997 posts

231 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2014
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KateV8 said:
I'll have a full Canems ecu and loom kit to sell early January. Not advertised yet so just a heads up to anyone who may be intererested. Not thought about the price but it will need to be installed by the buyer so this will be reflected in the price. Not faulty or anything, just not enough outputs for my needs.
What are you going for next ?

TV8

3,122 posts

175 months

Wednesday 24th December 2014
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Chuffmeister said:
By the time you pay for the remap and RR session, you may as well have purchased a new ECU, which will make future mapping much easier, plus does a better job of controlling the spark. There are various TVR places 'down sowf' which offer mapping, but they will also charge a large premium for doing so. Do da maffs... Innit!
http://www.kitsandclassics.co.uk/engine-ecu/#content-content-inner

£250 including rolling road and no vat. Good maths me thinks


Chuffmeister

3,597 posts

137 months

Wednesday 24th December 2014
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TV8 said:
http://www.kitsandclassics.co.uk/engine-ecu/#conte...

£250 including rolling road and no vat. Good maths me thinks
If you live near there and stick with the original set-up and AFM. His work looks spot on, but for me its close to £150-£200 alone for fuel to get there and back. I did the maths and it works out about half the cost of a new ECU and thats before I start trying to diagnose potential faults with the old loom and 14cux. If your wanting to stay original and aren't planning on modding, then a great idea, but if you adding bits as you go, it becomes expensive to remap on a regular basis. Individual needs of course. Is your 530 still on 14cux?

Edited by Chuffmeister on Wednesday 24th December 10:43

Podie

46,630 posts

275 months

Wednesday 24th December 2014
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Chuffmeister said:
...for me its close to £150-£200 alone for fuel to get there and back.
You pays your money, you takes your choice.

Having used many "TVR specialists" over the years, I'd rather take the car to someone I trust, than someone local.

phazed

21,844 posts

204 months

Wednesday 24th December 2014
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Podie said:
Chuffmeister said:
...for me its close to £150-£200 alone for fuel to get there and back.
You pays your money, you takes your choice.

Having used many "TVR specialists" over the years, I'd rather take the car to someone I trust, than someone local.
What he said.


If I need a general remap I am very happy with Shaun, MS2Tuning, he will travel to you by arrangement.

I am also happy to travel the 360 mile round trip to Joolz, especially for a full power tweak on his rolling road!

blitzracing

6,387 posts

220 months

Wednesday 24th December 2014
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I really need to go and speak again to the local Rolling road in Newbury about the TVR mapping. Last time I was there I asked if they were interested in do work now we have cracked the 14CUX, but I was met with a NO. I want to remap my car when its back on the road, and I now have a fully programmable 14CUX, plus all the required software, plus a wide band Lambda gauge to see whats going on. I have the electronics to produce to perfect lambda signal, so you can now overide the closed loop part of the map, and make fueling corrections based on zero trim, which is what you want. If I can put the theory into practice- Ill go back to the Rolling road with a clear - this is what you do, and see what they say.

Chuffmeister

3,597 posts

137 months

Wednesday 24th December 2014
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Well I agree with what you both say, if you experience good service, then stick with it. It is a shame there doesn't seem to be anybody in the SE with their own RR that will offer this service or anybody with the same reputation. Some of you are in a different league though in terms of mods and performance and have spent so much, it is folly not to eek out every last drop of power. Personally, it is a long way to drive from the arse end of the SE, which makes it less cost-effective, however, having a system with a new loom that sorts out the fuelling and ignition really appeals to me and if Shaun does a good job, then I'm happy with that. If I was up that way, then thats is a different matter.

Edited to say:

Menawhile...looks like Blitz has read between the lines! ^^^

Edited by Chuffmeister on Wednesday 24th December 13:18

Andav469

958 posts

137 months

Wednesday 24th December 2014
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Chuffmeister said:
Well I agree with what you both say, if you experience good service, then stick with it. It is a shame there doesn't seem to be anybody in the SE with their own RR that will offer this service or anybody with the same reputation. Some of you are in a different league though in terms of mods and performance and have spent so much, it is folly not to eek out every last drop of power. Personally, it is a long way to drive from the arse end of the SE, which makes it less cost-effective, however, having a system with a new loom that sorts out the fuelling and ignition really appeals to me and if Shaun does a good job, then I'm happy with that. If I was up that way, then thats is a different matter.
I live within 20 miles of V8 developments and Shaun, your welcome to stay at mine to break up the journey if you decide go the MS route

Chuffmeister

3,597 posts

137 months

Wednesday 24th December 2014
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Andav469 said:
I live within 20 miles of V8 developments and Shaun, your welcome to stay at mine to break up the journey if you decide go the MS route
Thanks for that, very generous.