Need a silencer

Need a silencer

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Chimp871

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837 posts

117 months

Wednesday 28th January 2015
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when I got my Chimp it had straight through pipes, which are great but a little too noisy for me. I have to wear earplugs when going on a long run biggrin Plus

Of course I don't have a silencer box to put back on, as there wasn't one to begin with, and since 2nd hand genuine boxes are rare I was thinking of going aftermarket.

Anything to avoid or to look at.....?

did think of something like this but a little shorter than original
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Magnaflow-11386-Universa...

TV8

3,120 posts

175 months

Wednesday 28th January 2015
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You have mail.

Chuffmeister

3,597 posts

137 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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If you have no luck, the silencer dimensions are here:



There is also a thread with plenty of images on.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Chimp871

Original Poster:

837 posts

117 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Thanks Chuff. Saw your thread which gave me the idea of aftermarket silencer as you showed the dimensions.

Matching length of box to diameter of tubes isn't easy and haven't found a match, hence the shorter box linked above.

Oldred_V8S

3,714 posts

238 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Chimp871 said:
when I got my Chimp it had straight through pipes, which are great but a little too noisy for me. I have to wear earplugs when going on a long run biggrin Plus

Of course I don't have a silencer box to put back on, as there wasn't one to begin with, and since 2nd hand genuine boxes are rare I was thinking of going aftermarket.

Anything to avoid or to look at.....?

did think of something like this but a little shorter than original
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Magnaflow-11386-Universa...
A friend of mine is looking to sell a complete system, if you are still looking.

Chuffmeister

3,597 posts

137 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Chimp871 said:
Thanks Chuff. Saw your thread which gave me the idea of aftermarket silencer as you showed the dimensions.

Matching length of box to diameter of tubes isn't easy and haven't found a match, hence the shorter box linked above.
You could always replace the straight pipe with cherry bomb style silencers. A couple of these would do the job and sound the business.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Universal-Stainless-Stee...

They even do 2.125in fitment.

Chimp871

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837 posts

117 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Good idea, I also want to use flexi hoses rather then welding, in case I miss the noise wink

Question is: does the exhaust need more support than the flexi hoses can offer? e.g. http://exhaustpartsuk.com/index.php?main_page=inde...

Chuffmeister

3,597 posts

137 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Here are the dimensions of the flexi mount sold by Racing Green:



Chimp871

Original Poster:

837 posts

117 months

Sunday 1st February 2015
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Thanks again. Just what I was thinking of. Exhaust is off now, it's been truly messed about with.

Didn't get time to get the calipers on them but it seems slightly larger OD, i'll take some pics and sizes and get back

Chuffmeister

3,597 posts

137 months

Sunday 1st February 2015
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No worries. This is the diameter of the main pipe if that helps:

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The two exhaust outlets from the rear of the standard silencer each have a 51mm ID and a 54mm OD pipe.

Steffo

55 posts

113 months

Thursday 5th February 2015
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I have a similar issue with my Griff. I bought it with precats taken out, main cat in place and sleeved silencer. Not so fond of the sound, a bit tractor like in low revs for my taste. This season I will be running the engine fully decatted, and with only a sleeved silencer it will be too loud for my taste.

So I've been looking around for a proper replacement silencer since a stock TVR piece will be hard to track down (and get delivered here to Sweden...) I have considered the cherry bomb option, but the sound will be far too loud and metallic for me, at least from what I've heard in several youtube clips. Don't like that metallic and popping noise, I prefer a deep and warm tone.

So what about the Magnaflow, Flowmaster etc options on the market, has anyone tried? The fitting part with welding and bending doesn't worry me much, it's the exhaust note that does. I'd rather not spend a day or so under the car just to find out that one particular silencer was too loud after all...


Chimp871

Original Poster:

837 posts

117 months

Thursday 5th February 2015
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I'd be curious to hear of other opinions on this besides cherry bomb

PJ57

245 posts

131 months

Thursday 5th February 2015
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Flowmaster's are quite harsh and aggressive sounding. I had them on a Camaro many years ago. Sounded great on full throttle, and surprisingly little resonance at speed (well with a Chevy V8 anyway). Not sure how they would sound on a Chim, as the chambers are designed for specific engines and resonance output.

Linky below

http://www.flowmastermufflers.com/?page_id=10995

If you click on the series silencer, then the part number, each one has a video attached with sound and engineering vids.

Magnaflow may sound better as more traditional exhaust design like the Chim.

Anyone thought of a full twin pipe exhaust setup with X-over pipe? rather than a merged system that splits again before the silencer?

Edited by PJ57 on Thursday 5th February 15:36

dwhitaker

174 posts

123 months

Thursday 5th February 2015
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These guys in St Albans, re-standardized my exhaust, cutting out the straight through pipes in the silencer, replacing with perforated and packing with wadding, £120 charged.

www.empperformance.com

Cheers
Dave

LordGrover

33,535 posts

212 months

Thursday 5th February 2015
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Plenty out there who will make whatever you want for a reasonable sum.
We have Infinity locally but I'm sure you'll have someone near.

Chuffmeister

3,597 posts

137 months

Thursday 5th February 2015
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Steffo said:
I have a similar issue with my Griff. I bought it with precats taken out, main cat in place and sleeved silencer. Not so fond of the sound, a bit tractor like in low revs for my taste. This season I will be running the engine fully decatted, and with only a sleeved silencer it will be too loud for my taste.

So I've been looking around for a proper replacement silencer since a stock TVR piece will be hard to track down (and get delivered here to Sweden...) I have considered the cherry bomb option, but the sound will be far too loud and metallic for me, at least from what I've heard in several youtube clips. Don't like that metallic and popping noise, I prefer a deep and warm tone.

So what about the Magnaflow, Flowmaster etc options on the market, has anyone tried? The fitting part with welding and bending doesn't worry me much, it's the exhaust note that does. I'd rather not spend a day or so under the car just to find out that one particular silencer was too loud after all...
Just re-sleeve it with a bit of perf. If you take your silencer out, you'll be able to see how it was sleeved (either top cut off the silencer or the end cut off. If you can't see the welding on the top, then you know it is the end!). Both methods are discussed in this thread, with dimensions etc. You can do most of the work yourself with a disc and grinder. Then simply pop it down to your local fabricator to get it welded (unless you can do it yourself). The whole thing cost me about £40 inluding the materials.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Steffo

55 posts

113 months

Thursday 5th February 2015
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Well, in my case the only reasonable option is to build the system myself. With a factory made silencer that is... I will continue look around for a suitable aftermarket part and if it is of interest I will post my results here.

Still... any suggestions and tips are very welcome!

Chimp871

Original Poster:

837 posts

117 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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getting close to sorting my exhaust after getting sidetracked with chassis refurb.

still not sure how 2 cherry bombs would fit in the red circle as the left side of red circle has a clearance of only 1" between the tubes. You'd think they'd touch.

Is it possible to put the silencers in the blue circle but won't be protected by the exhaust plate.

Edited by Chimp871 on Tuesday 28th April 12:22

Chuffmeister

3,597 posts

137 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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I think you could get two 4x12" stainless silencers in there. It may be worth measuing the distance between the two exhausts at various points to get a better understanding of how far down they could be mounted within the confines of the exhaust plate. Have a look at the ACT web site and see how they've done theirs, it would be very similar.

SILICONEKID345HP

14,997 posts

231 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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Chimp871 said:


getting close to sorting my exhaust after getting sidetracked with chassis refurb.

still not sure how 2 cherry bombs would fit in the red circle as the left side of red circle has a clearance of only 1" between the tubes. You'd think they'd touch.

Is it possible to put the silencers in the blue circle but won't be protected by the exhaust plate.

Edited by Chimp871 on Tuesday 28th April 12:22
This is one converted . The fabricator made the two silencers up . It was still to noisy for me with the de cat Y piece so reverted bact to a standard exhaust . With the standard Y piece it was awesome ,very raspy but not to loud .



Genuine JP (ACT) sports exhaust