Your opinions/views on after market wheels ?

[andygfc]

I have a set of team dynamics 1.2 with federal 595 rsr tyres
Came off my chimaera 17's 215/45 & 235/45 all as new £650
If anyone is interested

[phazed]

andygfc said:

I have a set of team dynamics 1.2 with federal 595 rsr tyres
Came off my chimaera 17's 215/45 & 235/45 all as new £650
If anyone is interested

Be quick before they're gone, (wheels and the post!).

[andygfc]

Tried putting in classifieds, won't let me log in!!!!!

[SILICONEKID345HP]

I would value them at £500

[swanny71]

phazed said:

I ran 255/40/17s on the rear.

They are 10" wide and will take 275mm wide.

I am running 18x9" on the rears and run 265/40/18s.

You have to trim the rears, it would be sacrilege not to with those wheels.

It took me no more than 3 hours to trim and fibreglass, easy peasy honestly.

After many years of searching, I'm about to become the proud father of four beautiful 8x17 ET35 RL7's in the correct 4x108 bolt pattern. Obviously I'm keen to dress them in the best possible rubber boots.

What offset are your fronts and what size tyre are you running please Peter?

The safe choice would probably be 215/40/17 but they might look a little stretched, also they don't do R1R's in that size. So that leaves 215/45/17 which again might be stretched or 235/40/17 which could cause arch/wishbone interference.

I've searched the subject to death on here, and it seems 235/40/17 might just work - your thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks

ETA:
@ Daz - I know you have a bit of a thing about it but I'm comfortable with slightly different tyre circumferences compared to original

Edited by swanny71 on Wednesday 18th February 23:17

[phazed]

That's correct, I run 235/40/17 R1Rs and Triple 8s on 8" x 17"s on the front.

As for the offset, I'll have a measure tomorrow.

Well done with the RL7s, Quinnys?

[OleVix]

swanny71 said:

After many years of searching, I'm about to become the proud father of four beautiful 8x17 ET35 RL7's in the correct 4x108 bolt pattern. Obviously I'm keen to dress them in the best possible rubber boots.

What offset are your fronts and what size tyre are you running please Peter?

The safe choice would probably be 215/40/17 but they might look a little stretched, also they don't do R1R's in that size. So that leaves 215/45/17 which again might be stretched or 235/40/17 which could cause arch/wishbone interference.

I've searched the subject to death on here, and it seems 235/40/17 might just work - your thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks

you should use a 10mm spacer to get et 25 front, and a 2-5mm spacer to get the back right, et33 or 30. 215/45 front and 235/45 rear will be a nice and wise choice without chance of rubbing. 215 won't look stretched on 8in rim. Its fine

[QBee]

OleVix said:

you should use a 10mm spacer to get et 25 front, and a 2-5mm spacer to get the back right, et33 or 30. 215/45 front and 235/45 rear will be a nice and wise choice without chance of rubbing. 215 won't look stretched on 8in rim. Its fine

Personally I would try the rears without a spacer first - I have run ET40 and ET38 wheels with 235 tyres successfully with 5mm spacers, ie bringing them down to ET35 and ET33.
As for the fronts, the later cars had ET33 fronts anyway.....and if you go bigger than a 5mm spacer you will need longer wheel studs. So I suggest you try without spacers first, then if they catch try a pair of 5mm spacers first.
As for choice of front tyre size, here's a chart to help you:

http://www.brick-yard.co.uk/forum/tyre-size-for-ri...

I have got a 235 tyre on a 17 inch rim ET40 - would you like me to pop it on the front of my car with a 5mm spacer to bring it down to ET35 and see what happens before you make the investment decision? I suspect it might be a bit big.
I am presently running 215s on ET33 at the front with no problem. My wheel arches are standard, I don't have Phazed's amazing wide wheel arches and flexible wishbones. But I do keep my ride height perhaps slightly higher than some.

[OleVix]

QBee said:

OleVix said:

you should use a 10mm spacer to get et 25 front, and a 2-5mm spacer to get the back right, et33 or 30. 215/45 front and 235/45 rear will be a nice and wise choice without chance of rubbing. 215 won't look stretched on 8in rim. Its fine

Personally I would try the rears without a spacer first - I have run ET40 and ET38 wheels with 235 tyres successfully with 5mm spacers, ie bringing them down to ET35 and ET33.
As for the fronts, the later cars had ET33 fronts anyway.....and if you go bigger than a 5mm spacer you will need longer wheel studs. So I suggest you try without spacers first, then if they catch try a pair of 5mm spacers first.
As for choice of front tyre size, here's a chart to help you:

http://www.brick-yard.co.uk/forum/tyre-size-for-ri...

I have got a 235 tyre on a 17 inch rim ET40 - would you like me to pop it on the front of my car with a 5mm spacer to bring it down to ET35 and see what happens before you make the investment decision? I suspect it might be a bit big.
I am presently running 215s on ET33 at the front with no problem. My wheel arches are standard, I don't have Phazed's amazing wide wheel arches and flexible wishbones. But I do keep my ride height perhaps slightly higher than some.

Its not about fouling the insides, its about getting the track width right. Narrower width=worse handling. Thats why the sagaris handles better than the t350, wider track front and back, among other mods

[swanny71]

Thanks for your input chaps.

Peter: Yep, the RL7's are from Quinny, hoping to pick them up this weekend. It's a 500 mile round trip but worth it.

Olevix: I've already got 12mm hubcentric and 5mm spacers in the garage ready to go on so hopefully I'm set.

QBee: If you could try the 235/40/17 on the front of yours that would be great. I know these cars are all slightly different so another check by your good self would be appreciated.

Plenty of pics to follow. Might even manage a selection showing 16" Estorils, SP12's and RL7's for Chim owners future referance.

I'm happy the rears will be no trouble - 245/40/17 or 235/45/17 depending on which tyre brand I go with.

Edited by swanny71 on Thursday 19th February 08:03

[phazed]

Just looked at your profile Swanny, nice spec on your car.

It'll be good to see another chim on RL7s, sort of keeps it TVR but different!

Here's a taster with my road wheels, 235/40/17s & 255/40/17s R1Rs from last year.

Edited by phazed on Thursday 19th February 09:42

[brett84]

you're right about the 215's on 8J rims, the tyre fitters screwed mine up and fitted 235s on 17s and 215s on 8s. Didn't really look bad either way though.
Just had to get them swapped over yesterday

[QBee]

OleVix said:

Its not about fouling the insides, its about getting the track width right. Narrower width=worse handling. Thats why the sagaris handles better than the t350, wider track front and back, among other mods

Yes, agreed, you want the best handling....but its also about the tyre fitting into the space available inside the wheel arch.
A good friend fitted a brand new £800+ set of R888s to his Grief and went for 225 fronts and 245 rears. He arrived at his first track day with all four corners catching, either on the inside or outside, or on turning. We did manage to get around most of it by raising his ride height as he is on adjustable dampers. But they still caught a bit.
So get the correct offset (25 or 33 front, 33 rear) and try to resist the temptation to go too wide on the tyre front - it's an expensive error to correct.

Swanny, I will try my 235/45 Bridgestones on the front tomorrow - I mention the tyre make, as they are standard tyres. I cannot remember what tyres you said you were buying, but 235 Toyo R1Rs may well actually turn out to be 10mm wider than my standard road tyres - my Toyo R888s are.

[phazed]

QBee said:

Swanny, I will try my 235/45 Bridgestones on the front tomorrow - I mention the tyre make, as they are standard tyres. I cannot remember what tyres you said you were buying, but 235 Toyo R1Rs may well actually turn out to be 10mm wider than my standard road tyres - my Toyo R888s are.

You only need a 40 profile, 45 will be too tall for the front.

[QBee]

phazed said:

QBee said:

Swanny, I will try my 235/45 Bridgestones on the front tomorrow - I mention the tyre make, as they are standard tyres. I cannot remember what tyres you said you were buying, but 235 Toyo R1Rs may well actually turn out to be 10mm wider than my standard road tyres - my Toyo R888s are.

You only need a 40 profile, 45 will be too tall for the front.

Yes, I realise that thanks Peter, but good to mention it in case I didn't.

They are part worn, which will help by about 6mm compared with new tyres, and a road tyre not a track tyre, but I don't have a 235/40 on a 17 inch rim. When I did a comparison measuring I found the Toyos about 10mm wider IIRC. I will put a tape measure on the tyres to see how they compare for height and width with my other options.

What I was hoping was that the 235/45s would clear both the outer wheel arch and the inside, in which case he would very likely have no problems (all cars are different) with 235/40s on the front.

[andygfc]

SILICONEKID345HP said:

I would value them at £500

I have some other items elsewhere for sale, maybe you could help me with valuations for those too!!!

[Andy JB]

To the OP - as you can see an emotive topic

Personally i would keep originals as no matter how nice aftermarket wheels may look, they always look exactly that ie non-standard or worse IMO. Also affects handling & not always in a good way

You could always fit adjustable springs which most have upgraded anyway to adjust the ride height to fill arches more - also dynamic benefit lower centre of gravity etc

Having said that o/e tyre sizes are getting more scarce now so eventually we may all have to go along this route & increase wheel size

[SILICONEKID345HP]

andygfc said:

I have some other items elsewhere for sale, maybe you could help me with valuations for those too!!!

Why would they be worth £650 ? When i buy second hand especially with used tyres i would not pay more than half price .

A couple of hundred quid less i would rather buy new .

[sapper]

SILICONEKID345HP said:

The sleeves can be removed but do not spin . Jools had some nice one`s but forgot to ask him where he got them from .

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sealey-Alloy-Wheel-Impact-Sockets-1-2-Inch-Square-Drive-6-Point-Socket-19mm-/301336282894?

[OleVix]

the 888s are wider than equivalent street tires and no TVR is the same :/

I fitted 888s, 225/45 r16 front and 225/45 r17 rear on 8 and 9 in rims with std offsets. Full trackday and no fouling. Lowered suspension, but firmed up quite a bit on the dampers! Handling was great and predictable. I fear the 245/40 888s will be a trifle to wide!