T5 Gearbox Linkage
Discussion
ChimpOnGas said:
The only thing I'd change is the gear lever gaiter which is the original TVR leatherette affair and after almost 20 years its unsurprisingly getting a bit tatty now. With the lower stick position and the collar on my knew gear knob the rather inflexible leatherette gaiter is also somewhat bunched up now.
Funny you should say that, I really wasn't getting on with my leatherette with the new linkage, it seemed to be a bit too restrictive so I have just had mine changed, and the handbrake gaiter to match. I still need to shorten the stick a bit which I will get David Batty to do when it is next in for a service.I like the sound of you heavy knob, may I ask where you purchased it from? Those pictures you posted are the standard knob I presume? Have you got any pictures of you new knob?
Hi.
Sorry to resurrect this thread again.
A lot of you have obviously had rebuilds on your gearboxes and I am wondering, out of curiosity how noisy a rebuilt gearbox should be?
Can you hear the gears or bearings "whirring" when the car is ticking over at standstill? I have listened to a few different cars and they all seem quieter than mine.
Comments appreciated, thanks, Chris.
Sorry to resurrect this thread again.
A lot of you have obviously had rebuilds on your gearboxes and I am wondering, out of curiosity how noisy a rebuilt gearbox should be?
Can you hear the gears or bearings "whirring" when the car is ticking over at standstill? I have listened to a few different cars and they all seem quieter than mine.
Comments appreciated, thanks, Chris.
s3c chris said:
Hi.
Sorry to resurrect this thread again.
A lot of you have obviously had rebuilds on your gearboxes and I am wondering, out of curiosity how noisy a rebuilt gearbox should be?
Can you hear the gears or bearings "whirring" when the car is ticking over at standstill? I have listened to a few different cars and they all seem quieter than mine.
Comments appreciated, thanks, Chris.
Culprit bearing for noisy idle if its gearbox is the input shaft front bearing failing this gets least lubrication and cycles more than any of the other bearings Sorry to resurrect this thread again.
A lot of you have obviously had rebuilds on your gearboxes and I am wondering, out of curiosity how noisy a rebuilt gearbox should be?
Can you hear the gears or bearings "whirring" when the car is ticking over at standstill? I have listened to a few different cars and they all seem quieter than mine.
Comments appreciated, thanks, Chris.
and no T5 boxes are v quiet generally and noise should not be present 
Sardonicus said:
s3c chris said:
Hi.
Sorry to resurrect this thread again.
A lot of you have obviously had rebuilds on your gearboxes and I am wondering, out of curiosity how noisy a rebuilt gearbox should be?
Can you hear the gears or bearings "whirring" when the car is ticking over at standstill? I have listened to a few different cars and they all seem quieter than mine.
Comments appreciated, thanks, Chris.
Culprit bearing for noisy idle if its gearbox is the input shaft front bearing failing this gets least lubrication and cycles more than any of the other bearings Sorry to resurrect this thread again.
A lot of you have obviously had rebuilds on your gearboxes and I am wondering, out of curiosity how noisy a rebuilt gearbox should be?
Can you hear the gears or bearings "whirring" when the car is ticking over at standstill? I have listened to a few different cars and they all seem quieter than mine.
Comments appreciated, thanks, Chris.
and no T5 boxes are v quiet generally and noise should not be present MPoxon said:
I like the sound of you heavy knob, may I ask where you purchased it from? Those pictures you posted are the standard knob I presume? Have you got any pictures of you new knob?
The photos I posted are not of my car, they are just to show the Leven ally gaiter surround I'd like to fit, do PM me if you want to know who turned my heavy weight stainless steel knob.I'll try and post a few photos of my gear stick and the new knob soon.
ChimpOnGas said:
Sardonicus said:
s3c chris said:
Hi.
Sorry to resurrect this thread again.
A lot of you have obviously had rebuilds on your gearboxes and I am wondering, out of curiosity how noisy a rebuilt gearbox should be?
Can you hear the gears or bearings "whirring" when the car is ticking over at standstill? I have listened to a few different cars and they all seem quieter than mine.
Comments appreciated, thanks, Chris.
Culprit bearing for noisy idle if its gearbox is the input shaft front bearing failing this gets least lubrication and cycles more than any of the other bearings Sorry to resurrect this thread again.
A lot of you have obviously had rebuilds on your gearboxes and I am wondering, out of curiosity how noisy a rebuilt gearbox should be?
Can you hear the gears or bearings "whirring" when the car is ticking over at standstill? I have listened to a few different cars and they all seem quieter than mine.
Comments appreciated, thanks, Chris.
and no T5 boxes are v quiet generally and noise should not be present .
compared to the clonky/baulky yank boxes they superseded Sardonicus said:
Exactly Dave I think for a fairly light compact box they are fantastic compared to the clonky/baulky yank boxes they superseded
Exactly Simon! compared to the clonky/baulky yank boxes they superseded It is a great box, as the BTR is a great diff, and the Rover V8 (if a little dated now) is great engine.
When I started looking at buying a Chimaera 6 years ago I thought...... "Ok they have a bad reputation were reliability is concerned, but hey there's some great proven fundamental engineering underpinning the car and the chassis/suspension design (in an old school way) looks right to me too."
I surmised the reliability issues couldn't be related to the expensive to fix drive train bits, and I was right, I soon found out just as I suspected the issues were all in the wiring and general slapdash assembly of what is fundamentally a good design using strong well proven mechanicals sourced from well established sources.
Solve the easy and cheap to fix elements and you're left with something quite exceptional for the money, as long as you view it as a great alternative to a British 60's classic (which is what it is after all).
The problem is as soon as you sort out the issues with a standard TVR to make it what it always should have been in the first place (quite easy), its hard not to be drawn into improving it further, and that as many of us know is where the fun really starts
Thanks for the replies!
In an effort to cure what I suspected was a noisy first motion shaft bearing on my 28K Chimaera I have actually had the box "rebuilt" twice now, both times by well respected specialists. It is the later box with the S10 tailshaft.
Apart from the slight noise the box worked perfectly before and I now wish I had left well alone! On the first occasion it came back noisier than before with a difficult gear change and after the second attempt where a new synchro was fitted, the change is improved but the noise is still there when idling. I have sat in other cars and without exception they are quieter than mine, even after the "rebuild". Apparently a rebuild only consists of the nose and tail bearings and oil seals....
Am I expecting too much? My credit card has melted and I still have what I consider to be a noisy box, I don't know what to do!
Chris.
In an effort to cure what I suspected was a noisy first motion shaft bearing on my 28K Chimaera I have actually had the box "rebuilt" twice now, both times by well respected specialists. It is the later box with the S10 tailshaft.
Apart from the slight noise the box worked perfectly before and I now wish I had left well alone! On the first occasion it came back noisier than before with a difficult gear change and after the second attempt where a new synchro was fitted, the change is improved but the noise is still there when idling. I have sat in other cars and without exception they are quieter than mine, even after the "rebuild". Apparently a rebuild only consists of the nose and tail bearings and oil seals....
Am I expecting too much? My credit card has melted and I still have what I consider to be a noisy box, I don't know what to do!
Chris.
s3c chris said:
Thanks for the replies!
In an effort to cure what I suspected was a noisy first motion shaft bearing on my 28K Chimaera I have actually had the box "rebuilt" twice now, both times by well respected specialists. It is the later box with the S10 tailshaft.
Apart from the slight noise the box worked perfectly before and I now wish I had left well alone! On the first occasion it came back noisier than before with a difficult gear change and after the second attempt where a new synchro was fitted, the change is improved but the noise is still there when idling. I have sat in other cars and without exception they are quieter than mine, even after the "rebuild". Apparently a rebuild only consists of the nose and tail bearings and oil seals....
Am I expecting too much? My credit card has melted and I still have what I consider to be a noisy box, I don't know what to do!
Chris.
Your not happy take it back they are not supposed to be noisy ... fact In an effort to cure what I suspected was a noisy first motion shaft bearing on my 28K Chimaera I have actually had the box "rebuilt" twice now, both times by well respected specialists. It is the later box with the S10 tailshaft.
Apart from the slight noise the box worked perfectly before and I now wish I had left well alone! On the first occasion it came back noisier than before with a difficult gear change and after the second attempt where a new synchro was fitted, the change is improved but the noise is still there when idling. I have sat in other cars and without exception they are quieter than mine, even after the "rebuild". Apparently a rebuild only consists of the nose and tail bearings and oil seals....
Am I expecting too much? My credit card has melted and I still have what I consider to be a noisy box, I don't know what to do!
Chris.
Sardonicus said:
s3c chris said:
Thanks for the replies!
In an effort to cure what I suspected was a noisy first motion shaft bearing on my 28K Chimaera I have actually had the box "rebuilt" twice now, both times by well respected specialists. It is the later box with the S10 tailshaft.
Apart from the slight noise the box worked perfectly before and I now wish I had left well alone! On the first occasion it came back noisier than before with a difficult gear change and after the second attempt where a new synchro was fitted, the change is improved but the noise is still there when idling. I have sat in other cars and without exception they are quieter than mine, even after the "rebuild". Apparently a rebuild only consists of the nose and tail bearings and oil seals....
Am I expecting too much? My credit card has melted and I still have what I consider to be a noisy box, I don't know what to do!
Chris.
Your not happy take it back they are not supposed to be noisy ... fact In an effort to cure what I suspected was a noisy first motion shaft bearing on my 28K Chimaera I have actually had the box "rebuilt" twice now, both times by well respected specialists. It is the later box with the S10 tailshaft.
Apart from the slight noise the box worked perfectly before and I now wish I had left well alone! On the first occasion it came back noisier than before with a difficult gear change and after the second attempt where a new synchro was fitted, the change is improved but the noise is still there when idling. I have sat in other cars and without exception they are quieter than mine, even after the "rebuild". Apparently a rebuild only consists of the nose and tail bearings and oil seals....
Am I expecting too much? My credit card has melted and I still have what I consider to be a noisy box, I don't know what to do!
Chris.
I just thought I'd take the opportunity while there were a few people with gearbox knowledge about.
Feel free to tell me to hiss of and start my own thread if you want.
Hi.
That noise sounds very familiar! Mine is like that even after two rebuilds! There is also a noise from the gearbox when the car is idling, press the clutch in and it disappears.
I've spent a fortune so far and the noise is still there so I would be careful who does the rebuild for you.
Been there and done that....
Regards Chris.
That noise sounds very familiar! Mine is like that even after two rebuilds! There is also a noise from the gearbox when the car is idling, press the clutch in and it disappears.
I've spent a fortune so far and the noise is still there so I would be careful who does the rebuild for you.
Been there and done that....
Regards Chris.
s3c chris said:
Hi.
That noise sounds very familiar! Mine is like that even after two rebuilds! There is also a noise from the gearbox when the car is idling, press the clutch in and it disappears.
I've spent a fortune so far and the noise is still there so I would be careful who does the rebuild for you.
Been there and done that....
Regards Chris.
then I believe its the pressure bearing thats worn, or how you call that in English.That noise sounds very familiar! Mine is like that even after two rebuilds! There is also a noise from the gearbox when the car is idling, press the clutch in and it disappears.
I've spent a fortune so far and the noise is still there so I would be careful who does the rebuild for you.
Been there and done that....
Regards Chris.
phazed said:
GTRene said:
then I believe its the pressure bearing thats worn, or how you call that in English.
Thrust release bearing.
my understanding was, when not under load, they could make a noise when worn en then when you press the clutch pedal the noise goes away.
but when his car has a new clutch and thrust bearing it would be a bit strange indeed if the noise comes from those parts, but...
Two slightly different views of how my S-10 tail housing conversion project looks from the drivers seat.
If you look closely you can see the stick ended up angled very sight to the right of vertical, we are talking millimetres here so in practice the new position took me less than a minute of driving to adjust to.
It actually now feels more natural and ergonomically right than the original vertical position, the knob is a slightly bigger sphere which is nicer in the hand. Its turned from solid 303 stainless steel and weighs a hefty 530 grams, which makes it 3 times heavier than the original TVR aluminium one.
If you look closely you can see the stick ended up angled very sight to the right of vertical, we are talking millimetres here so in practice the new position took me less than a minute of driving to adjust to.
It actually now feels more natural and ergonomically right than the original vertical position, the knob is a slightly bigger sphere which is nicer in the hand. Its turned from solid 303 stainless steel and weighs a hefty 530 grams, which makes it 3 times heavier than the original TVR aluminium one.
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