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[ChimpOnGas]

MPoxon said:

Dave - another very useful thread, thank you very much. I like your thinking of getting the best out of what we have without spending a fortune and keeping originality. What clutch are you going for? feel free to point me in the direction of a thread if there is one.

The AP clutch from TVR Power seems like the way to go,it's proven to take big power yet remains nice and light.

But Lloyd Specialist Developments have their own solution and stand by it. I've only had good products and services from LSD so while I was a bit cautious to step away from the proven AP unit, after a long chat I accepted their proposed clutch.

Apparently it has a lovely light action and the Lloyd team have at least one Supercharged Chimaera customer running it without issue. So seeing as they will be supplying and fitting it and that they always stand by their parts and labor, I've chosen to go with their recommended clutch.

I will put my trust in Lloyd Specialist Developments again, simply because they have not let me down yet.

That's good enough for me

[SILICONEKID345HP]

ChimpOnGas said:

The AP clutch from TVR Power seems like the way to go,it's proven to take big power yet remains nice and light.

But Lloyd Specialist Developments have their own solution and stand by it. I've only had good products and services from LSD so while I was a bit cautious to step away from the proven AP unit, after a long chat I accepted their proposed clutch.

Apparently it has a lovely light action and the Lloyd team have at least one Supercharged Chimaera customer running it without issue. So seeing as they will be supplying and fitting it and that they always stand by their parts and labor, I've chosen to go with their recommended clutch.

I will put my trust in Lloyd Specialist Developments again, simply because they have not let me down yet.

That's good enough for me

I have the AP clutch ,one up from what power sell ..My legs feels like its going to drop off in heavy traffic .

Why can`t something be done with the hydraulics ?

[ChimpOnGas]

SILICONEKID345HP said:

I have the AP clutch ,one up from what power sell ..My legs feels like its going to drop off in heavy traffic .

Why can`t something be done with the hydraulics ?

Because hydraulic advantage is much the same as gearing.

IE, you never get something for nothing (travel vs weight).

Two options to solve the issue once & for all...

1. Fit a twin plate clutch like those offered by McLoed or Centerforce

2. Fit a clutch servo as Anthony has

You can also look to alter the pedal design & upper pivot to get some more leverage but this will only help to a certain degree.

I've simply gone with the Lloyd team's supercharged Chimaera tried & tested clutch recipe which apparently is also nice & light, I will keep everyone updated on it's weight and feel when it's fitted in December.

And after that I'll be monitoring it's longevity & durability over many thousands of happy & cheap to fuel 'Gas Bag' miles.

Dave

[450Nick]

SILICONEKID345HP said:

I have the AP clutch ,one up from what power sell ..My legs feels like its going to drop off in heavy traffic .

Why can`t something be done with the hydraulics ?

Sounds like you skipped leg day?? I've never noticed the AP clutch be hard work in traffic.. You can as has been mentioned change this by changing the gearing of the system by altering the master or slave bore size or the pedal pivot point if you want to...

[Sardonicus]

All the OE clutches are AP though Daz even the 4.0 if your referring to the 500 assy well I think its just right and good for 330+ it did for Peter and his various 4.6/5.0's builds before the 5.5 came along its never going to be Honda Jazz light but then ........ now the Helix .........

[SILICONEKID345HP]

Sardonicus said:

All the OE clutches are AP though Daz even the 4.0 if your referring to the 500 assy well I think its just right and good for 330+ it did for Peter and his various 4.6/5.0's builds before the 5.5 came along its never going to be Honda Jazz light but then ........ now the Helix .........

The one Power sells would not last long in my car so I went for this .

'AP Racing Organic Clutch Kit

Pressure Plate/Cover Plate: CP2394-14

Friction Plate: CP2346-4

[Discopotatoes]

RST Mclead every time

[BoostedChim]

Another tip for anyone doing this, I cut the bottom off my S10 tail. It sticks out lower than the main box case and looked like it would probably get damaged on speed bumps easily. Heres a photo of how it sits with exhaust.

[ChimpOnGas]

BoostedChim said:

Another tip for anyone doing this, I cut the bottom off my S10 tail. It sticks out lower than the main box case and looked like it would probably get damaged on speed bumps easily. Heres a photo of how it sits with exhaust.

Thanks for that Andy

[ChimpOnGas]

OK so my S-10 Housing turned up today



It's not brand new as advertised but it is in perfect condition from what I can see and came with a new end seal which is nice

Unlike the seller's Ebay listing photo it also has the electric speedo pickup still in place, so I needn't have bought the expensive fancy schmancy plug in the end

I'm happy to see the parts for this project arriving, I still have six weeks before the car goes to Lloyds for the lighter clutch, S-10 mods and my new 19lbs steel flywheel... so I'm well ahead of schedule.

[BoostedChim]

It looks likes it missing it breather. Mine came with one but it was split, its a hollow rubber mushroom that pushes into the shifter box. I haven't managed to find them for sale, I would try John Reid and see if he has any spares otherwise it'll slowly leak oil.

[ChimpOnGas]

BoostedChim said:

It looks likes it missing it breather. Mine came with one but it was split, its a hollow rubber mushroom that pushes into the shifter box. I haven't managed to find them for sale, I would try John Reid and see if he has any spares otherwise it'll slowly leak oil.

Good spot there Andy, Grrrr more stuff to buy

[Sardonicus]

Just tap the hole and screw in a barbed fitting fit a hose then you can vent it to where you want I will give you a proper solution when mine arrives

[ChimpOnGas]

Sardonicus said:

Just tap the hole and screw in a barbed fitting fit a hose then you can vent it to where you want I will give you a proper solution when mine arrives

Thanks Simon, I agree, a simple breather solution is not beyond the whit of man

That rubber button vent in Andy's photo looks like something I've seen on Jap stuff before (Mitsubishi, Hyundai ect).

Using a right angle fitting to raise the breather point above the point of splash would make sense to me, a quick look at the hole says a ⅛" BSP brass fitting might work?

Something like this:



http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-8-Male-Bsp-X-6-mm-Elbo...

All I need is a ⅛" BSP tap

My S10 tail housing came with a nice corrosion protective mist coating of ATF, so it's possible the breather bung had been missing a while

[Sardonicus]

Thats the kind or thing or these push fittings have proved reliable so far these are only M6 thread and 4mm pipe though but are available in bigger sizes and your correct the Jap stuff use those push on rubber breathers they always fell of when refitting Honda boxes easily rectified push on's

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Edited by Sardonicus on Thursday 15th October 13:09

[ChimpOnGas]

Sardonicus said:

Thats the kind or thing or these push fittings have proved reliable so far these are only M6 thread and 4mm pipe though but are available in bigger sizes and your correct the Jap stuff use those push on rubber breathers they always fell of when refitting Honda boxes easily rectified push on's

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Edited by Sardonicus on Thursday 15th October 13:09

I can confirm it's a 10mm hole we're dealing with here Simon.

Let us know what you can come up with, perhaps you can think of something fitted with a 10mm rubber mushroom push fit hose fitting (cam cover breather or similar)??

[Sardonicus]

ChimpOnGas said:

I can confirm it's a 10mm hole we're dealing with here Simon.

Let us know what you can come up with, perhaps you can think of something fitted with a 10mm rubber mushroom push fit hose fitting (cam cover breather or similar)??

Guess what size an 80's auto Honda gearbox vent bung is? or if your really fussy

Edited by Sardonicus on Thursday 15th October 13:57

[ChimpOnGas]

Sardonicus said:

uess what size an 80's auto Honda gearbox vent bung is? or if your really fussy

Edited by Sardonicus on Thursday 15th October 13:57

Nice, looks good, but doesn't it need to be facing north?

[Badgerchim]

Not sure if this helps or where where you can get one from but mine came with what looks like a hammer in vent cap



Whilst the selector fork cover is off I am taking the opportunity to change the nylon fork pads to brass.

Dave are lloyds fabricating your new tailshaft bracket? I have seen a few variations ranging from adapted/added to brackets to whole new bracket. Any pointers on best way of doing it with the 97 chassis gearbox brackets.

Ta Tim

[ChimpOnGas]

Badgerchim said:

Not sure if this helps or where where you can get one from but mine came with what looks like a hammer in vent cap



Whilst the selector fork cover is off I am taking the opportunity to change the nylon fork pads to brass.

Dave are lloyds fabricating your new tailshaft bracket? I have seen a few variations ranging from adapted/added to brackets to whole new bracket. Any pointers on best way of doing it with the 97 chassis gearbox brackets.

Ta Tim

Hi Tim,

Yes I'll leave the bracket fabrication work to the Lloyd boys, they took on a very clever marine fabricator a while back, he made my latest LPG injector brackets and asked me what I thought of them at the Nial Garner day.

I said... "Well I can see the injectors, but actually I can't see the brackets"

"Yes" he said... "That's the point, I went for the invisible bracket look"

To be honest I'm still trying to work out how he did it, the job is sooo neat I can only think he was just showing off

Once he's perfected the S-10 bracket I expect the Lloyd team will keep a pattern for future conversions.

The fork pad renewal was something I was looking at too as it seems like a good idea, but where do you stop?

TBH I thought the fork pads were brass already

If you haven't gone for it already the little brass shifter cup gets well reviewed too.



While I really don't want to turn this S-10 tail housing mod into an open cheque book project there are certain additional improvements that become a no brainer to fit with the box out.

Perhaps these brass fork pads are just such a thing

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