Concourse chims
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ChilliWhizz said:
Have you blokes seen the Griff SE that Fernies have up for sale? 34K miles, 2001 MY, and the asking price is only 50K (it is mint mind... and modified, I can't see an AFM)
Yep that's right £50,000 for a Griff..... I think it's about time we had a major think about how much our beloved Chims should be worth....
B&Q are doing a good deal on wheelbarrows Yep that's right £50,000 for a Griff..... I think it's about time we had a major think about how much our beloved Chims should be worth....
I put up a thread about it when i spotted it in the classifieds this morning.I've never been to their showroom but i would imagine their cars must be top class variations. Their doing their best to push up Chimaera values with 400's having 17-18k tickets on them.
And they seem to sell them.
I noticed recently one Chimaera they had at Fernhurst for about £12k (low for them) because it was like mine: Facelift, Silver, 80k + miles. No mention of warranty at the time either although as a dealer, they have to allow a short warranty (a whole other can of worms discussed at length on other forums about sale of goods act / 28 days / 3 mths min etc.)
Their warranties are often 24 month on their top priced cars which is probably worth the extra money, IF it's a good one. Most aftermarket ones are rubbish. Something has to basically snap, all wear & tear items exempt of course. They recently sold a Cerbera for only £10,500 which is cheap for any dealer, let alone Fernhurst :
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/t...
Their warranties are often 24 month on their top priced cars which is probably worth the extra money, IF it's a good one. Most aftermarket ones are rubbish. Something has to basically snap, all wear & tear items exempt of course. They recently sold a Cerbera for only £10,500 which is cheap for any dealer, let alone Fernhurst :
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/t...
Most after market warranties are offered by warranty companies and have more 'opt out' clauses than a politician. I do believe that Fernhurst offer their own warranty on their cars and the ones with the two year warranty are thoroughly prepared.
You can purchase a car without a warranty, but it must be sold as spares or repairs.
You can purchase a car without a warranty, but it must be sold as spares or repairs.
ads said:
Why are the Chim's so under valued compared to other classic low volume sports cars?
1. Large numbers (relatively) produced so not got the rareity value of other models2. Bought by (some) people who don't maintain them/let the chassis rot then have to sell 'cheap'
3. Owners (historically) tend to talk the values down, can be seen quite often on the forum
4. Often seen as the 'cheap' alternative to the Griff, (see also point 1 above) which tends to have a knock on effect on perceived value
5. Used to be lots of 'tatty' ones about(see also point 2 above) going cheap so buyers expect them all to be cheap - you don't see many (if any) 'tatty' Griffs about....
6. Without the 'iconic' status it's seen as a fibre class car built in a shed with a Rover engine (like a lot of kit cars) and a lot of bits off other motors that can be picked up for peanuts from any breakers yard..
I could go on....
ChilliWhizz said:
1. Large numbers (relatively) produced so not got the rareity value of other models
2. Bought by (some) people who don't maintain them/let the chassis rot then have to sell 'cheap'
3. Owners (historically) tend to talk the values down, can be seen quite often on the forum
4. Often seen as the 'cheap' alternative to the Griff, (see also point 1 above) which tends to have a knock on effect on perceived value
5. Used to be lots of 'tatty' ones about(see also point 2 above) going cheap so buyers expect them all to be cheap - you don't see many (if any) 'tatty' Griffs about....
6. Without the 'iconic' status it's seen as a fibre class car built in a shed with a Rover engine (like a lot of kit cars) and a lot of bits off other motors that can be picked up for peanuts from any breakers yard..
I could go on....
Agreed - the Chimaera is a victim of its own success. 2. Bought by (some) people who don't maintain them/let the chassis rot then have to sell 'cheap'
3. Owners (historically) tend to talk the values down, can be seen quite often on the forum
4. Often seen as the 'cheap' alternative to the Griff, (see also point 1 above) which tends to have a knock on effect on perceived value
5. Used to be lots of 'tatty' ones about(see also point 2 above) going cheap so buyers expect them all to be cheap - you don't see many (if any) 'tatty' Griffs about....
6. Without the 'iconic' status it's seen as a fibre class car built in a shed with a Rover engine (like a lot of kit cars) and a lot of bits off other motors that can be picked up for peanuts from any breakers yard..
I could go on....
Anyone thinking of restoring a Chimaera or a Griffith will likely pick the latter as, apart from the initial purchase cost, the restoration costs are broadly similar, but resulting value much higher.
We need pricing for good condition 'original' Chimaeras to continue to rise as this will encourage owners to invest more in keeping their cars up to scratch.
We all know they're great cars and more than a match for Griffs
Trevor450 said:
I've got an agreed value at £20k after refurbishment (including chassis and engine rebuilds). It owes me £25k really and a dealer may try it at that retail but I think £20k is fair but I will be keeping an eye on values.
An agreed value from the insurance company as nothing to do with how much you can sell it for .I could insure mine for 50k if I wanted to pay the premium .
SILICONEKID345HP said:
Trevor450 said:
I've got an agreed value at £20k after refurbishment (including chassis and engine rebuilds). It owes me £25k really and a dealer may try it at that retail but I think £20k is fair but I will be keeping an eye on values.
An agreed value from the insurance company as nothing to do with how much you can sell it for .I could insure mine for 50k if I wanted to pay the premium .
JimTC said:
Trevor450 said:
I've got an agreed value at £20k after refurbishment (including chassis and engine rebuilds). It owes me £25k really and a dealer may try it at that retail but I think £20k is fair but I will be keeping an eye on values.
I presume from your forum name that it's a 450?
Trevor450 said:
JimTC said:
Trevor450 said:
I've got an agreed value at £20k after refurbishment (including chassis and engine rebuilds). It owes me £25k really and a dealer may try it at that retail but I think £20k is fair but I will be keeping an eye on values.
I presume from your forum name that it's a 450?
ChimpOnGas said:
Because to many the aesthetics of a Wedge remain an acquired taste.
And the Chim/Griff not only put pay those challenging looks but solved many of the engineering weaknesses of earlier TVRs.
What about the front bodge ball joint on the Chimaera And the Chim/Griff not only put pay those challenging looks but solved many of the engineering weaknesses of earlier TVRs.
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