Tyre age

[anonymous-user]

One of the main problems is that they also deteriorate on the inside, so you simply don't know what state they are in till you take them off. Think of an old rubber band and once dry how easy they break. Ok, it takes quite a while till you find bits of rubber inside that have peeled away, but still, several articles on the web suggest that 5-6 years is the safe limit.

[QBee]

I have a solution for getting full value from the tread on your next tyres, Chilli.



Try driving it more than once a month! I have worn out my current set of tyres in 18 months.

[phazed]

Just a little heads up Richard.

I just changed my road wheels to track wheels shod with Triple 8s and went for a spin.

I always thought the Triple 8s were good on the road but the R1rs are much better.

Not such a hard ride, grippier when cold and they don't disgrace themselves on the track.

You won't be disappointed if you choose the R1Rs.

[FlyingGriffith]

Not all tires are equal.... My car still has its 1995 bridgestones on the front and they are a world apart from the 4 year old toyo t1r's om the rear... The toyos are shocking... cheap and cheerful (never again - dont recomend), They have gone hard and are cracking. (bridgstones still look and work great). My car lives in a dark garage. just bought a set of used SO2's to replace them as there is no current tyre that does the same job. after that I will go 888.

[phazed]

After a TD today let me remind you that Triple 8s are awesome but need a bit of heat to work.

Try the R1Rs, really faultless on the road.

[ChilliWhizz]

phazed said:

After a TD today let me remind you that Triple 8s are awesome but need a bit of heat to work.

Try the R1Rs, really faultless on the road.

Peter, current T1R's are 225/45/16 on the front and 245/45/16 on the rear, according to the Toyo website they do R1R's in the 225 section width but not in the 245....

Back to the drawing board

[ChilliWhizz]

roseytvr said:

Richard

Your not trying hard enough mate! My rears have lasted less than half of that. bTW I have some cheap track day wheels and r888s in those sizes if you want them - pm me for more info
Cheers
Ian

Muchly appreciated Ian.... cheapest route for now would be to just put new T1R's on the back, and then a separate set of wheels and triple 8's for the track days that I never seem to go to

Need to give it some more thought mate... I'll pm you when I know what I'm doing (I usually don't)

Edited by ChilliWhizz on Tuesday 16th June 11:35

Edited by ChilliWhizz on Tuesday 16th June 11:37

[phazed]

Can you squeeze a 255 on?

[ChilliWhizz]

phazed said:

Can you squeeze a 255 on?

Didn't think they did those in a 16 either?

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Following on from this, My tyres are around 10 years old. Haven't done many miles due to other commitments.
The car has been garaged the whole time and the tyres look fine, no cracks and feel soft. (Dunlop SP9000's).

I'm in two minds weather to change them or not as it seems such a waste. They probably still have at least 5mm tread left. Also i'm probably not going to do that many miles this year either. The past few years I have probably averaged 1k miles at the most. Prior years were 2-3k. Next year I am hoping to use it more as I will have more free time now the house is finished.

What do you guys think?

[m4tti]

I've just this second ordered a full set of R1R's for my Tuscan. There's nothing wrong with the tyres on it apart from the fact they're approaching 5 years old.

At the end of the day for the sake of 500 odd quid is it worth taking a chance. What's you car worth? It's not always about ultimate cornering performance either, tyres operating within their working life will also demonstrate more efficient stopping distances under braking.

[FlipFlopGriff]

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Following on from this, My tyres are around 10 years old. Haven't done many miles due to other commitments.
The car has been garaged the whole time and the tyres look fine, no cracks and feel soft. (Dunlop SP9000's).

I'm in two minds weather to change them or not as it seems such a waste. They probably still have at least 5mm tread left. Also i'm probably not going to do that many miles this year either. The past few years I have probably averaged 1k miles at the most. Prior years were 2-3k. Next year I am hoping to use it more as I will have more free time now the house is finished.

What do you guys think?

My Dunlops were 2 years younger when I changed them 12 months ago. Loads of tread but skated on the surface when pushed. Also kept in a dark garage most of the time.
FFG

[MisterT]

FlipFlopGriff said:

My Dunlops were 2 years younger when I changed them 12 months ago. Loads of tread but skated on the surface when pushed. Also kept in a dark garage most of the time.
FFG

Similar experience here, SP9000 fitted in '06, about 1/2 worn and now have very abrupt breakaway when pushing (nearly caught me by surprise a couple of times last year), when they were new they were very good but no longer available. I will be changing tyres before I bring the car out of hibernation but car is still SORNed this year due to knee injury and I cant press the clutch!

As a matter of interest ROSPA recommend tyres to be changed at 10 years but I think for the kind of use our cars are put to the tyres will have gone off in terms of grip and flexibility before this

[skiver]

For the record, insurers are aware that old tyres lose grip even with lots of tread left, and may even contribute to accidents,but as long as the car has an MOT, old hard slippery tyres aren't an issue...yet!

[FlipFlopGriff]

MisterT said:

Similar experience here, SP9000 fitted in '06, about 1/2 worn and now have very abrupt breakaway when pushing (nearly caught me by surprise a couple of times last year), when they were new they were very good but no longer available. I will be changing tyres before I bring the car out of hibernation but car is still SORNed this year due to knee injury and I cant press the clutch!

As a matter of interest ROSPA recommend tyres to be changed at 10 years but I think for the kind of use our cars are put to the tyres will have gone off in terms of grip and flexibility before this

I had a few sphincter clenching moments at around 70mph so decided that was that. R1R's now - wear fast and great grip so hopefully I get to use most of the tread this time.
I agree that you can maybe go to 10 years but some still have original tyres at over 20 years on. I certainly wouldn't and I wont let a tyre get below about 3mm tread now as the braking distance at less than 3mm increases rapidly.
FFG

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Thanks guys as I thought.
I think I might go for the Bridgestone RE002's as then they are the correct speed rating. anyone used them?

[QBee]

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

[ChilliWhizz]

FlipFlopGriff said:

I had a few sphincter clenching moments at around 70mph so decided that was that. R1R's now - wear fast and great grip so hopefully I get to use most of the tread this time.
I agree that you can maybe go to 10 years but some still have original tyres at over 20 years on. I certainly wouldn't and I wont let a tyre get below about 3mm tread now as the braking distance at less than 3mm increases rapidly.
FFG

FFG, what wheel sizes/tyre sizes do have? I'm seriously thinking of going R1R's, according to the Toyo website they do 225/45/16's (which I have on the front) but they don't do 245/45/16's (which I have on the rear).... I'm guessing you've either got 17" rims on the rear or you've gone for 225/45's on 16" rears (significant reduction in amount of rubber on the road and reduced rolling radius?)

Thanks in advance,

Chilli

[QBee]

Don't forget that while we try to keep the rear tyres bigger, you can always run the same tyre size all around and raise the rear ride height 20-25mm to get the rake. That's what Mat does on his race car.

[ChilliWhizz]

Appreciate that Anthony, and if it was only AR it'd be OK, but going from 245 down to 225 is getting on for a 10% reduction in rubber on the road... I'd be looking for more not less..