Ecu upgrade, what to expect ?

Ecu upgrade, what to expect ?

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ClassiChimi

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12,424 posts

149 months

Tuesday 21st July 2015
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N7GTX said:
Mine still burbles and I am told it is quite loud. I live at number 1 and the builders are working on number 15. When I start up they all come out.

And I have amended the last line for you. typelaugh
hehe

That's a low down attempt to get me to man up,,, nah
I'll just be a bit gay with my N/A little 300hp biggrin

The point about a strong engine is so true,,,
I don't want to blow the car up within a couple of years,

I barely use the power the car possesses on the roads anyway so FI seems silly for just a few track days a year!
I'm not into drag races with boy racers,,,,, if I had FI I'd be racing everything yikes

As I said earlier with the new Ecu I can go to FI in the future
Dom has a rather large list of things to do as it is!

Tyre Tread

10,534 posts

216 months

Tuesday 21st July 2015
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N7GTX said:
I considered doing the conversion myself (tight git) but it isn't that simple. Cutting the chassis rail and making a new part would have meant using an engineering place for me. The wiring and other fittings probably not too bad. Cutting large holes in the inner wings might put some off the DIY route.
So heart ruled head and I let Dom do it. Chinese parts? Eeek!!! Don't let Dom hear you say that.....
Word of caution. If you do decide to go this way, you really have to ensure the engine is in a good state as any part worn bearings are going to surrender in short time. And no wear on the cam either...

Picture 3 shows the replacement part for the chassis rail with the cut out for the diddly little turbo.











So, ClassiChimi, what are you waiting for? smokin

Edited by N7GTX on Tuesday 21st July 10:13
Thanks Iain.

So, was it worth it?

domV8

1,375 posts

181 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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...and what have you done with regards to the cat requirement for MOT..?

Thanks,

Dom

N7GTX

7,865 posts

143 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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Tyre Tread said:
Thanks Iain.

So, was it worth it?
Ha, still not had the map done. Been unable to get it in to Powers for the final mapping so as yet, still no boost. Hoping to get this finished in August. Once done, I will update.

N7GTX

7,865 posts

143 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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domV8 said:
...and what have you done with regards to the cat requirement for MOT..?

Thanks,

Dom
The lambda sensors have been moved lower down - can't see them in the pics. Turbos normally run a lot cleaner so hopefully there wont be a problem come MOT time as the main cat is still present. As it has not been fully mapped, I haven't taken it to the MOT place to see what the readings are.

Incidentally the MOT would not fail if a cat was missing so long as the emissions passed. So fingers crossed.

MPoxon

5,329 posts

173 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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ClassiChimi said:
That's a very nice job,
I like the N/A induction roar,,, I'm worried I wouldn't like the sound of the car anymore,,

I'm standing firm on this one,, I can always go back to it so I'm happy with what I'm doing to my car smile
Stand firm Alun, I am with you on FI vs NA. I have been in some really quick FI cars and been very impressed but for me a TVR Chim / Griff is all about an NA engine, I love the induction and exhaust note you get with NA. If I was to upgrade it would be for the ITB setup Ian Rose has on his Griff which I understand from Dom will work with the MBE ECU.

ClassiChimi

Original Poster:

12,424 posts

149 months

Friday 24th July 2015
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I've been busy with a new bike so a bit slow to reply,,,, wink

There's now't wrong with a turbo or charger or Nos but it does smooth the engine note somewhat,

It's a bit like motorbikes I've been looking at,, brilliant, fast, so after a few years of looking I go and buy a slow( by modern standards) Triumph Thruxton,,,

It's not just about speed,,,,,

Saying that my new bike has been re jetted and dyno'd and Pee Shooter exhausts etcetc,

As this thread has gone miles off topic and I'm the worst culptet sometimes,,,
And my Ecu installation will be sometime before I can update progress

Here's a sneak at the bike,,, I'm really into retro but with a bit of anger thrown in

Lynx Avon Fairing
Norman Hyde, everything else
19 tooth front sprocket
Never seen rain. ?

It sounds like a Norton and rather loud, pops and bangs to die for smile


ClassiChimi

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12,424 posts

149 months

Friday 24th July 2015
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I adore the rev counter being up front and taking prominence before the speedo,
To many things to list here but ignition key relocation etc bar ends etc,

Iconic engine 360' parallel twin,, has a Hyde Alloy bell mouth smile

ClassiChimi

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12,424 posts

149 months

Friday 24th July 2015
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Naff iPhone pics hopefully this shows the engine a bit better,,,,

I hasten to add,,,, I've been allover the bike since these pics were taken, if it looks clean now,,,,

Every mm and bolt had been cleaned since hehe



Errr including rubbing down those cylinder head fins, smile
Enough already...

Edited by ClassiChimi on Friday 24th July 11:24

Richard 858

1,882 posts

135 months

Friday 24th July 2015
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Very, very nice Alun. If you ever make it over to mine one day I'll take you round to my neighbour's garage, 2 Triumphs & a Norton, all 1960's, all nut & bolt restored by him with genuine parts, even down to new old stock light bulbs !

Any news on progress with your Chim ? Mine goes in on Monday.

MPoxon

5,329 posts

173 months

Friday 24th July 2015
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I know nothing about bikes but that looks stunning. When was it built?

QBee

20,980 posts

144 months

Friday 24th July 2015
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MPoxon said:
I know nothing about bikes but that looks stunning. When was it built?
About the same year as Alun at a guess whistle

ClassiChimi

Original Poster:

12,424 posts

149 months

Saturday 25th July 2015
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hehe
Richard, I've looked at loads of old stuff but can't be arsed with all the fiddling but it was a Norton Commando that inspired my love of bikes as a kid,,, early 70's and a bloke re built one near me,,

Matt, it was built in 2009,,,, not quite the year I was born but then I do have the mental age of a 6 year old laugh

As some people might know,, I'm into polishing stuff,,,it's sort of a hobby,,

I have a few mates who all raced bikes as kids and were all getting back on bikes!!!!
I've said no for about 20 years but this bike is a bit special, I don't need to be on a super fast bike,

I don't like riding in the rain either so this is just the thing for sunny rides and cups of tea at cafe's.
It's a life style thing maybe,,

I like the lazy handling etc, it's a 900cc so not exactly slow,,

It reminds me of all the old race bikes I grew up around,

It'll do smile




phazed

21,844 posts

204 months

Saturday 25th July 2015
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That looks like a great bike Alun.


ClassiChimi

Original Poster:

12,424 posts

149 months

Saturday 25th July 2015
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Morning Peter,,, it's hard to find a damn mark on it! Increasable, I've had the seat and panels off it, spotless.
It's never been wet as far as I can tell,,

It's so loud too,,, it's got the perfect sound track,
I've been looking at these Thruxton's for a few years and they don't quite do it for me,,,
But this has been done to a very high standard and totally looked and goes the part,

I've got a mad crash hat too smile retro leather Jacket and boots that look more like work boots hehe

I've gone full circle and back to my roots.

Anyway ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
The ecu installation
That's going to be weeks away, I never booked mine in, just dropped it off so it will be done when they have time.
Long list of things for them to do so Richard yours will probably be done before Mine.



phazed

21,844 posts

204 months

Saturday 25th July 2015
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The good thing about these later bikes is that it gives you the looks and nostalgia but with reliability as well.

I looked at a1960 Triumph 5TA trials bike this week.

Lovely engine, recently rebuilt but the rest was rubbish. Awful brakes, suspension and as heavy as a heifer!

Couple that with the gearchange on the other side and it was definitely a big no.

After years of riding jap and more modern European bikesit it it would be very hard to get used to the gearchange back on the British side.

Ah well, I will have a look for something more modern but classic.

Enjoying the riding and keep it upright big smile

ClassiChimi

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12,424 posts

149 months

Saturday 25th July 2015
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I look at this bike and can't help but think Tvr could have built great cars
This is everything old with everything important modern, feels brand new,5800 miles on the clock
I've not got a licence yet yikes but had a spin around our private lane wink
It felt proper old school, but the brakes nearly threw me over the bars,,, it evokes the bikes I learnt to ride,
It does feel heavy but I kinda like that too.

I've just checked,,, it's also got a 43 toothed rear cog, standard 41 so accelerates faster.

I think it feels quick but then I hav'nt ridden anything proper fast for years.

I've already looked at big bore kits, bigger carbs, that can wait awhile, so I've got a stainless steel oil cooler mesh and a engine stone and Alley chain guard coming smile

A bike like this can go for years without much effort.

If I had my time again with Tvr I would have done this,,, buy one that someone else has lavished and pained over,,,
This bike I can just get on and go,,, awesome. smile





Ace helmet, iconic British engine, it's all going on hehe

It's about time I did the jungle behind the bike. smile

Edited by ClassiChimi on Saturday 25th July 09:47

QBee

20,980 posts

144 months

Saturday 25th July 2015
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ClassiChimi said:
I've not got a licence yet yikes
Send £145.50 to the BBC (Big Bikes Club) and they will send you a licence whistle

ClassiChimi

Original Poster:

12,424 posts

149 months

Saturday 25th July 2015
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I've got my CBT on Tuesday?
I've practiced the theory test and failed twice! Maybe this isn't such a good idea hehe

The thing is I have piles of drum kits that I've also collected over the years lying about doing nothing,,,
I can't quite give the drums up so I have a cool Roland electric kit I can bash about on but al my very nice drums are going up for sale,,, sad to loose them but it's time!

Drums and machines are one and the same thing, mechanical, need fettling and fine tuning to get the best out of them and they all make very loud noises. smile

phazed

21,844 posts

204 months

Saturday 25th July 2015
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ClassiChimi said:
I've got my CBT on Tuesday?
You're kidding!

That made me laugh out loud, sorry Alun. paperbag