Dies on initial start ups

Dies on initial start ups

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CHIMV8

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2,768 posts

221 months

Saturday 24th October 2015
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When she is first started she idles then fades to a stall.

No issues when actually driving,generally holds idle in traffic.

But when parked up and return,she idles and dies.

Dont understand,checked and cleaned stepper motor,and even tried another one but no joy.

Yesterday she stalled and then struggled to start on turnover,left for a short period then kicked up

Help pleasegrumpy

jojackson4

3,026 posts

137 months

Saturday 24th October 2015
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Have you got rover gauge

Colin RedGriff

2,527 posts

257 months

Saturday 24th October 2015
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Have you done any work on it before this problem started?

when you cleaned the stepper motor did you also clean the seat on the plenum?


QBee

20,955 posts

144 months

Saturday 24th October 2015
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If you know another Chim or Griff owner locally, try their stepper in your car first before looking at anything else.

jojackson4

3,026 posts

137 months

Saturday 24th October 2015
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He all ready has angel
But there's more to try
I have afm and rover gauge

CHIMV8

Original Poster:

2,768 posts

221 months

Monday 2nd November 2015
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The 'extract' from a document below has the issues i have at the moment

What Are the Symptoms of a Faulty Mass Air Flow Sensor?
The engine stalls soon after starting.
The engine drags or hesitates when idle or under load.
The engine hesitates and jerks during acceleration.
The engine hiccups.
The engine displays unusually lean or rich idling.

QBee

20,955 posts

144 months

Monday 2nd November 2015
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CHIMV8 said:
The 'extract' from a document below has the issues i have at the moment

What Are the Symptoms of a Faulty Mass Air Flow Sensor?
The engine stalls soon after starting.
The engine drags or hesitates when idle or under load.
The engine hesitates and jerks during acceleration.
The engine hiccups.
The engine displays unusually lean or rich idling.
Paul's spare AFM sounds like your next step.

CHIMV8

Original Poster:

2,768 posts

221 months

Monday 2nd November 2015
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QBee said:
CHIMV8 said:
The 'extract' from a document below has the issues i have at the moment

What Are the Symptoms of a Faulty Mass Air Flow Sensor?
The engine stalls soon after starting.
The engine drags or hesitates when idle or under load.
The engine hesitates and jerks during acceleration.
The engine hiccups.
The engine displays unusually lean or rich idling.
Paul's spare AFM sounds like your next step.
Agreed

CHIMV8

Original Poster:

2,768 posts

221 months

Friday 6th November 2015
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CHIMV8 said:
QBee said:
CHIMV8 said:
The 'extract' from a document below has the issues i have at the moment

What Are the Symptoms of a Faulty Mass Air Flow Sensor?
The engine stalls soon after starting.
The engine drags or hesitates when idle or under load.
The engine hesitates and jerks during acceleration.
The engine hiccups.
The engine displays unusually lean or rich idling.
Paul's spare AFM sounds like your next step.
Agreed
Will try alternative AFM's over the weekend, and see if that sorts the issue...fingers crossedcoffee

jojackson4

3,026 posts

137 months

Friday 6th November 2015
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Good luck
If you have no joy bring it over and we will plug it in and see what's happening

Ozstyle

392 posts

223 months

Sunday 8th November 2015
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Hi,
I had very similar starting/stalling at idle issue.
I checked and adjusted the base idle which cured my problem.
I removed the screw altogether surprised at the amount of black oily/carbon crud I cleaned out of the screw hole.
Ozstyle

CHIMV8

Original Poster:

2,768 posts

221 months

Monday 9th November 2015
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Ozstyle said:
Hi,
I had very similar starting/stalling at idle issue.
I checked and adjusted the base idle which cured my problem.
I removed the screw altogether surprised at the amount of black oily/carbon crud I cleaned out of the screw hole.
Ozstyle
Where will i find that?

QBee

20,955 posts

144 months

Monday 9th November 2015
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CHIMV8 said:
Ozstyle said:
Hi,
I had very similar starting/stalling at idle issue.
I checked and adjusted the base idle which cured my problem.
I removed the screw altogether surprised at the amount of black oily/carbon crud I cleaned out of the screw hole.
Ozstyle
Where will i find that?
On the throttle pot, where the butterfly is - the pointy bit of the plenum that connects to the air intake elbow hose thingy. From memory it on the front side of the tube, ie nearer the headlights as it were. Perhaps some kind Steve Heath Bible owner will post the pic of the relevant page? Mine is at home. I'm not.

CHIMV8

Original Poster:

2,768 posts

221 months

Monday 9th November 2015
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QBee said:
CHIMV8 said:
Ozstyle said:
Hi,
I had very similar starting/stalling at idle issue.
I checked and adjusted the base idle which cured my problem.
I removed the screw altogether surprised at the amount of black oily/carbon crud I cleaned out of the screw hole.
Ozstyle
Where will i find that?
On the throttle pot, where the butterfly is - the pointy bit of the plenum that connects to the air intake elbow hose thingy. From memory it on the front side of the tube, ie nearer the headlights as it were. Perhaps some kind Steve Heath Bible owner will post the pic of the relevant page? Mine is at home. I'm not.
thumbup

MPoxon

5,329 posts

173 months

Tuesday 10th November 2015
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Bear in mind you have had a full engine rebuild and a high lift cam fitted, you may need a remap of the ECU to get it running spot on.

When I changed the injectors, AFM and fuel reg on mine it required a remap - same issue as yours, wouldn't idle properly.

CHIMV8

Original Poster:

2,768 posts

221 months

Wednesday 11th November 2015
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MPoxon said:
Bear in mind you have had a full engine rebuild and a high lift cam fitted, you may need a remap of the ECU to get it running spot on.

When I changed the injectors, AFM and fuel reg on mine it required a remap - same issue as yours, wouldn't idle properly.
Still to try the spare AFM(work getting in the way as usual!!),but comments noted..

CHIMV8

Original Poster:

2,768 posts

221 months

Sunday 15th November 2015
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Changing the AFM doesnt seem to have solved anythingcurse

Was messing with plug lead connections on dizzy yesterday,dont know if coincidence but engine note changed and seemed to hold smooth idle,but tried that agin this morning and no joy.

Might just try and change the dizzy cap for the sake of it,with a new Lucas unit ans see what happens

CHIMV8

Original Poster:

2,768 posts

221 months

Sunday 15th November 2015
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Anyone know the Lucas dizzy part number as always get asked due to fact no car on record list to look up against

QBee

20,955 posts

144 months

Sunday 15th November 2015
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CHIMV8 said:
Anyone know the Lucas dizzy part number as always get asked due to fact no car on record list to look up against
You will find it on here.

http://www.chimaerapages.com/parts-list.html

jojackson4

3,026 posts

137 months

Monday 16th November 2015
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Come and plug it in to RG you may have a silly fault