B-b-ber BREMBOS!

B-b-ber BREMBOS!

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phazed

21,844 posts

205 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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Outer then work in.

ClassiChimi

12,424 posts

150 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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My logic was just kicking in and thinking the same, thanks Peter.

ChimpOnGas

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9,637 posts

180 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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ClassiChimi said:






lick....thumbup

ClassiChimi

12,424 posts

150 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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It's such a buzz ain't it Dave. hehe
So tapped my holes using M12 x 1.75 tap
And just test fitting.
As Dave points out I need 0.5 shim/washers to centre Caliper but couldn't get any local,, will order some from Daves recommendation.

It's all very straight forward once you get started and it's not a long job to actually do,, I'm taking ages over it as I like to stand and admire hehe I'm going to do the same on the O/S and test fit to just be sure it's sitting similar.

As can be seen I can get my 17" rims on easily enough but there's only about 4-5 mm between wheel spokes and Caliper so I will order some spacers and studs as I do want to widen the track very slightly.
Some more pics to enjoy.










Edited by ClassiChimi on Friday 1st April 18:12


Edited by ClassiChimi on Friday 1st April 18:14

TV8

3,122 posts

176 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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Brakes look good Alun.

Wishbones are not as shiny as under the bonnet and I bet that will change whilst you are waging for the spacers etc! cool

phazed

21,844 posts

205 months

ClassiChimi

12,424 posts

150 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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^^^^^ takes me back,,, smile
The salt this year has mullered the lot frown

So having fitted the O/S caliper too, it turns out I need 1 X 0.5mm shims for the n/s and 2 X 0.5 shims for the o/s to centre the Caliper, so almost from the kit I've had supplied by Oldphonebloke the Calipers fit within a couple of mm. Almost made to measure, I'm saying all this before I've got them working so I'll assume caution and get the spacing spot on first.

Tapping the hubs was easy, the correct drill size for the M12 X 1.75 tap is 10.2 mm,, drill slips through the original holes so no need to drill.
I just carefully tapped and kept things square on and found with a new tap it cut very easily using the usual technique,
I used an 8 mm socket on the end of the tap to aid turning, small amount of cutting oil and some nice threads cut. wink
I've opted for standard nuts to go on the back of the hub bolts and just use thread loc as I feel the heat may effect Nylocks.
I might re think that though!
What a div for not ordering the Chims,,

Sorry to bore people but kin ell these things are awesome. laugh




Edited by ClassiChimi on Saturday 2nd April 23:09

Andav469

958 posts

138 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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Far from boring us Alun, your enthusiasm and positive approach is infectious smile


ClassiChimi

12,424 posts

150 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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Cheers mate. It's always good to share smile
Here's me thinking its a test of engineering But with these brackets and yes all the bolts are correct by the way,, it's very enjoyable.

I've never upgraded brakes before, simple enough I know but like many I tend to think manufacturers test brakes to destruction so there probably rather good,,, then there's Tvr wink still the brakes are absolutely fine for 90% of application
But when you'll need them most,,,,,
Brakes as has been pointed out by Dave earlier in this thread are possibly the most important part of a cars make up,,,
I'm sure Wheeler knew what he was doing all along,, give em something fast with no brakes,,, until now I've got used to the power and handling but ever since day one it's like hit the throttle,,,,,that's exciting,, but then hit the old brakes,, it's like your trying to stop from twice the speed,,, st, fk, crap, phew! It's all kidology into making you think it's faster than it is,,, think is we're now actually making them real fast so the brakes are becoming a wrap spot.
20 years ago we would have been happy with them, speed humps, erratic driving, busy busy roads, if your putting miles on the car it's now a big part in making the Tvr experience what it always should be, fast, cool, safe.

if your car is for weekends and gentle blasts and cruises, the O/E brakes are fine and I kinda like them,
If you want what's considered to be close or if not the best brakes on your Tvr then Brembo E38 with 324MM Ford Focus RS discs won't be far wrong.
Thanks to Alexdaredevils and Chimpongas and all you others who pave the way for us to eat some ass on a track day.... laugh


ClassiChimi

12,424 posts

150 months

Saturday 2nd April 2016
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TV8 said:
Brakes look good Alun.

Wishbones are not as shiny as under the bonnet and I bet that will change whilst you are waging for the spacers etc! cool
Where's that can of paint,,, hehe. Well now I've got freaking Ferrari stopping Power hehe it's about time I lifted the body and sorted out its old bones!

I have my grandson with me this week so we've been eating roast dinners and having a a full on boys week, he's a computer nut and a bright lad, totally adores the Tvr and gets it far better than the grown ups,,
So sharing this Ferrari upgrade and opening boxes with goodies in it, checking brake disc spec and sizes etc with him, then the pads and discs arriving today, huge excitement and then showing him the old disc against the new,,,
He understands two/four and then later I explained 6 pot Calipers, he understands hydraulics fully and can clearly see as I do the difference in size alone is enough to be impressed.

The Brembo Pads have a high degree of metal in them, should heat up nicely,, my only thoughts are, this set up is for a heavy car,, infact contrary to other thoughts maybe in hindsight a more race aggressive pad may well be more suited to getting heat into them,,, for £36 for Brembo pads I've hardly taken a risk,, see how they fare first.

One really nice fact is removing the pads for cleaning and inspection or even cos you need to change them fast is now very simple and straight forward, so again adding to the appeal, just knock the pins out and off they come. smile


Alexdaredevils

5,697 posts

180 months

Saturday 2nd April 2016
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Now i'm running 18's they look small frown



Maybe 6 pot 375mm is next wink

DangerousDerek

8,655 posts

221 months

Saturday 2nd April 2016
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Is this what I need as a starting point?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/221290558563

Bassfiend229hp

5,530 posts

251 months

Saturday 2nd April 2016
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DangerousDerek said:
Is this what I need as a starting point?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/221290558563
Yup... smile

ETA : But get the Brembo badged calipers and not the Cosworth badged ones please. wink

Edited by Bassfiend229hp on Saturday 2nd April 09:36

QBee

20,995 posts

145 months

Saturday 2nd April 2016
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Alexdaredevils said:
Now i'm running 18's they look small frown



Maybe 6 pot 375mm is next wink
If you have the 324s they are already big enough to lock up the wheels without really trying.
Save your money to take the missus somewhere nice. lick

DangerousDerek

8,655 posts

221 months

Saturday 2nd April 2016
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What are recommended disc options?
I want something with a bit of bling, maybe drilled and slotted but don't want to buy cheap Chinese rubbish.

ClassiChimi

12,424 posts

150 months

Saturday 2nd April 2016
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Old blokes got a set of the Brembo to fit 336 mm advertised for £355 I'd snap em up Derek. Andav's discs look the biz,,

Just a thought,, what are we torquing up the two bracket to hub bolts too and also the finer thread bolts that connect the Caliper to bracket. Cheers

N7GTX

7,876 posts

144 months

Saturday 2nd April 2016
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ClassiChimi said:


Just a thought,, what are we torquing up the two bracket to hub bolts too and also the finer thread bolts that connect the Caliper to bracket. Cheers
Best rule of thumb is, tighten one turn past shear then back two....idea

ClassiChimi

12,424 posts

150 months

Saturday 2nd April 2016
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^^^^^^ I was once an expert. wink
Can't find my bible so was just wondering,, I'll look up the otiginal bolt settings and add a bit wink

DangerousDerek

8,655 posts

221 months

Saturday 2nd April 2016
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ClassiChimi said:
Old blokes got a set of the Brembo to fit 336 mm advertised for £355 I'd snap em up Derek. Andav's discs look the biz,,

Just a thought,, what are we torquing up the two bracket to hub bolts too and also the finer thread bolts that connect the Caliper to bracket. Cheers
Bought cheers

ChimpOnGas

Original Poster:

9,637 posts

180 months

Saturday 2nd April 2016
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DangerousDerek said:
ClassiChimi said:
Old blokes got a set of the Brembo to fit 336 mm advertised for £355 I'd snap em up Derek. Andav's discs look the biz,,

Just a thought,, what are we torquing up the two bracket to hub bolts too and also the finer thread bolts that connect the Caliper to bracket. Cheers
Bought cheers
Nice purchase Derek thumbup