B-b-ber BREMBOS!

B-b-ber BREMBOS!

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ChimpOnGas

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9,637 posts

180 months

Monday 7th March 2016
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Malcolm, you literally had me in stitches with your last post rofl

Please accept this post as my personal apology to the TVR community for all my incurable salesology and upgradeitus.

I will try to stop my research but I warn you now it'll be hard, if its any consolation this forum has also cajoled me into spending way more money on my car than is sensible. Piston Heads is like a worm that gets in your bank account and starts eating everything inside while teasing you with the promise that one last upgrade will deliver the perfect TVR Chimaera.

As we all know there is no such thing, I'm pretty sure as soon as I buy 'Ol Gasbag' a supercharger kit I'll be planning fully sequential injection or some other expensive addition that will give me a fractionally smoother idle and 1mpg advantage when driving in town on Wednesdays.

Once I've finished spending an indecent amount of my hard earned cash on such frivolities I'll immediately feel duty bound to find my way onto Piston Heads to tell everyone what a revelation it is in such glowing pros that others will soon feel their car is completely inadequate without adding ChimpOnGas' fully sequentially injected charge cooled super-duper-charger ding dong wink

The truth is, in life chasing perfection is like chasing rainbows, and in the world of TVR chasing perfection is like chasing rainbows in a desert tongue out

Wallets at the ready boys, ChimpOnGas has lots more rainbows up his sleeve, you have been warned!

Edited by ChimpOnGas on Monday 7th March 16:45

butch890

229 posts

106 months

Monday 7th March 2016
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ChimpOnGas said:
Malcolm, you literally had me in stitches with your last post rofl

Please accept this post as my personal apology to the TVR community for all my incurable salesology and upgradeitus.

I will try to stop my research but I warn you now it'll be hard, if its any consolation this forum has also cajoled me into spending way more money on my car than is sensible. Piston Heads is like a worm that gets in your bank account and starts eating everything inside while teasing you with the promise that one last upgrade will deliver the perfect TVR Chimaera.

As we all know there is no such thing, I'm pretty sure as soon as I buy 'Ol Gasbag' a supercharger kit I'll be planning fully sequential injection or some other expensive addition that will give me a fractionally smoother idle and 1mpg advantage when driving in town on Wednesdays.

Once I've finished spending an indecent amount of my hard earned cash on such frivolities I'll immediately feel duty bound to find my way onto Piston Heads to tell everyone what a revelation it is in such glowing pros that others will soon feel their car is completely inadequate without adding ChimpOnGas' fully sequentially injected charge cooled super-duper-charger ding dong wink

The truth is, in life chasing perfection is like chasing rainbows, and in the world of TVR chasing perfection is like chasing rainbows in a desert tongue out

Wallets at the ready boys, ChimpOnGas has lots more rainbows up his sleeve, you have been warned!

Edited by ChimpOnGas on Monday 7th March 16:45
i would really like a Light Pressure Turbo kit for my 450,if you could find your way clear to recommending one on this forum I would be only too happy to go out into the big bad world and buy one!

ChimpOnGas

Original Poster:

9,637 posts

180 months

Monday 7th March 2016
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butch890 said:
i would really like a Light Pressure Turbo kit for my 450,if you could find your way clear to recommending one on this forum I would be only too happy to go out into the big bad world and buy one!
Yeah baby, low pressure turbo's rock init, that sounds lick

But I think what we really need is a variable vane turbo with the special stand alone VGT controller from Suprock Technologies to make it all work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDfR0b_clxc

Just add a boost control protocol referencing road speed, engine speed and the gear ratio selected... so boost climbs incrementally as speed gathers and from 1st to 2nd, increasing exponentially from 3rd to 4th and then 5th where you strip all the teeth clean of the cog.

Combine with a Race Logic traction control system for nice safe progressive delivery of power and a rear main seal that turns itself inside out at anything over 12psi of boost as you blow up the old Rover crankcase like an giant aluminum balloon.

Easy peasy lemon squeezy, I'll get my mates at Lloyds to knock it up tomorrow afternoon tongue out

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butch890

229 posts

106 months

Monday 7th March 2016
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ChimpOnGas said:
Yeah baby, low pressure turbo's rock init, that sounds lick

But I think what we really need is a variable vane turbo with the special stand alone VGT controller from Suprock Technologies to make it all work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDfR0b_clxc

Just add a boost control protocol referencing road speed, engine speed and the gear ratio selected... so boost climbs incrementally as speed gathers and from 1st to 2nd, increasing exponentially from 3rd to 4th and then 5th where you strip all the teeth clean of the cog.

Combine with a Race Logic traction control system for nice safe progressive delivery of power and a rear main seal that turns itself inside out at anything over 12psi of boost as you blow up the old Rover crankcase like an giant aluminum balloon.

Easy peasy lemon squeezy, I'll get my mates at Lloyds to knock it up tomorrow afternoon tongue out

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WOW.
Yah baby where do Sign!!!

butch890

229 posts

106 months

Monday 7th March 2016
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Oh and will I need to do away with the factory gear shift system?!!!!!!

butch890

229 posts

106 months

Monday 7th March 2016
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Oh and will I need to do away with the factory gear shift system?!!!!!!

Brerabit

74 posts

108 months

Monday 7th March 2016
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I’m going to need something special to keep up with all these pumped up Chimps…
Does anyone know DeLorean’s part number for an OEM Flux Capacitor?

ChimpOnGas

Original Poster:

9,637 posts

180 months

Tuesday 8th March 2016
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Brerabit said:
I’m going to need something special to keep up with all these pumped up Chimps…
Does anyone know DeLorean’s part number for an OEM Flux Capacitor?
I just made my own Flux Capacitor Malcolm.



It turns back fuel prices to the early 1990's, that's what I call a proper TVR time machine wink

Brerabit

74 posts

108 months

Tuesday 8th March 2016
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Oh no you didn’t…
That, if I’m not mistaken, looks like very much like Nathans welding.
Though I must admit, I haven’t a clue who did the gift wrapping…

butch890

229 posts

106 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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Rib said:
if anyone is planning this, I have a set sat in my shed I never got round to fitting before buying the Tam
Do you still have them (I did mail you but have had no reply)
07817 571709

ChimpOnGas

Original Poster:

9,637 posts

180 months

Friday 11th March 2016
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Andav469 said:
Those are the pads I've just fitted in mine, try car parts 4 less, I've just paid £35 for them

Brembo Brake Pads (Front) Part No.: 10111017A

Edited by Andav469 on Tuesday 1st March 19:36
About to pull the trigger on these:

http://www.carparts4less.co.uk/cp4l/p/////?1011101...

Are they the correct fit, are they up to snuff?

Have you tried them mate?

Many thanks, Dave.

Andav469

958 posts

138 months

Friday 11th March 2016
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ChimpOnGas said:
About to pull the trigger on these:

http://www.carparts4less.co.uk/cp4l/p/////?1011101...

Are they the correct fit, are they up to snuff?

Have you tried them mate?

Many thanks, Dave.
Yes, correct pads, they are already in the car smile

ChimpOnGas

Original Poster:

9,637 posts

180 months

Friday 11th March 2016
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Andav469 said:
Yes, correct pads, they are already in the car smile
Are you happy with them?




I'm also looking at buying Brembo discs (09.5486.50).

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/371476530980

Are these the right ones?

Are Brembo discs worth the extra?

£120 is the cheapest I can find Brembo discs, hope they're correct and not not fakes?

Andav469

958 posts

138 months

Friday 11th March 2016
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ChimpOnGas said:
Are you happy with them?




I'm also looking at buying Brembo discs (09.5486.50).

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/371476530980

Are these the right ones?

Are Brembo discs worth the extra?

£120 is the cheapest I can find Brembo discs, hope they're correct and not not fakes?
I've only covered 50 miles on them so can't really give an opinion yet.

Those discs are the correct ones, but I have no experience of them, however, Brembo should be ok smile

ChimpOnGas

Original Poster:

9,637 posts

180 months

Friday 11th March 2016
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Andav469 said:
ChimpOnGas said:
Are you happy with them?




I'm also looking at buying Brembo discs (09.5486.50).

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/371476530980

Are these the right ones?

Are Brembo discs worth the extra?

£120 is the cheapest I can find Brembo discs, hope they're correct and not not fakes?
I've only covered 50 miles on them so can't really give an opinion yet.

Those discs are the correct ones, but I have no experience of them, however, Brembo should be ok smile
Thanks mate, I think I'm going full Brembo biggrin

ClassiChimi

12,424 posts

150 months

Friday 11th March 2016
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I've been in a nice Tvr with brembos today, yes I can confirm you'll be rather pleased me thinks,, you got me going,,I need Brembos in my life biglaugh

rigga

8,732 posts

202 months

Saturday 12th March 2016
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ChimpOnGas said:
Am I mad confused
Quite blatantly from some of the stuff that you post on here


But not for the brakes, sure more than I paid for my set up, but its the way you do thing's, and you're happy that way, once the brakes are on and you can see the improvement, the cost factor won't seem that great.

ChimpOnGas

Original Poster:

9,637 posts

180 months

Saturday 12th March 2016
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Part: Brembo four piston aluminium calipers - BMW E38
From: EBay seller
Cost: £165.00

Service: Brake refurb - New seal kit, 2 new pistons, pressure test
From: http://www.godspeedbrakes.co.uk/
Cost: £145.00 including P&P both ways

Part: Genuine Brembo Brake Pads (Brembo part no: P 06 018)
From: http://www.carparts4less.co.uk
Part Number: 10111017A
Cost: £35.31

Part: Genuine Brembo Discs
From: http://www.apd.co.uk/
Part Number: 09.5486.50
Cost: £120.00

Part: Hubcentric 12mm wheel spacers & Studs (Front & Rear)
From: EBay - Mtec Online
Part Number: CRP130A55
Cost: £73.98

Part: Cosworth 2 wheel drive Brembo 325mm bracket kit
From: EBay - Caprisport Direct (oldphonebloke)
eBay item number: 321062011167
Cost: £62.24

Total before fitting: £601.53

If rigga did it cheaper than £600 well good for him, if he wants to criticise the way I do things I'd kindly ask he keeps his opinions to himself as such unnecessarily unfriendly comments don't really add any value to this post rolleyes

My response would simply be to present the facts!

When you look at the other big brake kits out there this Brembo conversion remains an excellent value upgrade.
  • HiSpec kit - £1,261
  • The Wilwood kit from Powers Performance - £1,320
  • AP kits from Reyland - anything from £1,385 to £1,715
  • Tarox kit - £1978.80
Admittedly all the above come with lighter two piece discs with aluminium bells where as my Brembo conversion will use more traditional one piece discs. But if at a later date I choose to fit Mk1 Focus RS two piece discs with aluminium bells they'll be £400 a pair from Godspeed adding £280 to my £601.53, making at total of £881.53.

So if we are comparing apples with apples this Brembo conversion using two piece discs with aluminium bells works out at:
  • £379.47 cheaper than the HiSpec kit
  • £438.57 cheaper than a Wilwood kit from Powers Performance
  • £503.47 to £833.47 cheaper than the AP kits from Reyland
  • £1,097.27 cheaper than a Tarox kit
My Brembos may not be brand new calipers but they have been treated to a complete professional refurb making them as good as new, and in the real world I very much doubt they will perform worse or better than any of the above options.

So the saving if we take the apples for apples two part disc example is anything from £379.47 to £1,097.27.

None of these brake upgrades are what I'd call cheap, but if best value (performance vs cost) is the the objective nothing comes close to this BMW E-38 Brembo idea.

Thanks to those who took the risk to prove the idea worked on a Chimaera, and thanks once more to the same people who have guided me through the list of parts I need.

Dave. thumbup

Edited by ChimpOnGas on Thursday 1st August 11:39

rigga

8,732 posts

202 months

Saturday 12th March 2016
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There was no criticism intended,and possibly if I'd added a smiley there would have been no confusion on that, your posts are leanthly but informative.
If you took it as a pop at yourself when I've already commented in assistance to you ,then that's unfortunate.

ChimpOnGas

Original Poster:

9,637 posts

180 months

Saturday 12th March 2016
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rigga said:
There was no criticism intended,and possibly if I'd added a smiley there would have been no confusion on that, your posts are leanthly but informative.
If you took it as a pop at yourself when I've already commented in assistance to you ,then that's unfortunate.
No problem Martin hippy

The key point you make is I should really enjoy the improvement the Brembo conversion delivers, so I'm more than happy with that.

If you have any fitting tips for me they would also be very welcome and gratefully received, TBH my Brembos now need to be fitted to 'Ol Gasbag' sooner than I thought because yesterday I went for a lovely sunny blast and smelt brakes frown

Looks like my N/S Grandad caliper is hanging on, I fixed the same issue on the O/S two years ago so I now feel it's time to move on from these old Ford units. At the very minimum I'm looking at refurbishing my original boat anchors which makes the proven Brembo brake upgrade even more of a no-brainer.

Kind regards, Dave thumbup