Modern Porsche - Vs - TVR Chimaera
Discussion
m4tti said:
NickOrangeCars said:
GT-R? please, in a straight line quick, but actually not that quick I can name a long list of cars faster, but round corners, pretty much everything is quicker.
You've clearly never seen one at full tilt and the way it corrects itself. At the super car event last year literally nothing was as quick. It's nurburing time is astonishing at the price point what have you seen quicker at that price. Uhh no nothing.... Stop rambling your clearly deluded the times it puts down are clear evidence. And if you make up some story we'll know your talking complete b
ks as said earlier due to the nurburing times. Edited by m4tti on Saturday 30th April 22:42
But boring, yes.
OleVix said:
The GTR is stupidly quick around corners. It baffles me because its bulky and not light at 1750kg. Still, Ive been at the ring many times and GTRs come flying by me like the 911 GT3 RSs do. Insane!
But boring, yes.
Bingo Ole... It's very quick but boring. If you want to go quicker and be more involved. there is the radical rxc.. But let's be clear the gtr handles.But boring, yes.
If your company scheme allows you to take cash there's a lot of options.
m4tti said:
NickOrangeCars said:
GT-R? please, in a straight line quick, but actually not that quick I can name a long list of cars faster, but round corners, pretty much everything is quicker.
You've clearly never seen one at full tilt and the way it corrects itself. At the super car event last year literally nothing was as quick. It's nurburing time is astonishing at the price point what have you seen quicker at that price. Uhh no nothing.... Stop rambling your clearly deluded the times it puts down are clear evidence. And if you make up some story we'll know your talking complete bks as said earlier due to the nurburing times. Edited by m4tti on Saturday 30th April 22:42
If you want a playstation generation everyday car a Porsche/GTR/Subaru/etc would be great. Early Cayman is maybe 15k for a nice one, down to 5k for a knackered Boxster and they would outhandle and outdrive any standard TVR in the same price ranges quite easily, but that's not the point of a TVR. GTR looks like driving it is amazing, but is it actually fun - and how much are they to buy? An AMG Merc is closest - an SLK55 for 15k is doable, and they sound epic, but there's no manual 'box.
For an 'event' when you sit down and start the thing, TVR wins. Spares prices, ease of DIY repair, noise, looks, depreciation, insurance, running costs overall - all pluses. Add in a modern ECU system and some clever upgrades and you do have the perfect modern V8 hot rod.
For an 'event' when you sit down and start the thing, TVR wins. Spares prices, ease of DIY repair, noise, looks, depreciation, insurance, running costs overall - all pluses. Add in a modern ECU system and some clever upgrades and you do have the perfect modern V8 hot rod.
m4tti said:
You've clearly never seen one at full tilt and the way it corrects itself. At the super car event last year literally nothing was as quick. It's nurburing time is astonishing at the price point what have you seen quicker at that price. Uhh no nothing.... Stop rambling your clearly deluded the times it puts down are clear evidence. And if you make up some story we'll know your talking complete bks as said earlier due to the nurburing times.
A supercar event for non-supercars? if you think a GT-R is as quick as something like a McLaren 650/675 (or Ferrari 488) - both which have 650bhp but weight 400kg less than the a GT-R then your the one who is deluded. ks as said earlier due to the nurburing times. Edited by m4tti on Saturday 30th April 22:42
And for reference - 0-100mph for a GT-R is 8.5s - in comparison a 650S will do it in 5.7s - not even in the same league, which clearly it's not.
NickOrangeCars said:
GT-R? please, in a straight line quick, but actually not that quick I can name a long list of cars faster, but round corners, pretty much everything is quicker.
Must go down as one of the most short sighted and `in denial` comments I've seen in a while, especially for the money we're talking. Sort yourself out man.Back to the OPs question. I have a good friend with a `97 Chim that he's fully restoring. The car wasn't too bad when he bought it but the more he dug and poked the more things he found wrong. As far as he was concerned (a huge TVR fan and had a Tuscan before btw), they were more or less thrown out of the factory with issues back then as demand was higher than they could supply. At the minute the shell is in one place and the chassis is being completely remade by himself on spit with stainless tubing. The engine's here, the dash there and the wiring there etc The wheels, brakes and suspension renewed or refurbed. It's just parts but when it's done it'll be better than it left the factory.
If you're a knacky type then the TVR will offer more than the Porsche. I had 911 C4S that cost me 50 big ones that I sold a few weeks back. back to back with the Chim they were chalk and cheese and I was in both. Forget the 0-60 and top speed numbers. They're all academic and in reality they're never usually accurate. On paper the Porsche was on a par with my mates Chim but the reality was the Porsche was massively quicker in every department but 13 years younger would have lent a hand there I suppose. The Porsche will be a brilliant, accomplished and seriously capable motor car but kinda lacking in character compared to the Chim.
The Porsche was a box to tick for me but I don't know about you. If it were me? TVR.
NickOrangeCars said:
A supercar event for non-supercars? if you think a GT-R is as quick as something like a McLaren 650/675 (or Ferrari 488) - both which have 650bhp but weight 400kg less than the a GT-R then your the one who is deluded.
And for reference - 0-100mph for a GT-R is 8.5s - in comparison a 650S will do it in 5.7s - not even in the same league, which clearly it's not.
And for reference - 0-100mph for a GT-R is 8.5s - in comparison a 650S will do it in 5.7s - not even in the same league, which clearly it's not.
Hold on you said it wouldn't go round corners... Now you pull out your top trumps and quote straight line figures. Make your mind up... And to help you a 488 laps fiarano about a second quicker than a 458... A 458 gets no where near the Nordschleife time of the GTR.
https://nurburgringlaptimes.com/lap-times-top-100/
You may aswell give up now before embarrassing yourself more.
A bit O/T but some interesting comments in this video regarding the chassis at 5:00 in.
Worth watching his other videos, some very good viewing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqTbdmbL7mU
Worth watching his other videos, some very good viewing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqTbdmbL7mU
m4tti said:
Hold on you said it wouldn't go round corners... Now you pull out your top trumps and quote straight line figures. Make your mind up... And to help you a 488 laps fiarano about a second quicker than a 458... A 458 gets no where near the Nordschleife time of the GTR.
https://nurburgringlaptimes.com/lap-times-top-100/
You may aswell give up now before embarrassing yourself more.
king idiot. If you think a 1740kg car with 200bhp less, and much less Aero, can compete with cars that are faster in a straight line, but also have much more sophisticated suspension / brake steering - bigger rubber - you think a GTR using fking magical faeries to make it go? #idiot -NickOrangeCars said:
the last word - your a fking idiot. If you think a 1740kg car with 200bhp less, and much less Aero, can compete with cars that are faster in a straight line, but also have much more sophisticated suspension / brake steering - bigger rubber - you think a GTR using fking magical faeries to make it go? #idiot -
I'm an idiot. What are you on about... Look at the times... Click the link orange balls. It's there for all to see. As much as it pains me to say it the Nissan achieves good lap times. king idiot. If you think a 1740kg car with 200bhp less, and much less Aero, can compete with cars that are faster in a straight line, but also have much more sophisticated suspension / brake steering - bigger rubber - you think a GTR using fking magical faeries to make it go? #idiot -Your a terrible sport and can't take a bit of banter. Hopefully our paths will cross and you'll realise I'm far from an idiot. I'll bring the "magical fairies"... Spelt "fairy".
Edited by m4tti on Sunday 1st May 20:05
Edited by m4tti on Sunday 1st May 20:07
NickOrangeCars said:
m4tti said:
Hold on you said it wouldn't go round corners... Now you pull out your top trumps and quote straight line figures. Make your mind up... And to help you a 488 laps fiarano about a second quicker than a 458... A 458 gets no where near the Nordschleife time of the GTR.
https://nurburgringlaptimes.com/lap-times-top-100/
You may aswell give up now before embarrassing yourself more.
king idiot. If you think a 1740kg car with 200bhp less, and much less Aero, can compete with cars that are faster in a straight line, but also have much more sophisticated suspension / brake steering - bigger rubber - you think a GTR using fking magical faeries to make it go? #idiot -king idiot. I love a supercar as much as the next petrol head but as much as it pains me to say it, there's very few other cars I'd want to be in if I had to go from A to B down a combination of M, A and B roads and wanted to be first.Edited by Andy_mr2sc on Monday 2nd May 09:46
NickOrangeCars said:
the last word - your a fking idiot. If you think a 1740kg car with 200bhp less, and much less Aero, can compete with cars that are faster in a straight line, but also have much more sophisticated suspension / brake steering - bigger rubber - you think a GTR using fking magical faeries to make it go? #idiot -
king idiot. If you think a 1740kg car with 200bhp less, and much less Aero, can compete with cars that are faster in a straight line, but also have much more sophisticated suspension / brake steering - bigger rubber - you think a GTR using fking magical faeries to make it go? #idiot -
ChimpOnGas said:
Ok on the face of it a bit of foolishness from me here, but it's a more realistic idea than you think 
Here goes.....
Option One: Buy a new Porsche 718 2.5 Boxster Roadster S for £51,105
Or...
Option Two: Buy a decent 18 year old 4.0 litre TVR Chimaera for £14,000?
So how do the costs of ownership in year one stack up?
So taking a modest annual mileage of 6,000 in year one the new Porsche is going to cost me £15,000.49, or just over £1,000 more than buying the TVR Chimaera outright!
The TVR on the other hand will cost £1,471.20 or a massive £13,530.00 annual saving over the Porsche, again this saving being big enough to enough to buy a TVR Chimaera outright!
And I haven't even factored in the lease or loan repayments on the Porsche and a straightforward bank loan of £14,000 to buy the TVR (both over four years), if I did the Porsche would cost at least a further £12,000 a year to run than the Chimaera
So do I opt out of my company car scheme and use my allowance to buy/lease a new Porsche 718 2.5 Boxster Roadster S or do I press 'Ol Gasbag' into service as my company car and save a small fortune
Of course I already have the TVR and 'Ol Gasbag' consistently delivers an average fuel economy of £0.10p per mile, so that makes it work out even cheaper still
A £25,000 saving in year one is what I'm predicting, whoever said TVRs are impractical and costly to own clearly hasn't looked closely at what people seem happy to throw away every year just to put a new Porsche on the drive.
In cost terms the TVR wins hands down and by a massive margin, 'Ol Gasbag' becoming my new company car.. it's a no-brainer boys
Hi Guys
Would just like to add my thoughts to the original post and some of the relevant responses.
I'm lucky enough to be married to a petrol head who likes to own her own car, which I can understand as we are all different and appreciate ascetics and driver experience differently.
Anyway to the point, we own and run a Chimaera 500, Porsche Boxster S and Volvo S60 D5 as the daily hack.
The Boxster came with much trepidation as replacement for a nicely mod dded Coup 20v Turbo, and was concerned due to the negative comments.
However the Boaster is a revelation and a truly jaw dropping thing to live with delivering everything you could possibly want from a performance sports car. I knew from all the hype that it would not disappoint but thought my gripe would be how boring it would be..
From the drivers seat the dynamics and body control are on another planet (sorry to disappoint a few but a TVR will never come close), so good that even at touring and and town speeds it never feels anything else but special.
This sounds like the Chimaer could be on the way out, we have talked about getting rid of all the above and into a new Boxster which could work, but we would miss
People coming up to talk to us about the Chimaera.
The sound and encouragement from bystanders to give it some.
The seance of adventure in setting out on a road trip
Tinkering and the rewarding seance of achievement in keeping it in good fettle
Making young children cry and old people leap into the air.
Was invited to the local launch party of the new Boxster, and would say that it is a thing of beauty and a step up from the outgoing model. The problem for me with it is, generally Porsche owners are buying the hype and not for the driving experience.
Here goes.....
Option One: Buy a new Porsche 718 2.5 Boxster Roadster S for £51,105
Or...
Option Two: Buy a decent 18 year old 4.0 litre TVR Chimaera for £14,000?
So how do the costs of ownership in year one stack up?
| Expense | Porsche 718 | TVR Chimaera |
|---|---|---|
| Road Fund Tax | £230 | £235 |
| Insurance | £825 | £285 |
| MoT | £0.00 | £40.00 |
| Fuel - Pence per mile | 19.3p | 20.2p |
| Servicing | £510.00 | £550.00 |
| Depreciation in year one | -£12,326.00 | +£800 |
| 0-60 | 4.6 seconds | 4.8 seconds |
| Top speed | 177mph | 153mph |
So taking a modest annual mileage of 6,000 in year one the new Porsche is going to cost me £15,000.49, or just over £1,000 more than buying the TVR Chimaera outright!
The TVR on the other hand will cost £1,471.20 or a massive £13,530.00 annual saving over the Porsche, again this saving being big enough to enough to buy a TVR Chimaera outright!
And I haven't even factored in the lease or loan repayments on the Porsche and a straightforward bank loan of £14,000 to buy the TVR (both over four years), if I did the Porsche would cost at least a further £12,000 a year to run than the Chimaera
So do I opt out of my company car scheme and use my allowance to buy/lease a new Porsche 718 2.5 Boxster Roadster S or do I press 'Ol Gasbag' into service as my company car and save a small fortune
Of course I already have the TVR and 'Ol Gasbag' consistently delivers an average fuel economy of £0.10p per mile, so that makes it work out even cheaper still
A £25,000 saving in year one is what I'm predicting, whoever said TVRs are impractical and costly to own clearly hasn't looked closely at what people seem happy to throw away every year just to put a new Porsche on the drive.
In cost terms the TVR wins hands down and by a massive margin, 'Ol Gasbag' becoming my new company car.. it's a no-brainer boys
Hi Guys
Would just like to add my thoughts to the original post and some of the relevant responses.
I'm lucky enough to be married to a petrol head who likes to own her own car, which I can understand as we are all different and appreciate ascetics and driver experience differently.
Anyway to the point, we own and run a Chimaera 500, Porsche Boxster S and Volvo S60 D5 as the daily hack.
The Boxster came with much trepidation as replacement for a nicely mod dded Coup 20v Turbo, and was concerned due to the negative comments.
However the Boaster is a revelation and a truly jaw dropping thing to live with delivering everything you could possibly want from a performance sports car. I knew from all the hype that it would not disappoint but thought my gripe would be how boring it would be..
From the drivers seat the dynamics and body control are on another planet (sorry to disappoint a few but a TVR will never come close), so good that even at touring and and town speeds it never feels anything else but special.
This sounds like the Chimaer could be on the way out, we have talked about getting rid of all the above and into a new Boxster which could work, but we would miss
People coming up to talk to us about the Chimaera.
The sound and encouragement from bystanders to give it some.
The seance of adventure in setting out on a road trip
Tinkering and the rewarding seance of achievement in keeping it in good fettle
Making young children cry and old people leap into the air.
Was invited to the local launch party of the new Boxster, and would say that it is a thing of beauty and a step up from the outgoing model. The problem for me with it is, generally Porsche owners are buying the hype and not for the driving experience.
Edited by ChimpOnGas on Friday 29th April 14:10
The other thing to consider, and I know this doesn't happen to everyone and depends on numbers of miles you are doing, but your love for the Chim could get diluted or even reversed by using it as a daily. That happened with me on my previous venture into TVR. I was doing big miles but in the end it started pissing me off more than putting a smile on my face. That was partly down to 90's support structure but I much prefer driving the Tuscan when I want to rather than have to.
We did have an early Boxster which was in parts great (handling/noise) but wasn't as well built as it should have been. I can see the attraction of a Cayman (these days I'd much prefer one over a 911). If it were me I'd get a cheaper fun daily hack and keep the Chim.
We did have an early Boxster which was in parts great (handling/noise) but wasn't as well built as it should have been. I can see the attraction of a Cayman (these days I'd much prefer one over a 911). If it were me I'd get a cheaper fun daily hack and keep the Chim.
ChimpOnGas said:
| Expense | Porsche 718 | TVR Chimaera |
|---|---|---|
| Road Fund Tax | £230 | £235 |
| Insurance | £825 | £285 |
| MoT | £0.00 | £40.00 |
| Fuel - Pence per mile | 19.3p | 20.2p |
| Servicing | £510.00 | £550.00 |
| Depreciation in year one | -£12,326.00 | +£800 |
| 0-60 | 4.6 seconds | 4.8 seconds |
| Top speed | 177mph | 153mph |
| Paper Bag disguise | 10p | Not Required |
| Backup Paper Bag disguise | 10p | Not Required |
| Heated Rollers | Standard Fit | What? |
Ok, time to inject some reality and common sense here...
I have to admit there are many occasions where my modern company car is the default go-to option, on a frosty morning when I'm feeling tired and find myself late for an important meeting taking the TVR couldn't be furthest from my mind.
Saying that if I lost my job and the company car that goes with it, I certainly wouldn't bother buying a daily hack while I found gainful employment in my next sales role.. that lets face it would invariable come with another company car.
For that period I'd be quite happy to press my TVR into everyday use, I've already improved it's reliability and practicality in every area, and with LPG economy delivering the petrol cost equivalent of 45-50mpg the one thing that makes running a standard Chimaera painful has been completely kicked into touch.... so much so that I'd need a diesel Golf to equal its fuel economy!
I bought my Chimaera for many reasons but mostly for me it's about my love for traditional British sports cars and the driving experience the offer. I've been around traditional classics for years, while for me they deliver the ultimate involving and charismatic driving experience on the right day, it has to be said on so many levels they can also be a deeply frustrating & disappointing on modern roads amongst modern traffic.
In the last 10 years we've seen a significant rise in the "Improved Classic" idea, a concept I'm a massive fan of, but what we need to accept is the starting point is typically something from the 60's that is then extensively improved in performance, braking, handling & reliability.
Lets not forget 60's classic sports cars aren't exactly what you'd call affordable these days, for example I've always considered the Triumph TR4 (while not exactly fast) to be a nice practical classic British sports car... but it seems you'll need well over £20k to buy a decent one these days. A 60's Elan is another great little practical classic (all be it a little cramped inside) but at £30k plus for something half decent the inflated classic values themselves are making everyday use impractical, I'd start to really worry about damage and theft so much so it would really detract from my pleasure.
If you think about it the first manufacturers to lead the way with this "Improved Classic" concept were Morgan & TVR in the 1990's when there was a big increase in classic car interest in the UK, this was actually a more of a twist of fate because both Morgan & TVR were financially forced to follow the build process of old so the end results were just old designs that needed to be subtly updated to remain even remotely saleable... even to the eccentrics that chose them.
TVR of course did a much better job of it than Morgan, but only because Morgan were selling on a nostalgic design that had features hard wired into it that could never be improved, things like the cramped cockpit, poor ergonomics, leaky & draughty hood design, rubbish windscreen wipers ect ect.
TVR on the other hand while doggedly continuing with the old school tubular trellis back bone chassis design at least had the option to update and elevate the creature comforts out of the dark ages. This combined with the use of the reliable Rover V8, fuel injection, the BW T5 gearbox, strong BTR LSD diff and a host of other proven elements from large manufactures with proper development and manufacturing budgets was a recipe that actually allowed TVR to nick a few sales from Porsche in the mid 90's.
When I came to choosing my next classic some six years ago the way I saw it I could either buy something from the 60's (getting expensive even then) and spend another big wedge of money upgrading it to meet my needs, or buy a TVR Chimaera which is effectively an old school drivers car that already had 95% of the upgrades as standard. As someone who expects to actually use his classic car rather than polish and park it at car shows the Chimaera was a no-brainer for me.
Lets say I'd bought an E-Type, the first upgrades I would have embarked on would have been...
1. Stick a T5 gerbox in it to get shot of the terrible four speed box
2. Upgrade the shockingly poor brakes
3. Upgrade the handling with modern dampers
4. Fit fuel injection
So six years ago I could have bought the E-Type coupe for £45k but would have then chucked another £15k into it to make it usable and safe on modern roads, I would have ended up with something very special and reasonably practical but would have spent the thick end of £60k, saying that it would probably be worth roughly £80k today.
Ok so the TVR is never going to have the historical cachet of the Jag but make no mistake my Chimaera definitely delivers the old school driving experience I love so much, its just it came with all the above improvements in place as standard. As a starting point a standard Chimaera represents truly astonishing value for anyone looking for a usable classic, even more so now 60's stuff is so expensive, the upgrade head start the TVR offers already puts you so far ahead of the game for so much less money you can easily afford to throw a few more quid at your it to make a Chimaera what I believe becomes the ultimate "improved classic".
The Modern Porsche - Vs - TVR Chimaera question I posed when I started this topic is not really a fair comparison at all, however the fact I can make the comparison at all and it not seem completely ridiculous is testament to how good the TVR is.
The truth is we need to view the Chimaera for what it is, a brilliant already improved old school drivers car, if you then compare it with more appropriate rivals like an E-Type, 60's Elan, or Austin Healey it becomes immediately apparent what a bargain the TVR is.
The fact I'd quite happily make it my everyday drive if my company car situation was to change is a praise indeed for such a niche market low volume sports car that lets face it was built some 20 years ago
I have to admit there are many occasions where my modern company car is the default go-to option, on a frosty morning when I'm feeling tired and find myself late for an important meeting taking the TVR couldn't be furthest from my mind.
Saying that if I lost my job and the company car that goes with it, I certainly wouldn't bother buying a daily hack while I found gainful employment in my next sales role.. that lets face it would invariable come with another company car.
For that period I'd be quite happy to press my TVR into everyday use, I've already improved it's reliability and practicality in every area, and with LPG economy delivering the petrol cost equivalent of 45-50mpg the one thing that makes running a standard Chimaera painful has been completely kicked into touch.... so much so that I'd need a diesel Golf to equal its fuel economy!
I bought my Chimaera for many reasons but mostly for me it's about my love for traditional British sports cars and the driving experience the offer. I've been around traditional classics for years, while for me they deliver the ultimate involving and charismatic driving experience on the right day, it has to be said on so many levels they can also be a deeply frustrating & disappointing on modern roads amongst modern traffic.
In the last 10 years we've seen a significant rise in the "Improved Classic" idea, a concept I'm a massive fan of, but what we need to accept is the starting point is typically something from the 60's that is then extensively improved in performance, braking, handling & reliability.
Lets not forget 60's classic sports cars aren't exactly what you'd call affordable these days, for example I've always considered the Triumph TR4 (while not exactly fast) to be a nice practical classic British sports car... but it seems you'll need well over £20k to buy a decent one these days. A 60's Elan is another great little practical classic (all be it a little cramped inside) but at £30k plus for something half decent the inflated classic values themselves are making everyday use impractical, I'd start to really worry about damage and theft so much so it would really detract from my pleasure.
If you think about it the first manufacturers to lead the way with this "Improved Classic" concept were Morgan & TVR in the 1990's when there was a big increase in classic car interest in the UK, this was actually a more of a twist of fate because both Morgan & TVR were financially forced to follow the build process of old so the end results were just old designs that needed to be subtly updated to remain even remotely saleable... even to the eccentrics that chose them.
TVR of course did a much better job of it than Morgan, but only because Morgan were selling on a nostalgic design that had features hard wired into it that could never be improved, things like the cramped cockpit, poor ergonomics, leaky & draughty hood design, rubbish windscreen wipers ect ect.
TVR on the other hand while doggedly continuing with the old school tubular trellis back bone chassis design at least had the option to update and elevate the creature comforts out of the dark ages. This combined with the use of the reliable Rover V8, fuel injection, the BW T5 gearbox, strong BTR LSD diff and a host of other proven elements from large manufactures with proper development and manufacturing budgets was a recipe that actually allowed TVR to nick a few sales from Porsche in the mid 90's.
When I came to choosing my next classic some six years ago the way I saw it I could either buy something from the 60's (getting expensive even then) and spend another big wedge of money upgrading it to meet my needs, or buy a TVR Chimaera which is effectively an old school drivers car that already had 95% of the upgrades as standard. As someone who expects to actually use his classic car rather than polish and park it at car shows the Chimaera was a no-brainer for me.
Lets say I'd bought an E-Type, the first upgrades I would have embarked on would have been...
1. Stick a T5 gerbox in it to get shot of the terrible four speed box
2. Upgrade the shockingly poor brakes
3. Upgrade the handling with modern dampers
4. Fit fuel injection
So six years ago I could have bought the E-Type coupe for £45k but would have then chucked another £15k into it to make it usable and safe on modern roads, I would have ended up with something very special and reasonably practical but would have spent the thick end of £60k, saying that it would probably be worth roughly £80k today.
Ok so the TVR is never going to have the historical cachet of the Jag but make no mistake my Chimaera definitely delivers the old school driving experience I love so much, its just it came with all the above improvements in place as standard. As a starting point a standard Chimaera represents truly astonishing value for anyone looking for a usable classic, even more so now 60's stuff is so expensive, the upgrade head start the TVR offers already puts you so far ahead of the game for so much less money you can easily afford to throw a few more quid at your it to make a Chimaera what I believe becomes the ultimate "improved classic".
The Modern Porsche - Vs - TVR Chimaera question I posed when I started this topic is not really a fair comparison at all, however the fact I can make the comparison at all and it not seem completely ridiculous is testament to how good the TVR is.
The truth is we need to view the Chimaera for what it is, a brilliant already improved old school drivers car, if you then compare it with more appropriate rivals like an E-Type, 60's Elan, or Austin Healey it becomes immediately apparent what a bargain the TVR is.
The fact I'd quite happily make it my everyday drive if my company car situation was to change is a praise indeed for such a niche market low volume sports car that lets face it was built some 20 years ago
Edited by ChimpOnGas on Monday 2nd May 12:03
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