Battery re-location.?

Battery re-location.?

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TailEndCharlie

Original Poster:

118 posts

198 months

Tuesday 17th May 2016
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Hi.
Im contemplating re-locating my battery.
To either the boot area, OR in the cubby behind he front seats.

And I have a few questions.

What size of cable is used,
And
where do you run/hide the cable.
Ta.

450Nick

4,027 posts

212 months

Wednesday 18th May 2016
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Use an Odyssey PC1100 battery and get the ally cage that goes with it and mount it above the fuel tank in the middle. Get batt cable from vehicle wiring products and I ran mine to the right, over the wing and down the back of the door sill, then through the floor, along into the transmission tunnel and forward.

I highly recommend getting a battery brain as well with remote. This will stop the car ever going flat and means you'll always be able to get into the boot.

QBee

20,972 posts

144 months

Wednesday 18th May 2016
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My battery is located where 450Nick says.
Live lead goes out of the boot behind the newly located battery, drops down and runs along cable tied to the driver's side chassis rail to the starter.
Helps with starting.

TailEndCharlie

Original Poster:

118 posts

198 months

Wednesday 18th May 2016
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That's a nice tidy install....
Thanks so far chaps...

QBee

20,972 posts

144 months

Wednesday 18th May 2016
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Try to resist putting it in the bottom corners of the boot - inevitably, while putting the roof in the boot, while trying to avoid hitting the battery there with the corner of the roof, you will eventually bang the other corner on the wing and damage the paintwork. furious

bobfather

11,171 posts

255 months

Wednesday 18th May 2016
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These Odyssey batteries would fit in the storage hole behind the passenger seat. Cables could run under the centre console. That way it would be nicely protected from accidental shorting out by metal objects and it leaves the boot free

carsy

3,018 posts

165 months

Wednesday 18th May 2016
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Best place for it as long as you can do a bit of fibre glassing.


450Nick

4,027 posts

212 months

Wednesday 18th May 2016
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bobfather said:
These Odyssey batteries would fit in the storage hole behind the passenger seat. Cables could run under the centre console. That way it would be nicely protected from accidental shorting out by metal objects and it leaves the boot free
I don't know, I used to have a pc925 which would have fit there, but it did struggle a bit on hot start or very cold days. The 1000 won't fit there but fits very neatly above the fuel tank and it starts with much more gusto in all conditions and can be left a lot longer even without the battery brain. I'd definitely recommend it over the smaller types having had 2 small ones before.

ChimpOnGas

9,637 posts

179 months

Thursday 19th May 2016
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With lead acid batteries you can't beat the rules of physics and chemistry, so quite simply bigger is always better.

And how heavy a battery is for a given size tells you a lot about its quality, the rule here is also simple... the heavier the better.

Four years ago I fitted an Odyssey PC1500 which is the same size the 072 battery TVR specified, Ok so there's no extra leg room but I never sit in the passenger seat so who gives a monkey's about that?

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=111...

The difference comes when you study the spec on this 22.4kg heavy weight eek










Upgrade your starter cable to 50mm2, add a direct from starter mounting bolt to battery earth in the same cable, add a Battery Brain remote battery disconnect device then bypass or replace the poorly wired Meta immobiliser and you'll eliminate 99% of all the classic TVR starting disappointments.


pb450

1,302 posts

160 months

Thursday 19th May 2016
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Mine's in the boot (with fat cables) on top of the fuel tank. Original battery, neat installation, smart box. No pictures but I can take one and post if interested.

Added bonus (or one of the main selling points, IMHO) is the increased passenger leg room for tall, touring non-drivers. smile

Sardonicus

18,958 posts

221 months

Thursday 19th May 2016
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ChimpOnGas said:
With lead acid batteries you can't beat the rules of physics and chemistry, so quite simply bigger is always better.

And how heavy a battery is for a given size tells you a lot about its quality, the rule here is also simple... the heavier the better.

Four years ago I fitted an Odyssey PC1500 which is the same size the 072 battery TVR specified, Ok so there's no extra leg room but I never sit in the passenger seat so who gives a monkey's about that?

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=111...

The difference comes when you study the spec on this 22.4kg heavy weight eek










Upgrade your starter cable to 50mm2, add a direct from starter mounting bolt to battery earth in the same cable, add a Battery Brain remote battery disconnect device then bypass or replace the poorly wired Meta immobiliser and you'll eliminate 99% of all the classic TVR starting disappointments.
Bloody hell Dave see what you mean eek and I thought this was a bit of a monster (not quite on par with the PC1500 though) but at £50 and an hours drive I couldn't resist hehe

bobfather

11,171 posts

255 months

Thursday 19th May 2016
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pb450 said:
Mine's in the boot (with fat cables) on top of the fuel tank. Original battery, neat installation, smart box. No pictures but I can take one and post if interested.

Added bonus (or one of the main selling points, IMHO) is the increased passenger leg room for tall, touring non-drivers. smile
Is that the standard 072 battery? This is interesting, the only thing putting me off is that my 072 is only 12 months old so I don't want to waste it

ChimpOnGas

9,637 posts

179 months

Thursday 19th May 2016
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Sardonicus said:
loody hell Dave see what you mean eek and I thought this was a bit of a monster (not quite on par with the PC1500 though) but at £50 and an hours drive I couldn't resist hehe
Bargain Simon, a fantastic battery and a great buy there mate thumbup

The truth is my Odyssey PC1500 is probably total overkill, you do get to a point where there's no point in fitting a more grunty and bigger and bigger battery.

Yes it was expensive, but then again I got it at cost from one of my tame suppliers I'd fed a lot of business too over the years.

It's not like I'm winching or going on African expeditions which is the target market for the PC1500, but I got so sick of failed start disappointments I needed to sort it, the Odyssey was just one element in a chain of solutions I implemented.

A Meta bypass or properly wired replacement certainly improves TVR Chimaera reliability no end, as does a new heaver gauge starter cable followed by an addition earth cable and in my case a new starter motor.

They all played their part, but lets not forget the Battery Brain which has been an absolute God send for lay-ups of over two weeks when I didn't have a mains point, but also for its additional level of security and as a safety feature too wink

Sardonicus

18,958 posts

221 months

Thursday 19th May 2016
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ChimpOnGas said:
Bargain Simon, a fantastic battery and a great buy there mate thumbup

The truth is my Odyssey PC1500 is probably total overkill, you do get to a point where there's no point in fitting a more grunty and bigger and bigger battery.

Yes it was expensive, but then again I got it at cost from one of my tame suppliers I'd fed a lot of business too over the years.

It's not like I'm winching or going on African expeditions which is the target market for the PC1500, but I got so sick of failed start disappointments I needed to sort it, the Odyssey was just one element in a chain of solutions I implemented.

A Meta bypass or properly wired replacement certainly improves TVR Chimaera reliability no end, as does a new heaver gauge starter cable followed by an addition earth cable and in my case a new starter motor.

They all played their part, but lets not forget the Battery Brain which has been an absolute God send for lay-ups of over two weeks when I didn't have a mains point, but also for its additional level of security and as a safety feature too wink
Yeh definitely over kill Dave wink but like you said earlier bigger is better my previous 075 Bosch S3 lasted over 7 years on my car but I use a battery minder when the car is out of service especially with the constant drain of the alarm although the Cobra cat 1 I have fitted is very frugal in that department

Hoofa

3,151 posts

208 months

Friday 20th May 2016
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I'll give the odyssey battery another vote, I went through two Varley red tops and a exide battery as above due to failures

What mods are you doing on the meta alarm ? , I have upgraded the battery cable to 35mm marine grade

450Nick

4,027 posts

212 months

Friday 20th May 2016
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The best thing to do with the meta is bin it. I replaced mine with an Autowatch 457rli years ago and it's been faultless and it's much smaller. It still has triple immobiliser circuits but I wired mine up differently to TVR so it really does make it impossible to start, but no current really goes through it. I've also put in a big waterproof hella 100amp relay that sits under the bonnet and when activated by the ignition barrel, it pulls current directly from the 100amp fuse and feeds it into the starter motor. This way the current never even comes into the car, so with the big odyssey battery I'm hoping it will solve all of my old hot start problems (although to be honest they all seemed to be battery related anyway)

Sardonicus

18,958 posts

221 months

Friday 20th May 2016
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Wired correctly with a relay fitted to the starter solenoid energizer circuit the modular immobilizer relays are only switching milliamps anyway for fuel pump, starter relays, etc, sounds complicated but its not my Cobra system as been trouble free for over 10 years and I am still on the 1st fob battery but I have a touch key just in case hehe but no surprise really its been installed correctly which in relative terms concerning modern vehicle electrics and regardless of what you hear is a piece of piss on these cars



Edited by Sardonicus on Friday 20th May 10:01

pb450

1,302 posts

160 months

Friday 20th May 2016
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bobfather said:
Is that the standard 072 battery? This is interesting, the only thing putting me off is that my 072 is only 12 months old so I don't want to waste it
It's whatever came out of the footwell, transferred straight to the boot. I'll try to remember to take a picture over the weekend a post it.

bobfather

11,171 posts

255 months

Friday 20th May 2016
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pb450 said:
bobfather said:
Is that the standard 072 battery? This is interesting, the only thing putting me off is that my 072 is only 12 months old so I don't want to waste it
It's whatever came out of the footwell, transferred straight to the boot. I'll try to remember to take a picture over the weekend a post it.
thumbup

QBee

20,972 posts

144 months

Friday 20th May 2016
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Sardonicus said:
Wired correctly with a relay fitted to the starter solenoid energizer circuit the modular immobilizer relays are only switching milliamps anyway for fuel pump, starter relays, etc
I love it when you talk dirty, Simon whistle