Door mirrors - Help!
Discussion
As the title really, I have looked on here to find some good information on mending and keeping the original door mirrors, but most of the information was old and had little or no photos.
So these are my photos of the problem I have with the passengers side door mirror unit. it's broken off! Simple
So where to go from here?
1. Try and mend it as the previous owner tried to do?
2. Buy a new one - V. expensive?
3. Convert to VW Corrado. (I would really like to keep the car original though)
Your thoughts + suggestion guys / girls?
Here the mirror unit opened and you see the original repair-
On the underside of the repair. - You can see the extent of the broken ring as it was before. I don't think it was hanging on with much!
Here you can see the broken part and the little grub screw (indicated) that holds the "toadstool" on the door bos
On the underside of the "toadstool" is a screw but I can't get to it with out getting first the grub screw lose. But I have already cut two allen keys down to try and get to the grub screw but can't get to it. Just not enough room
Any wise words of wisdom / help!
So these are my photos of the problem I have with the passengers side door mirror unit. it's broken off! Simple
So where to go from here?
1. Try and mend it as the previous owner tried to do?
2. Buy a new one - V. expensive?
3. Convert to VW Corrado. (I would really like to keep the car original though)
Your thoughts + suggestion guys / girls?
Here the mirror unit opened and you see the original repair-
On the underside of the repair. - You can see the extent of the broken ring as it was before. I don't think it was hanging on with much!
Here you can see the broken part and the little grub screw (indicated) that holds the "toadstool" on the door bos
On the underside of the "toadstool" is a screw but I can't get to it with out getting first the grub screw lose. But I have already cut two allen keys down to try and get to the grub screw but can't get to it. Just not enough room
Any wise words of wisdom / help!
the aluminium ring you can see with the elongated slots in it and the wires coming up through it is a threaded boss. if you make a punch with a rounded end you can undo it. its a r/h thread so tap it around anti-clockwise and it should undo. good luck they can try your patience but all part of the fun.
Either a pair of grips on the toadstool/base and twist it off or try to get a bar inbetween the holes to use as a lever to do the same. Buy another mirror off of ebay/breakers and swap all of your plastics over onto it, it's already been bodged once and not worth the hassle of repairing. I did mine a couple of months ago, found a 2nd hand mirror on ebay for £80. Doesn't matter if it's scratched/motor doesn't work/glass missing as you can swap it all over.
Edited by s p a c e m a n on Thursday 16th June 08:56
Given how/where it has broken & the fact it has already been repaired once and failed again, I would just replace the frame.
New frame £65 +VAT & Delivery - available Here
To get the the tripod off i followed the wisdom/guides available but the tripod just spun, I couldn't undo the grub screw to allow the tripod to come off in-situ, forcing the tripod off was a no go as well as it is made from the same "Monkey Metal" as the frame and would easily break when given any force. I tried tapping the collar round anti clockwise too but it was seized solid, lots of penetrant etc and still no joy.
I will try and describe the solution I came up with :-
Insert two heavy duty flat blade screwdrivers vertically into the slots in the collar, use some form of G-Clamp or Kwik Grip to hold the two screwdriver handles together, now insert another heavy duty flat blade screwdriver horizontally between the shafts of the two vertical screwdrivers, making a crude T-Bar now push down on the vertical screwdrivers and rotate the horizontal one anti-clockwise to break the lock on the collar.
With the lock broken you can now unwind the collar from the door with the tripod attached (take care not to twist the wiring too much).
Once the collar is off you can now get to the grub screw and remove it allowing the tripod to be removed from the collar, you can then use a decent allen key / torx driver in from the bottom of the tripod to undo the final bit of the broken frame from the tripod.
if any of this needs clarification, just ask ......
Best of luck
New frame £65 +VAT & Delivery - available Here
To get the the tripod off i followed the wisdom/guides available but the tripod just spun, I couldn't undo the grub screw to allow the tripod to come off in-situ, forcing the tripod off was a no go as well as it is made from the same "Monkey Metal" as the frame and would easily break when given any force. I tried tapping the collar round anti clockwise too but it was seized solid, lots of penetrant etc and still no joy.
I will try and describe the solution I came up with :-
Insert two heavy duty flat blade screwdrivers vertically into the slots in the collar, use some form of G-Clamp or Kwik Grip to hold the two screwdriver handles together, now insert another heavy duty flat blade screwdriver horizontally between the shafts of the two vertical screwdrivers, making a crude T-Bar now push down on the vertical screwdrivers and rotate the horizontal one anti-clockwise to break the lock on the collar.
With the lock broken you can now unwind the collar from the door with the tripod attached (take care not to twist the wiring too much).
Once the collar is off you can now get to the grub screw and remove it allowing the tripod to be removed from the collar, you can then use a decent allen key / torx driver in from the bottom of the tripod to undo the final bit of the broken frame from the tripod.
if any of this needs clarification, just ask ......
Best of luck
Edited by ukdj on Thursday 16th June 09:44
ukdj said:
Given how/where it has broken & the fact it has already been repaired once and failed again, I would just replace the frame.
New frame £65 +VAT & Delivery - available Here
To get the the tripod off i followed the wisdom/guides available but the tripod just spun, I couldn't undo the grub screw to allow the tripod to come off in-situ, forcing the tripod off was a no go as well as it is made from the same "Monkey Metal" as the frame and would easily break when given any force. I tried tapping the collar round anti clockwise too but it was seized solid, lots of penetrant etc and still no joy.
I will try and describe the solution I came up with :-
Insert two heavy duty flat blade screwdrivers vertically into the slots in the collar, use some form of G-Clamp or Kwik Grip to hold the two screwdriver handles together, now insert another heavy duty flat blade screwdriver horizontally between the shafts of the two vertical screwdrivers, making a crude T-Bar now push down on the vertical screwdrivers and rotate the horizontal one anti-clockwise to break the lock on the collar.
With the lock broken you can now unwind the collar from the door with the tripod attached (take care not to twist the wiring too much).
Once the collar is off you can now get to the grub screw and remove it allowing the tripod to be removed from the collar, you can then use a decent allen key / torx driver in from the bottom of the tripod to undo the final bit of the broken frame from the tripod.
if any of this needs clarification, just ask ......
Best of luck
Top description! New frame £65 +VAT & Delivery - available Here
To get the the tripod off i followed the wisdom/guides available but the tripod just spun, I couldn't undo the grub screw to allow the tripod to come off in-situ, forcing the tripod off was a no go as well as it is made from the same "Monkey Metal" as the frame and would easily break when given any force. I tried tapping the collar round anti clockwise too but it was seized solid, lots of penetrant etc and still no joy.
I will try and describe the solution I came up with :-
Insert two heavy duty flat blade screwdrivers vertically into the slots in the collar, use some form of G-Clamp or Kwik Grip to hold the two screwdriver handles together, now insert another heavy duty flat blade screwdriver horizontally between the shafts of the two vertical screwdrivers, making a crude T-Bar now push down on the vertical screwdrivers and rotate the horizontal one anti-clockwise to break the lock on the collar.
With the lock broken you can now unwind the collar from the door with the tripod attached (take care not to twist the wiring too much).
Once the collar is off you can now get to the grub screw and remove it allowing the tripod to be removed from the collar, you can then use a decent allen key / torx driver in from the bottom of the tripod to undo the final bit of the broken frame from the tripod.
if any of this needs clarification, just ask ......
Best of luck
Edited by ukdj on Thursday 16th June 09:44
I understand now how you did it. So I will try this myself.Thanks Simon.
If you are wanting a once and for all solution and are willing to spend a little (and fancy some mirrors without stone chips for the next few days), then Central TVR do a mark 3 mirror conversion, including fitting and spraying to your car's colour, for quite a reasonable price
http://www.centraltvr.com/product/vw-corrado-wing-...
http://www.centraltvr.com/product/vw-corrado-wing-...
Cheers guys for your answers.
I will try the two screw drivers + the twisting motion to get the Collar unscrewed from the Bonded boss in the car door (If I have that correct?) as suggested by "ukdj".
Then I will see what I do then. I think due to time and hopefully the good weather coming (crossed fingers) that I will order a new inner unit from RaceTech and have it sent over. Saving time and having then a complete "new" door mirror.
I will try the two screw drivers + the twisting motion to get the Collar unscrewed from the Bonded boss in the car door (If I have that correct?) as suggested by "ukdj".
Then I will see what I do then. I think due to time and hopefully the good weather coming (crossed fingers) that I will order a new inner unit from RaceTech and have it sent over. Saving time and having then a complete "new" door mirror.
SMB said:
if you take the speaker out of the door you can reach in and get to the electrical connector, the only issue is some idiot at TVR made the threaded hole smaller than the connector!
"Yep been there done that" You are correct of course.
But TVR could have made separate connections so that you could pull each wire through the screw threaded hole separately.
ukdj said:
Simon, are you going to the Belgium TVRCC summer run on the 26th ?
You won't believe it, but I have to be in Norway that weekend!! I'm P*****d off about it, the first time I have my TVR in Begium and I can't go to the "Ball".I feel like trowing a tantrum. (Oh I think I am %%$$##@@)
Small update:
I have managed to unscrew the tripod and collar from the boss in the door. As "ukdj" said above.
Here are some photos to illustrate and help others in the future with their "Broken Door Mirror" or "Lose Door Mirror" problem.
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I then found it easier to undo the cables at the mirror end than in the door.
First undo the three small torx screws (red arrows), then unplug the connector at the back.
The advantage of this is that you don't have the door mirror hanging down, and getting in the way.
Simon
I have managed to unscrew the tripod and collar from the boss in the door.
As "ukdj" said above.Here are some photos to illustrate and help others in the future with their "Broken Door Mirror" or "Lose Door Mirror" problem.
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I then found it easier to undo the cables at the mirror end than in the door.
First undo the three small torx screws (red arrows), then unplug the connector at the back.
The advantage of this is that you don't have the door mirror hanging down, and getting in the way.
Simon
Fitted these ....
Required modifications to the internal mounting frames to fit the contour of the door and drilling new holes in the door to take the mounting bolts.
Fibreon do an insert that fits in the standard mounting hole to take the corrado mirrors if you decide to go down that route instead.
Required modifications to the internal mounting frames to fit the contour of the door and drilling new holes in the door to take the mounting bolts.
Fibreon do an insert that fits in the standard mounting hole to take the corrado mirrors if you decide to go down that route instead.
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