Yellow stuff have to go

[SILICONEKID345HP]

I've come very close to smashing in to a back of a car a few times now. They are terrible until warm .What are the alternatives?

I want low dust , quick warm up time and be able to cope with a track day .

Edited by SILICONEKID345HP on Sunday 28th August 21:35

[darreni]

That's weird, I run yellows front & rear on my m3 & I'm very pleased with them, no noise great from cold, even better with some heat in them.

How's the rest of the brake system? Fluid, caliper pistons, slider pins?

[bobfather]

EBC is all about marketing, they spend nothing on product development, they just do market placement and race event stalls so that people will believe that their pads are something special. Google reveals the truth, no race teams use them

[QBee]

Mintex 1144
Hawk

[Oilchange]

Ferodo DS Uno. Amazing pads

[bobfather]

QBee said:

Mintex 1144
Hawk

Tried them, absolutely fantastic, incredible initial bite but I just couldn't live with the squeal. I put them back on for trackdays, etc.

Oilchange said:

Ferodo DS Uno. Amazing pads

This is what I use for normal use, constant feel regardless of temperature or humidity. Great pad, long life and relatively quiet

Edited by bobfather on Sunday 28th August 23:43

[s p a c e m a n]

Ferrodo ds2500. Hardly any dust, work from cold, more likely to boil your fluid before you get brake fade. They seem last ages too. Not cheap though, my mate had to ask twice before he picked them up from burtons for me, he though they were winding him up

[QBee]

My front Hawk pads don't squeal on my car.
I do get a fair amount of dust from the DS2500s on my rear brakes

[SILICONEKID345HP]

I have the later vented oe setup on the back and Hispec 283mm vented fronts .will i need to replace both sets ?

[SILICONEKID345HP]

Does anyone have part number for rear oe vented type brale pads in the Ferrodo DS uno.

[Oilchange]

Look here. I found my rears simply by comparing the dimensions of a second hand pad and skimming through the selection. Might be easier for you...

http://ecat.ferodoracing.com/index.php/car-racing/...

[SILICONEKID345HP]

Just found a new set of. Sstandard road Ferrodo rear pads in the garage so might fit them

The hispec calipers use Volvo pads . Im wondering if just to fit standard road pads front and rear .

Edited by SILICONEKID345HP on Monday 29th August 20:24

[ChimpOnGas]

SILICONEKID345HP said:

Just found a new set of. Sstandard road Ferrodo rear pads in the garage so might fit them

The hispec calipers use Volvo pads . Im wondering if just to fit standard road pads front and rear .

Edited by SILICONEKID345HP on Monday 29th August 20:24

Spot on Daz,

If you drive on the road 98% of the time... 98% of the time you're much better off with road pads.

I make no excuses for stating the obvious here, so many people get seduced into the track day pad thing then spend the vast majority of their time using the car on the road. A track day pad compound is a one trick pony, it does one thing well at the cost of all other elements desirable in a road pad... IE:

1. Working from cold
2. Low dust
3. Low noise
4. Disc life
5. Pad life
6. Cost

If you really don't care a jot about all the above six elements and shaving a few tenths off your lap times on your two to three track days a year is vitally important to you, then a track day pad may be desirable.

For everyone else, a road pad compound will always prove to be a better choice.

I went Brembo callipers, 324mm discs and a set of Brembo road pads... brilliant brakes with none of the downsides

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

No need for expensive, dusty, squealing track day pads that take ages to warm up, just progressive & repeatable massive stopping power from a set of totally amazing brakes

[SILICONEKID345HP]

The ferrodo oe quality road pads are going on the rears tomorrow and the fronts will be fitted to the same spec .I cant see anyone being able to over heat a good quality road pad while driving on the road .

I can slways swop the front pads if I do go on a trackday.

What fid TVR use on these cars ?

[QBee]

Chimpongas of course talks sense.
I do half a dozen track days a year.....plus about 5000 road miles.
I am to mechanics what you are to needlepoint.
So I don't want to be changing pads 12 times a year.
My Hawk pads are a road pad that won't fade under repeated heavy track braking.
Best of both worlds.

I get mine from Cambridge Motorsport. 01462 684300.
If you fancy trying them, call them and tell them what callipers you have and how you use the car, and they will specify the pad variant that will suit you best

[SILICONEKID345HP]

Whicv hawk pads do you use Antony ?

[QBee]

I'll have a look tomorrow Daz. They box is in an unlit shed.

[phazed]

SILICONEKID345HP said:

Whicv hawk pads do you use Antony ?

Anthony uses HP Plus for track and road but the street version would suit fine which I have used before.

Hawk HPS pads.
High friction/ torque hot or cold
Gentle on rotors
Provides consistent and controllable torque through temperature ranges compared to stock pads
Virtually noise free

Available from Cambridge Motorsport as said.

[Brerabit]

I fitted the new compound EBC RedStuff Ceramic pads around 3500 miles ago as part of a total brakes upgrade. The front callipers are Hi-Spec with 300 x 28mm grooved discs and the rears are re-manufactured (BigRedd) standard callipers on grooved ventilated 273mm discs. I agonised for quite a while over pads and eventually settled on the recently reformulated, EBC Redstuff Ceramic Pads.
I have no experience of the old formula RedStuff pads but am aware of the reported issues with warm-up and noise. The new ceramic pads have so far performed extremely well, providing prodigious stopping power from the get-go with no noise and no fade. There is a marginal improvement in their performance when hot but the difference is slight and certainly doesn’t imply that their cold performance is in any way compromised. They are claimed to be low dust which may be so, but driven hard, you will get dust. They also incorporate a sort of ‘running-in’ coating which ensures rapid bedding in.

EBC were claiming that in tests conducted at MIRA their new Redstuff Ceramic compound provides an improvement in stopping distances over OEM pads of at least 20-25%. This has since been reduced to a stated 15% (with a footnote that 15% is the maximum permitted under ECE R90 regulations)

Although I’ve not used them on the track, I recently took the car touring through France and Spain and one of the highlights of the trip was the N260 through northern Spain. During two, two hour stints on what is widely regarded as one of - if not the best driving road in Europe, I caned those brakes to the point where I was actually trying to induce fade, just to find out how much abuse they would take - and failed. They never showed the slightest hint of fade and for me, seem to be almost the perfect road pad.

So, based on my experience, I can only praise and recommend the new EBC Redstuff Ceramic pads.

[SILICONEKID345HP]

phazed said:

Anthony uses HP Plus for track and road but the street version would suit fine which I have used before.

Hawk HPS pads.
High friction/ torque hot or cold
Gentle on rotors
T consistent and controllable torque through temperature ranges compared to stock pads
Virtually noise free

Available from Cambridge Motorsport as said.

Red stuff are fast road snd the accasional trackday . Green stuff are not recommended for the TVR Chimaera .