TVR Parts Drop Links
Discussion
Considering the current deal at EuroCarParts (31% off using: "SAVEME") I ordered the following:
Qty: 1 632600025 Lemforder Anti-Roll Bar Link (Front Left)£ 20.99
Qty: 1 632600035 Lemforder Anti-Roll Bar Link (Front Right)£ 20.99
Qty: 1 632600115 Lemforder Anti-Roll Bar Link (Rear Left)£ 21.99
Qty: 1 632600125 Lemforder Anti-Roll Bar Link (Rear Right)£ 21.99
(Honda Accord 1997 2.0ltr Pet)
Then take the 31% off the above prices and free click and collect tomorrow from 10am. Hopefully I've got the right stuff for my '99 4.0ltr.
Qty: 1 632600025 Lemforder Anti-Roll Bar Link (Front Left)£ 20.99
Qty: 1 632600035 Lemforder Anti-Roll Bar Link (Front Right)£ 20.99
Qty: 1 632600115 Lemforder Anti-Roll Bar Link (Rear Left)£ 21.99
Qty: 1 632600125 Lemforder Anti-Roll Bar Link (Rear Right)£ 21.99
(Honda Accord 1997 2.0ltr Pet)
Then take the 31% off the above prices and free click and collect tomorrow from 10am. Hopefully I've got the right stuff for my '99 4.0ltr.
Edited by SHiggs121 on Friday 30th September 13:27
SILICONEKID345HP said:
Well my front and rear drop links came today .I went for the racetech ones .
Cant believe people are being so tight especialy when they don't even fit.
I am fed up giving all my money to Racetech. Having spent £500+ on their uprated poly bush kits, enough is enough. Cant believe people are being so tight especialy when they don't even fit.
They do fit, just a slight angle difference when there is no load on the suspension. Once the car is lowered back down this is reduced. As its a ball and socket set up, I can't see a problem and having driven mine I can't tell the difference other than its quieter.
SHiggs121 said:
Considering the current deal at EuroCarParts (31% off using: "SAVEME") I ordered the following:
Qty: 1 632600025 Lemforder Anti-Roll Bar Link (Front Left)£ 20.99
Qty: 1 632600035 Lemforder Anti-Roll Bar Link (Front Right)£ 20.99
Qty: 1 632600115 Lemforder Anti-Roll Bar Link (Rear Left)£ 21.99
Qty: 1 632600125 Lemforder Anti-Roll Bar Link (Rear Right)£ 21.99
(Honda Accord 1997 2.0ltr Pet)
Then take the 31% off the above prices and free click and collect tomorrow from 10am. Hopefully I've got the right stuff for my '99 4.0ltr.
The fronts are from the Accord. The rears should be from a Mondeo 2004 like these:Qty: 1 632600025 Lemforder Anti-Roll Bar Link (Front Left)£ 20.99
Qty: 1 632600035 Lemforder Anti-Roll Bar Link (Front Right)£ 20.99
Qty: 1 632600115 Lemforder Anti-Roll Bar Link (Rear Left)£ 21.99
Qty: 1 632600125 Lemforder Anti-Roll Bar Link (Rear Right)£ 21.99
(Honda Accord 1997 2.0ltr Pet)
Then take the 31% off the above prices and free click and collect tomorrow from 10am. Hopefully I've got the right stuff for my '99 4.0ltr.
Edited by SHiggs121 on Friday 30th September 13:27
http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Ford_Mondeo_2.0_...
Last year, during a Sprint I snapped a front drop link rendering the front ARB useless. The result was slightly strange handling at speed. It seemed that I could point the nose into a bend apply power and drift the rear round. Times were slightly worse although it was fun!
At another sprint I thought I would disconnect the ARB at the rear and try it out. It's hard to describe the handling but it felt weird and my times were slightly down.
So, for me running both front and rear ARBs for use at speed is an advantage.
This is while running Gaz Monos with 450/400 Spring setup, Leven fronts and Mondeo drop links.
At another sprint I thought I would disconnect the ARB at the rear and try it out. It's hard to describe the handling but it felt weird and my times were slightly down.
So, for me running both front and rear ARBs for use at speed is an advantage.
This is while running Gaz Monos with 450/400 Spring setup, Leven fronts and Mondeo drop links.
N7GTX said:
The fronts are from the Accord. The rears should be from a Mondeo 2004 like these:
http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Ford_Mondeo_2.0_...
Bugger - ok thanks, just ordered a pair of those:http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Ford_Mondeo_2.0_...
2x 632590095 Lemforder £47.98
(then with 31% off)
Can anyone clarify if the Mondeo droplinks are from a saloon or estate? My understanding is they should be from an estate?
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
ITVRI said:
Can anyone clarify if the Mondeo droplinks are from a saloon or estate? My understanding is they should be from an estate?
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
I purchased these Delphi ones for a Mk3 Mondeo estate 2000/2001...http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
They were £25 for a pair.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/391032867786?_trksid=p20...
I'm fitting them this weekend to continue my testing of all permutations, I'll try the car like this but still with no front anti roll bar and report back.
phazed said:
Last year, during a Sprint I snapped a front drop link rendering the front ARB useless. The result was slightly strange handling at speed. It seemed that I could point the nose into a bend apply power and drift the rear round. Times were slightly worse although it was fun!
At another sprint I thought I would disconnect the ARB at the rear and try it out. It's hard to describe the handling but it felt weird and my times were slightly down.
So, for me running both front and rear ARBs for use at speed is an advantage.
This is while running Gaz Monos with 450/400 Spring setup, Leven fronts and Mondeo drop links.
Good feedback Peter At another sprint I thought I would disconnect the ARB at the rear and try it out. It's hard to describe the handling but it felt weird and my times were slightly down.
So, for me running both front and rear ARBs for use at speed is an advantage.
This is while running Gaz Monos with 450/400 Spring setup, Leven fronts and Mondeo drop links.
The track is of course a very different thing to the road, from Peters feedback it seems the roll bar is clearly doing something but if you need to be at ten tenths to feel just a slight difference and on the road the ride is more compliant without the bars then I may still end up running no ARBs at all.
Dave.
Ok guys, Mondeo estate rear drop links fitted.... and they work well with no ARB bending required.
The beauty of these drop links is they are double jointed, that is there's a ball joint at each end allowing a lot more articulation. Compare this with the rigid rod design of the originals (or even the Ractech ones) and it seems to me the Mondeo links will be significantly kinder on the wishbone ARB bracket which as we know cracks unless you fit the significantly beefed up version.
It strikes me the standard brackets only break because they are under some seriously punishing loads, I wouldn't mind betting the standard bracket would never break if a double jointed drop link had been chosen in the first place. So a massive thanks to Peter (Phazed) for sharing the Mondeo estate drop links idea
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I'm now running rebuilt Gaz Gold Pros on the rear with Mondeo links, and old Billies on the front but no drop links. I took 'Ol Gasbag' out for a good thrapping like this and to my surprise there were no new noises, so in that respect it's just like the no drop link set up I've been running for the last week.
But the handling has changed, tip the car into a bend and up to a point it's very neutral just like the no drop link set up, but there comes a point if you're really pushing it where the car now quite abruptly turns into the bend more aggressively like you've sharply put another few degrees of steering input in
This was quite unnerving when it first happened given my steering input remained consistent, its almost like the rear kicked out but I'm sure it didn't, perhaps it's just the nose of the car tucking in when the rear lent on the ARB? Whatever it is, it's repeatable... time and time again the car would feel nice & neutral in a rapid corner, then mid bend it would quite suddenly tighten up my chosen line without me asking for it?
Does this condition ring any bells with people who regularly track their TVR, if so perhaps you can explain exactly what's happening?
The other things I noted after fitting the Mondeo rear links were:
1. The rear feels marginally less compliant
2. The rear feels tauter and generally more connected
3. The under steer that presented itself as front tyre squeal during spirited cornering has gone
4. There are no new noises since going from no rear links to fitting the Mondeo links
I'll run the car like this for another week then fit the Honda front drop links to see how bringing the front ARB back into play affects the handling.
The beauty of these drop links is they are double jointed, that is there's a ball joint at each end allowing a lot more articulation. Compare this with the rigid rod design of the originals (or even the Ractech ones) and it seems to me the Mondeo links will be significantly kinder on the wishbone ARB bracket which as we know cracks unless you fit the significantly beefed up version.
It strikes me the standard brackets only break because they are under some seriously punishing loads, I wouldn't mind betting the standard bracket would never break if a double jointed drop link had been chosen in the first place. So a massive thanks to Peter (Phazed) for sharing the Mondeo estate drop links idea
. I'm now running rebuilt Gaz Gold Pros on the rear with Mondeo links, and old Billies on the front but no drop links. I took 'Ol Gasbag' out for a good thrapping like this and to my surprise there were no new noises, so in that respect it's just like the no drop link set up I've been running for the last week.
But the handling has changed, tip the car into a bend and up to a point it's very neutral just like the no drop link set up, but there comes a point if you're really pushing it where the car now quite abruptly turns into the bend more aggressively like you've sharply put another few degrees of steering input in
This was quite unnerving when it first happened given my steering input remained consistent, its almost like the rear kicked out but I'm sure it didn't, perhaps it's just the nose of the car tucking in when the rear lent on the ARB? Whatever it is, it's repeatable... time and time again the car would feel nice & neutral in a rapid corner, then mid bend it would quite suddenly tighten up my chosen line without me asking for it?
Does this condition ring any bells with people who regularly track their TVR, if so perhaps you can explain exactly what's happening?
The other things I noted after fitting the Mondeo rear links were:
1. The rear feels marginally less compliant
2. The rear feels tauter and generally more connected
3. The under steer that presented itself as front tyre squeal during spirited cornering has gone
4. There are no new noises since going from no rear links to fitting the Mondeo links
I'll run the car like this for another week then fit the Honda front drop links to see how bringing the front ARB back into play affects the handling.
Front droplinks - just to add to the confusion, I have just purchased the Honda Accord droplinks (Febest 0323-010 FRONT LEFT & RIGHT STABILISER LINK / SWAY BAR LINK Model: HONDA ACCORD CL# 2002-2008 OEM: 51321-S84-A01). Ebay reference:- http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/181802084758?_trksid=p2...
From the attached snapshot , left and right hand, they are quite different to the originals - attachment threads have opposing angles? Also 1 cm shorter in length?
They would not appear to 'slip' straight on?
From the attached snapshot , left and right hand, they are quite different to the originals - attachment threads have opposing angles? Also 1 cm shorter in length?
They would not appear to 'slip' straight on?
Today I fitted a set of new bottom ball joints and the Honda Accord drop links.
Discovered the lift I found last week on the O/S lower ball joint was as much a to do with a loosening nut as it was wear, but the two new joints sourced from Dom at Powers Performance were fitted anyway. I then discovered I'd been given four long bolts and two shorts when it should have been two long and four shorts, so I needed to recycle 2 of my original short bolts
I then noticed the front anti roll bar wasn't correctly centred, actually it was quite a bit unequal so I loosened the ARB bush bracket bolts, squirted some GT85 in there and wiggled the bar in and out until it was centralised.
With the ARB centralised and the bush bracket bolts tightened the Honda Accord drop links slid in like they were made for the car, this time with the ball joints facing forward and the nuts to the rear.
I then went for a drive and it became clear those new ball joints were indeed needed, the steering immediately felt tighter & more direct. With the front ARB now centred and connected for the first time in a few weeks the car definitely felt more connected, the combination of reconditioned Gaz Gold pros on the rear with the Mondeo links and my old Billies on the front but with new lower ball joints and the Accord links acting on a properly centralised ARB has worked wonders.
So I started all this with totally feked rear Gaz Gold Pros (leaking & bent rod), worn out & lose lower ball joints and very knackered rose jointed Leven drop links front & rear.
I spent £90 on the rear Gaz Gold Pro rebuild, £60 on the lower ball joints, £25 on the Mondeo rear drop links, £15 on the Accord front drop links & £0 on my old front Billies. So for less than £200 I've eliminated all the nasty suspension noises, wayward handling and feeling of slightly disconnected steering, the car no longer tramlines on white lines or skips about over pot holes.
The only thing I don't like is I've lost my forward rake because my old front Billies aren't ride height adjustable, so I'm still committed to the Ben Lang Tuscan 2 Bilsteins with their circlip ride height adjustment feature. I've also come to the conclusion rose joints on drop links or coil overs are not for me.
One last step to go and with Ben Lang's help I'm confident I'll finally get the perfect set up for my needs, fingers crossed
Discovered the lift I found last week on the O/S lower ball joint was as much a to do with a loosening nut as it was wear, but the two new joints sourced from Dom at Powers Performance were fitted anyway. I then discovered I'd been given four long bolts and two shorts when it should have been two long and four shorts, so I needed to recycle 2 of my original short bolts
I then noticed the front anti roll bar wasn't correctly centred, actually it was quite a bit unequal so I loosened the ARB bush bracket bolts, squirted some GT85 in there and wiggled the bar in and out until it was centralised.
With the ARB centralised and the bush bracket bolts tightened the Honda Accord drop links slid in like they were made for the car, this time with the ball joints facing forward and the nuts to the rear.
I then went for a drive and it became clear those new ball joints were indeed needed, the steering immediately felt tighter & more direct. With the front ARB now centred and connected for the first time in a few weeks the car definitely felt more connected, the combination of reconditioned Gaz Gold pros on the rear with the Mondeo links and my old Billies on the front but with new lower ball joints and the Accord links acting on a properly centralised ARB has worked wonders.
So I started all this with totally feked rear Gaz Gold Pros (leaking & bent rod), worn out & lose lower ball joints and very knackered rose jointed Leven drop links front & rear.
I spent £90 on the rear Gaz Gold Pro rebuild, £60 on the lower ball joints, £25 on the Mondeo rear drop links, £15 on the Accord front drop links & £0 on my old front Billies. So for less than £200 I've eliminated all the nasty suspension noises, wayward handling and feeling of slightly disconnected steering, the car no longer tramlines on white lines or skips about over pot holes.
The only thing I don't like is I've lost my forward rake because my old front Billies aren't ride height adjustable, so I'm still committed to the Ben Lang Tuscan 2 Bilsteins with their circlip ride height adjustment feature. I've also come to the conclusion rose joints on drop links or coil overs are not for me.
One last step to go and with Ben Lang's help I'm confident I'll finally get the perfect set up for my needs, fingers crossed
Honda Accord 2.0 litre petrol 2001 model for the fronts:
lefthand front:
http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Honda_Accord_2.0...
righthand front:
http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Honda_Accord_2.0...
Rears - Mondeo Estate 2.0 petrol 2003 model for the rears - you need 2 of these:
http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Ford_Mondeo_2.0_...
The links show you what you need. I got the dearer Lemforder ones for better quality. If you get them from Euro use the discount code sale25 for 25% off. They are cheaper if you search online.
lefthand front:
http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Honda_Accord_2.0...
righthand front:
http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Honda_Accord_2.0...
Rears - Mondeo Estate 2.0 petrol 2003 model for the rears - you need 2 of these:
http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Ford_Mondeo_2.0_...
The links show you what you need. I got the dearer Lemforder ones for better quality. If you get them from Euro use the discount code sale25 for 25% off. They are cheaper if you search online.
I've been running these links for a month now and have put 1,100 miles on them in this time, they're working great so far.
Way less noisy than rose jointed links and far cheaper, they are also significantly cheaper than similar offerings from TVR Parts ect.
I went with Delphi rears:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/391032867786?_trksid=p20...
And Febi Bilstein on the front:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/351588553131?_trksid=p20...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/351588580801?_trksid=p20...
Total cost £44.67.
I've got no idea how long they'll last but I suspect they'll hold out just as long (if not longer) than the originals, if they need to be replaced every 20,000 at lest its less than £50 for all four instead of the ridiculous prices others are charging.
I think we should all say a big thanks to Phased (Peter) and the others who spent time & money finding out what fitted and worked on the Chimaera
Drop links are consumable parts that seem to have a particularly hard life on our cars demanding frequent replacement, being able to buy a full set for realistic money helps us all keep our Chimaeras on the road and handling as they should.
Way less noisy than rose jointed links and far cheaper, they are also significantly cheaper than similar offerings from TVR Parts ect.
I went with Delphi rears:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/391032867786?_trksid=p20...
And Febi Bilstein on the front:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/351588553131?_trksid=p20...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/351588580801?_trksid=p20...
Total cost £44.67.
I've got no idea how long they'll last but I suspect they'll hold out just as long (if not longer) than the originals, if they need to be replaced every 20,000 at lest its less than £50 for all four instead of the ridiculous prices others are charging.
I think we should all say a big thanks to Phased (Peter) and the others who spent time & money finding out what fitted and worked on the Chimaera
Drop links are consumable parts that seem to have a particularly hard life on our cars demanding frequent replacement, being able to buy a full set for realistic money helps us all keep our Chimaeras on the road and handling as they should.
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