Chim v Cerb Dilemma
Discussion
So here I am with a Chim 400, the car of my dreams for some 20 odd years, yet my minds spinning on which way to go. Therefore I could really do with some good solid advice from the guys on here with plenty more years in Tvr than me.
I've owned her for a year now after moving from an S...spending plenty on the S to bring her up and a damn sight more on the Chim doing the inside,cam,coil overs, cooling and much more. Don't get me wrong I've enjoyed the journey so far immensely but I can't keeping throwing thousands at cars if I'm not going to keep hold. I had to go this route as despite opportunities over the years to buy a Chim first the money always needed to go elsewhere and I could never pull enough together at one point to go straight in.
So my problem is seeing a couple of Cerbs in the flesh in recent weeks and I'm hooked. The general consensus with mates is that I'm mad to be selling my pretty sorted dream car for one thats arguably more complicated and vastly more expensive to own, but the idea is still in my mind.
The Chim flew through the MOT but the chassis has got surface rust in places and although I've treated and painted the outriggers and all seems very solid everywhere, my next job was body off. I posted on the S forum the other day about Chassis obsession and ridiculously low prices on some TVR's but I'm struggling to decide on whether to do any of the following or if I'm just being an idiot.
Chassis refurb- should I do it if I'm going to change up...it will make it more saleable obviously but I can't see myself recouping what I've spent even to this stage.
Move to a Cerb full stop?
I'm now thinking I should probably be posting this in the general tvr forum as I'm writing but I may as well finish as I'm nearing the end of boring you all stupid
Is this just a normal part of Tvr ownership?...I mean I love driving her, shes a great car and nothing else but a Tvr is for me...its just the bleeding Cerb has taken the edge off.
Anyone else had itchy feet changing from a Chim and what was the outcome....good or bad?
I'm not expecting anyone to show me the way forward, I'm big enough and ugly enough to do that myself, but any experience, thoughts or ideas very welcome.
Cheers.
I've owned her for a year now after moving from an S...spending plenty on the S to bring her up and a damn sight more on the Chim doing the inside,cam,coil overs, cooling and much more. Don't get me wrong I've enjoyed the journey so far immensely but I can't keeping throwing thousands at cars if I'm not going to keep hold. I had to go this route as despite opportunities over the years to buy a Chim first the money always needed to go elsewhere and I could never pull enough together at one point to go straight in.
So my problem is seeing a couple of Cerbs in the flesh in recent weeks and I'm hooked. The general consensus with mates is that I'm mad to be selling my pretty sorted dream car for one thats arguably more complicated and vastly more expensive to own, but the idea is still in my mind.
The Chim flew through the MOT but the chassis has got surface rust in places and although I've treated and painted the outriggers and all seems very solid everywhere, my next job was body off. I posted on the S forum the other day about Chassis obsession and ridiculously low prices on some TVR's but I'm struggling to decide on whether to do any of the following or if I'm just being an idiot.
Chassis refurb- should I do it if I'm going to change up...it will make it more saleable obviously but I can't see myself recouping what I've spent even to this stage.
Move to a Cerb full stop?
I'm now thinking I should probably be posting this in the general tvr forum as I'm writing but I may as well finish as I'm nearing the end of boring you all stupid
Is this just a normal part of Tvr ownership?...I mean I love driving her, shes a great car and nothing else but a Tvr is for me...its just the bleeding Cerb has taken the edge off.
Anyone else had itchy feet changing from a Chim and what was the outcome....good or bad?
I'm not expecting anyone to show me the way forward, I'm big enough and ugly enough to do that myself, but any experience, thoughts or ideas very welcome.
Cheers.
I was having this same dilemma a year or so ago. But the added 'bork' factor of the Cerb and the fact they are hard top meant I have kept with the Chimaera, as I hardly ever have the roof on it and love the open top experience. I looked at Tuscans too but sat in one and didn't feel at home, plus again the potential added expenses. I have decided to keep and upgrade my Chimaera.
Also if your chassis is solid but with just surface rust that you have treated, I would just leave it be. If it doesn't need doing it seems like a lot of money and heartache for little gain. Spend the money on fun go faster bits
Also if your chassis is solid but with just surface rust that you have treated, I would just leave it be. If it doesn't need doing it seems like a lot of money and heartache for little gain. Spend the money on fun go faster bits
I agree with Ace of H. Roof off is important to me, and while an immaculate Cerb appeals (for example, Nick Fisher looks like he is putting his up for sale - see Faceache), the fact is that Cerbs break expensively with frightening regularity, and you need a can opener to get the roof off.
Once I have stopped doing track days, it would be a shiny bright coloured Tuscan that I would be eyeing up.
Once I have stopped doing track days, it would be a shiny bright coloured Tuscan that I would be eyeing up.
Yeah but a Cerb is the ultimate Tvr for many, an itch that won't go away,
I'd go and drive one,, or two, both engine types, try a standard not modded car, try a good 500 Chim, you'll stop this nonsense and stay with the Chim
Joking aside, similar chassis and body,
Electrics,,,, if that don't frighten you
Original early engined cars can go bang,,
A sorted Cerb,, if that exists, must be some mega toy,,,
It depends what you want from the car and how you aim to use it,
I'd budget 3X what we might spend keeping or Chims road worthy but it probably costs similar if it's reliable.
I believe Chim/griff owners are the happiest with their cars, easy to live with, useable,
Something reassuring about the old RV8 lump and things like that go deep. If your Chim isn't dramatic enough test a good 450 or 500 with a known power figure and in all reality on most occasions it will feel just as fast as a Cerb.
What may well swing it is just how absolutely dramatic a Cerb feels just walking near them, sitting behind that mad dash, but you just get used to it and it becomes normal, unreliability or having to do expensive repairs might dull the feeling somewhat.
I think a Carb is for when you've got money to burn, then you can enjoy them without fear.
A Chim /Griff is the most reliable Tvr in my opinion, not hugely expensive to put right, and can do almost all a Cerb can do with the right Mods and engine.
If I could afford to own a Cerb I'd have one over the Chim because it's so iconic,,, but probably regret it and come back to the rumble of our V8 monsters
I'd go and drive one,, or two, both engine types, try a standard not modded car, try a good 500 Chim, you'll stop this nonsense and stay with the Chim
Joking aside, similar chassis and body,
Electrics,,,, if that don't frighten you
Original early engined cars can go bang,,
A sorted Cerb,, if that exists, must be some mega toy,,,
It depends what you want from the car and how you aim to use it,
I'd budget 3X what we might spend keeping or Chims road worthy but it probably costs similar if it's reliable.
I believe Chim/griff owners are the happiest with their cars, easy to live with, useable,
Something reassuring about the old RV8 lump and things like that go deep. If your Chim isn't dramatic enough test a good 450 or 500 with a known power figure and in all reality on most occasions it will feel just as fast as a Cerb.
What may well swing it is just how absolutely dramatic a Cerb feels just walking near them, sitting behind that mad dash, but you just get used to it and it becomes normal, unreliability or having to do expensive repairs might dull the feeling somewhat.
I think a Carb is for when you've got money to burn, then you can enjoy them without fear.
A Chim /Griff is the most reliable Tvr in my opinion, not hugely expensive to put right, and can do almost all a Cerb can do with the right Mods and engine.
If I could afford to own a Cerb I'd have one over the Chim because it's so iconic,,, but probably regret it and come back to the rumble of our V8 monsters
Some good points here already guys thanks.
The sensible money says keep and modify or go the Chim 500 route, I like the Griff as well but the additional cost over a Chim 500 is unjustified IMHO. I suppose my concern is that if I do either of those I'll still find myself thinking the same 6 months down the line. I thought very seriously of SC or turbo but I think I'd rather stay na if I decided on this and buying a 500 straight seems the cheaper option albeit Mine is well sorted.
I can't believe I said this the other week (and I apologise for any offence that may be caused by my next comment) ......"compared to the Cerb the rest look Mickey mouse"!
Agree with the comments about reliability of the Cerb, what with the dodgy early cast cranks and over complicated electrics....coupled with the many cautious and knowledgable TVR enthusiasts steering clear its not looking like one of my brightest ideas! I didn't realise that the engine was that unreliable though....an original factory speed six yes but not the AJP?
I do take the roof off most of the time and enjoy it but I've been spoiled with convertibles in recent times so I think for at least now, it's not quite so important to me.
My 400 is....in standard form at least.....as good as it gets and it's fast, but yes maybe part of this madness is wanting more dynamic performance...I still look at the Chim and think it's a beautiful car (despite the stupid comment above) so when you pretty much all say go for or at least try the 500 I've got to take that seriously before committing financial suicide.
Anyone in the Essex area who wouldn't mind taking me for a quick blast in a 500 so I can feel the difference? I think that may be a good starting point and may focus the mind and might (no guarantees) stop all the silliness I'm not sure I should even get in a Cerb.
The sensible money says keep and modify or go the Chim 500 route, I like the Griff as well but the additional cost over a Chim 500 is unjustified IMHO. I suppose my concern is that if I do either of those I'll still find myself thinking the same 6 months down the line. I thought very seriously of SC or turbo but I think I'd rather stay na if I decided on this and buying a 500 straight seems the cheaper option albeit Mine is well sorted.
I can't believe I said this the other week (and I apologise for any offence that may be caused by my next comment) ......"compared to the Cerb the rest look Mickey mouse"!
Agree with the comments about reliability of the Cerb, what with the dodgy early cast cranks and over complicated electrics....coupled with the many cautious and knowledgable TVR enthusiasts steering clear its not looking like one of my brightest ideas! I didn't realise that the engine was that unreliable though....an original factory speed six yes but not the AJP?
I do take the roof off most of the time and enjoy it but I've been spoiled with convertibles in recent times so I think for at least now, it's not quite so important to me.
My 400 is....in standard form at least.....as good as it gets and it's fast, but yes maybe part of this madness is wanting more dynamic performance...I still look at the Chim and think it's a beautiful car (despite the stupid comment above) so when you pretty much all say go for or at least try the 500 I've got to take that seriously before committing financial suicide.
Anyone in the Essex area who wouldn't mind taking me for a quick blast in a 500 so I can feel the difference? I think that may be a good starting point and may focus the mind and might (no guarantees) stop all the silliness
I'm not sure I should even get in a Cerb.Agree with the reliability comment as well as feeling confident in your motor.... Since I've sorted everything cooling, engine and hot start problem the experience is so much sweeter.......reliability changes everything with a car and makes owning a TVR even more fantastic...so massively important!
Not a Chim 500 but a Cerb owner here, I am at Snetterton on Monday, why not pop up and jump in the passenger seat for a few laps and see what you think.
The Cerb is a completely different car to the Chim, the V8 is pretty bullet proof but the T5 gearbox can have trouble handling the power on tap. The electrics are quirky but not massively complicated to work out.
Do drop by if you can., to my mind the Cerb is the best compromise with regard to roof as well with the whole side open but still with the cover of a roof it is much less tiring on a long pan Europe run foe example and the air conditioning is really quite effective if it is really hot and you want the windows up.
The Cerb is a completely different car to the Chim, the V8 is pretty bullet proof but the T5 gearbox can have trouble handling the power on tap. The electrics are quirky but not massively complicated to work out.
Do drop by if you can., to my mind the Cerb is the best compromise with regard to roof as well with the whole side open but still with the cover of a roof it is much less tiring on a long pan Europe run foe example and the air conditioning is really quite effective if it is really hot and you want the windows up.
gruffalo said:
Not a Chim 500 but a Cerb owner here, I am at Snetterton on Monday, why not pop up and jump in the passenger seat for a few laps and see what you think.
The Cerb is a completely different car to the Chim, the V8 is pretty bullet proof but the T5 gearbox can have trouble handling the power on tap. The electrics are quirky but not massively complicated to work out.
Do drop by if you can., to my mind the Cerb is the best compromise with regard to roof as well with the whole side open but still with the cover of a roof it is much less tiring on a long pan Europe run foe example and the air conditioning is really quite effective if it is really hot and you want the windows up.
And just when it's all starting to fall into place The Cerb is a completely different car to the Chim, the V8 is pretty bullet proof but the T5 gearbox can have trouble handling the power on tap. The electrics are quirky but not massively complicated to work out.
Do drop by if you can., to my mind the Cerb is the best compromise with regard to roof as well with the whole side open but still with the cover of a roof it is much less tiring on a long pan Europe run foe example and the air conditioning is really quite effective if it is really hot and you want the windows up.
I heard something about 3rd and 5th being weak...don't know if that's right? I like the set up with the top and one larger window, the air con is a bonus.
Good to hear from a Cerb owner and a great offer as well which I'd jump at but I have a meeting and Tender to get out on Monday so I'm stuffed. Seriously though please let me know the next time and I'm there!
Cheers for the offer Gruffalo.
I agree on prices being lower now. Back in May they were much higher.
Perhaps its the normal trend? Start of summer prices up/and end of summer prices down.
I wouldn't take the body off unless you have to. For me jacking the car up on all 6 outrigger points is the litmus test. Rather do that than find out at speed there's a chassis weakness.
There's an awful lot to be said for reliability and not chasing gremlins in a car which will drive you potty. I suppose a case of careful what you wish for..
Perhaps its the normal trend? Start of summer prices up/and end of summer prices down.
I wouldn't take the body off unless you have to. For me jacking the car up on all 6 outrigger points is the litmus test. Rather do that than find out at speed there's a chassis weakness.
There's an awful lot to be said for reliability and not chasing gremlins in a car which will drive you potty. I suppose a case of careful what you wish for..
Gruffalo should know about the gearbox - his let go of its input shaft at Snetterton a couple of years ago, leaving him with just 4th gear at 10.30 am on a nice, TVR-rich, track day.
But he took the opportunity to upgrade to a TVR Power 4.7 engine, IIRC, so you certainly will be stunned by the performance if you go.
But do bear in mind that being able to use all that straight line speed on the public road is rare, and Cerberas only corner as well as a Chimaera.
If you want to see how well a 230 bhp, standard engined 4 litre Chimaera performs at Oulton Park, against a 400-450 bhp AJP engined Tuscan Racer, have a gander at this......
https://youtu.be/z7Sz5H8Z4Dg
So by all means spend your money, I would, but just be aware that you may not gain as much as you expect. My dream TVR would be a Tuscan with a V8 up front, but that's because I love the utterly wacky design combined with a removable hard top. And I wouldn't be buying it because it goes faster than my nicely sorted Chim 500, because it probably won't in any meaningful way.
But he took the opportunity to upgrade to a TVR Power 4.7 engine, IIRC, so you certainly will be stunned by the performance if you go.
But do bear in mind that being able to use all that straight line speed on the public road is rare, and Cerberas only corner as well as a Chimaera.
If you want to see how well a 230 bhp, standard engined 4 litre Chimaera performs at Oulton Park, against a 400-450 bhp AJP engined Tuscan Racer, have a gander at this......
https://youtu.be/z7Sz5H8Z4Dg
So by all means spend your money, I would, but just be aware that you may not gain as much as you expect. My dream TVR would be a Tuscan with a V8 up front, but that's because I love the utterly wacky design combined with a removable hard top. And I wouldn't be buying it because it goes faster than my nicely sorted Chim 500, because it probably won't in any meaningful way.
PhilH42 said:
gruffalo said:
Not a Chim 500 but a Cerb owner here, I am at Snetterton on Monday, why not pop up and jump in the passenger seat for a few laps and see what you think.
The Cerb is a completely different car to the Chim, the V8 is pretty bullet proof but the T5 gearbox can have trouble handling the power on tap. The electrics are quirky but not massively complicated to work out.
Do drop by if you can., to my mind the Cerb is the best compromise with regard to roof as well with the whole side open but still with the cover of a roof it is much less tiring on a long pan Europe run foe example and the air conditioning is really quite effective if it is really hot and you want the windows up.
And just when it's all starting to fall into place The Cerb is a completely different car to the Chim, the V8 is pretty bullet proof but the T5 gearbox can have trouble handling the power on tap. The electrics are quirky but not massively complicated to work out.
Do drop by if you can., to my mind the Cerb is the best compromise with regard to roof as well with the whole side open but still with the cover of a roof it is much less tiring on a long pan Europe run foe example and the air conditioning is really quite effective if it is really hot and you want the windows up.
I heard something about 3rd and 5th being weak...don't know if that's right? I like the set up with the top and one larger window, the air con is a bonus.
Good to hear from a Cerb owner and a great offer as well which I'd jump at but I have a meeting and Tender to get out on Monday so I'm stuffed. Seriously though please let me know the next time and I'm there!
Cheers for the offer Gruffalo.
Seriously, If you want a meet up in October I should be about..
Chilli
Have read and agree with most of the comments. For me like many, my Sunday/hobby car has to be a roof off jobby as you just can't beat it and love the sound of the V8.
I have owned my car(Chimaera 400) for 6 years now and have been through the same torment as you, i would go and look at cars for sale and test drive them and to be honest Cerbs didn't impress me(my personal opinion) but come away uninspired due to the condition and price as mine is a very tidy car, but when i actually sat down and thought about it and weighed up engine rebuilds, and reliability issues compaired to the Chimaera and what i had already spent to get it where it was at the time, i realised what i had got and what i wanted from my car, which was a bit more power. So i decided after going in a couple of modded cars to upgrade and go for a Turbo installation, ECU, Intercooler the works.
Now the car has the power and is everything i want so i am happy as larry with it and its a keeper.
So think long and hard and drive the cars, also nip across to the Cerbera forum and have a read, can you afford the extra expense and upkeep
I have owned my car(Chimaera 400) for 6 years now and have been through the same torment as you, i would go and look at cars for sale and test drive them and to be honest Cerbs didn't impress me(my personal opinion) but come away uninspired due to the condition and price as mine is a very tidy car, but when i actually sat down and thought about it and weighed up engine rebuilds, and reliability issues compaired to the Chimaera and what i had already spent to get it where it was at the time, i realised what i had got and what i wanted from my car, which was a bit more power. So i decided after going in a couple of modded cars to upgrade and go for a Turbo installation, ECU, Intercooler the works.
Now the car has the power and is everything i want so i am happy as larry with it and its a keeper.
So think long and hard and drive the cars, also nip across to the Cerbera forum and have a read, can you afford the extra expense and upkeep
Chilli, you came out in the car before the work on the car was started so it was pretty standard apart from the Nitron dampers.
The engine was done by STR8SIX the Quaif gearbox and diff conversions were done by Readman Racing and needed to be done to handle the extra power STR8SIX got out of the V8 AJP which is now very impressive.
The Cerb has a longer wheelbase than the Chim and quite a few other differences that lead to it being a very stable platform and very predictable near the limit, seems to send you a telegram before it finally lets go and when it does it is very controllable.
The engine was done by STR8SIX the Quaif gearbox and diff conversions were done by Readman Racing and needed to be done to handle the extra power STR8SIX got out of the V8 AJP which is now very impressive.
The Cerb has a longer wheelbase than the Chim and quite a few other differences that lead to it being a very stable platform and very predictable near the limit, seems to send you a telegram before it finally lets go and when it does it is very controllable.
gruffalo said:
Chilli, you came out in the car before the work on the car was started so it was pretty standard apart from the Nitron dampers.
The engine was done by STR8SIX the Quaif gearbox and diff conversions were done by Readman Racing and needed to be done to handle the extra power STR8SIX got out of the V8 AJP which is now very impressive.
The Cerb has a longer wheelbase than the Chim and quite a few other differences that lead to it being a very stable platform and very predictable near the limit, seems to send you a telegram before it finally lets go and when it does it is very controllable.
Also at Donny on the 10th Oct as is QBee so that maybe an opportunity as well.The engine was done by STR8SIX the Quaif gearbox and diff conversions were done by Readman Racing and needed to be done to handle the extra power STR8SIX got out of the V8 AJP which is now very impressive.
The Cerb has a longer wheelbase than the Chim and quite a few other differences that lead to it being a very stable platform and very predictable near the limit, seems to send you a telegram before it finally lets go and when it does it is very controllable.
davetripletvr said:
Have read and agree with most of the comments. For me like many, my Sunday/hobby car has to be a roof off jobby as you just can't beat it and love the sound of the V8.
I have owned my car(Chimaera 400) for 6 years now and have been through the same torment as you, i would go and look at cars for sale and test drive them and to be honest Cerbs didn't impress me(my personal opinion) but come away uninspired due to the condition and price as mine is a very tidy car, but when i actually sat down and thought about it and weighed up engine rebuilds, and reliability issues compaired to the Chimaera and what i had already spent to get it where it was at the time, i realised what i had got and what i wanted from my car, which was a bit more power. So i decided after going in a couple of modded cars to upgrade and go for a Turbo installation, ECU, Intercooler the works.
Now the car has the power and is everything i want so i am happy as larry with it and its a keeper.
So think long and hard and drive the cars, also nip across to the Cerbera forum and have a read, can you afford the extra expense and upkeep
Thats interesting about the Cerb...I'd only seen photos and video and was not getting what all the fuss was about but in the flesh I loved the things.I have owned my car(Chimaera 400) for 6 years now and have been through the same torment as you, i would go and look at cars for sale and test drive them and to be honest Cerbs didn't impress me(my personal opinion) but come away uninspired due to the condition and price as mine is a very tidy car, but when i actually sat down and thought about it and weighed up engine rebuilds, and reliability issues compaired to the Chimaera and what i had already spent to get it where it was at the time, i realised what i had got and what i wanted from my car, which was a bit more power. So i decided after going in a couple of modded cars to upgrade and go for a Turbo installation, ECU, Intercooler the works.
Now the car has the power and is everything i want so i am happy as larry with it and its a keeper.
So think long and hard and drive the cars, also nip across to the Cerbera forum and have a read, can you afford the extra expense and upkeep
How do you get over MOT time, cat down the line? swap it about? or bribe the tester?
Did you go to Eann or Dom for yours?I can't get away from how the Cerb looks but I am thinking if I had the extra power it would give me a welcome and deserved slap round the chops every time I considered straying!
A good friend of mine ran a Cerbera for many years. It was always waaaay pricier to run than our Chimaera 450.
Noticeably more powerful, mind. I got the chance to drive it and it was a magnificent experience.
Either of these cars are money pits. In fact any TVR is going to be a money pit....at some point. I know our Chim has gone through periods of incredible reliability and periods of awful s
teness in seventeen years of ownership.
Enjoy the car that floats your boat, that you can afford to patch up. And OBVIOUSLY it has to be a garage queen coming out for highdays and holidays (but regularly, though, they need use).
Noticeably more powerful, mind. I got the chance to drive it and it was a magnificent experience.
Either of these cars are money pits. In fact any TVR is going to be a money pit....at some point. I know our Chim has gone through periods of incredible reliability and periods of awful s
teness in seventeen years of ownership.Enjoy the car that floats your boat, that you can afford to patch up. And OBVIOUSLY it has to be a garage queen coming out for highdays and holidays (but regularly, though, they need use).
I had a Cerb for 5 years (the longest I have had ANY car) and I have a lot of respect for the car. It's an animal in terms of speed and momentum and has the most beautiful silhouette in the TVR range IMO. I'd had a 350i and 4.3 Griff previously.
It was an itch definitely needed to scratch and was glad I did. The experience was, well, an experience. In the 5 years I had her the only thing that failed was the gearbox. The only reason that was a nightmare was the mechanic who rebuilt the box, which leaked and had to go back 3 times after.
I've had the Cerb experience and glad I did, but now I have a Chimaera. The reason being, I personally don't like the AJP characteristics. The engine note on acceleration is too 4 pot'ish, and peak power doesn't start till 5.5k revs. I don't like revving the nutts off engines. I prefer low down grunt and the ability to drift when the mood takes me
My advice would be, go and drive a few. If you still have the itch, it won't go away, so buy one and enjoy the ride
Just don't rely on paying a 'specialist' who shall remain nameless to look over it before you. I did, and he missed the micro blisters peppered all over the roof and the sticky 4th gear selection as an early sign of gearbox failure. He also left a pair of pliers in the engine bay, which clattered out on the test drive
Good luck!
It was an itch definitely needed to scratch and was glad I did. The experience was, well, an experience. In the 5 years I had her the only thing that failed was the gearbox. The only reason that was a nightmare was the mechanic who rebuilt the box, which leaked and had to go back 3 times after.
I've had the Cerb experience and glad I did, but now I have a Chimaera. The reason being, I personally don't like the AJP characteristics. The engine note on acceleration is too 4 pot'ish, and peak power doesn't start till 5.5k revs. I don't like revving the nutts off engines. I prefer low down grunt and the ability to drift when the mood takes me
My advice would be, go and drive a few. If you still have the itch, it won't go away, so buy one and enjoy the ride
Just don't rely on paying a 'specialist' who shall remain nameless to look over it before you. I did, and he missed the micro blisters peppered all over the roof and the sticky 4th gear selection as an early sign of gearbox failure. He also left a pair of pliers in the engine bay, which clattered out on the test drive
Good luck!
Edited by caduceus on Sunday 25th September 10:35
ChilliWhizz said:
Beware!! Gruffalo's car is no ordinary Cerb... I know, I've been in it round Snett's.... I live ten minutes from Snetts and have a Chimaera 500 but unfortunately won't be home until the end of next week... Happy to take you out in the Chim when I'm home, it's not quite as quick as Gruffalo's Cerb tho, I only have a measly 360bhp
Seriously, If you want a meet up in October I should be about..
Chilli
I reckon Gruffalo is trying to kill me to take away the pain Seriously, If you want a meet up in October I should be about..
Chilli
I think its pretty evident from all the very much appreciated comments here that I need to be patient, try, test and weigh it up again once I've dotted the i's and crossed the T's. When it comes to Tvr though I seem to get swept up and carried away a bit...on any other car I'm cursing something that needs replacing on the Tvr I'm in celebration mode looking at new shiny bits.
Happy to wait Chilli...offer very much accepted when you get 5 next month.
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