Crashed blue one. Tuscan I think blocking Southwick tunnel

Crashed blue one. Tuscan I think blocking Southwick tunnel

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steviejasp

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165 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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Looks bad, not much left of it, praying passengers are ok frown

mike_e

584 posts

263 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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Sounds like the driver was possibly racing and being tailgated by a Blue Focus from eye witness reports. The male driver had to be cut free, hope he's not seriously hurt. Timely reminder to all of us to watch road conditions at this time of year, it was very cold last night and started icing up quite early.

Edited by mike_e on Thursday 1st December 12:52

Milky400

1,960 posts

178 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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Echo above, I hope all are ok.

But If eye witness reports are correct, crazy fool racing with the roads so dangerous.

mike_e

584 posts

263 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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Milky400 said:
Echo above, I hope all are ok.

But If eye witness reports are correct, crazy fool racing with the roads so dangerous.
Some more here:

http://www.brightonandhovenews.org/2016/11/30/a27-...

Having owned a Cerbera for 13 years, I became very disillusioned by the number of other motorists baiting me to race them, it's the sole reason I sold one of the best examples of a 4.5 Cerbera and with much regret. It's easy to lose your better judgment, particularly if provoked, I only hope the Cameras on the tunnel picked up the incident and can shed some light on a what is a very sad and unfortunate incident.

m4tti

5,427 posts

155 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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Simply don't drive in the wet or winter. Simple. It's a high powered light weight car with no driver aids.

Milky400

1,960 posts

178 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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m4tti said:
Simply don't drive in the wet or winter. Simple. It's a high powered light weight car with no driver aids.
Totally agree...

there are those that use them all year, but personally not for me. I'll take the the mondeo or Range thankyou.

SMB

1,513 posts

266 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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mike_e said:
Some more here:

http://www.brightonandhovenews.org/2016/11/30/a27-...

Having owned a Cerbera for 13 years, I became very disillusioned by the number of other motorists baiting me to race them, it's the sole reason I sold one of the best examples of a 4.5 Cerbera and with much regret. It's easy to lose your better judgment, particularly if provoked, I only hope the Cameras on the tunnel picked up the incident and can shed some light on a what is a very sad and unfortunate incident.
A couple of years ago in Brighton I had 2 young lads in a mk1 silver focus try to bait me, they followed within 4-5 feet of my rear bumper for 1/2 a mile or more at 30mph. It was tempting to try to outrun them but I tried to just maintain a set speed until I could pull over out of the way. It's possible the tuscan decided to try to outrun them, if this happened in this instance.
Talk of another focus makes me wonder,....

I didn't report It as I didn't have a reg for the focus as they were so close the plate was not even visible.

Soov535

35,829 posts

271 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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Daily A27 trucker November 30, 2016 at 9:04 pm Reply
Happened about 30 seconds in front of me….a Blue TVR came past my truck at Holmbush like I was standing still…less than a minute later it was ruined.
Too much pace used by too many people on this road….go steady out there folks, it ain’t worth it!

Kieron December 1, 2016 at 7:56 am Reply
Was there a blue Ford focus involved because they come racing down past me I was sat at the side of the road in a rhino van The focus and the car in front which I didn’t say because they were bumper-to-bumper so I hope that’s not the reason that they crashed



Sh*t

nawarne

3,089 posts

260 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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Echo all the comments above....particularly in the current freezing conditions.

I do drive my Tuscan all year. In cases where the "driving gods" come up behind me, I'm more than happy to pull over/let them pass. Can be difficult at times!!

Nick

mike_e

584 posts

263 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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Police are appealing for witnesses to the crash.

Anyone who saw what happened or noticed the TVR being driven prior to the crash is asked to email collision.appeal@sussex.pnn.police.uk or phone 101, quoting serial 928 of 30/11.

Read more at: http://www.littlehamptongazette.co.uk/news/witness...

Yex 450

4,583 posts

220 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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Soov535 said:
Daily A27 trucker November 30, 2016 at 9:04 pm Reply
Happened about 30 seconds in front of me….a Blue TVR came past my truck at Holmbush like I was standing still…less than a minute later it was ruined.
Too much pace used by too many people on this road….go steady out there folks, it ain’t worth it!

Kieron December 1, 2016 at 7:56 am Reply
Was there a blue Ford focus involved because they come racing down past me I was sat at the side of the road in a rhino van The focus and the car in front which I didn’t say because they were bumper-to-bumper so I hope that’s not the reason that they crashed

Sh*t
From the above there were clear witnesses so I guess perhaps a book may be thrown at the Tuscan driver. I hope they are physically OK but from the descriptions of events just before the actual crash they were clearly travelling too fast for the conditions.

shep1001

4,599 posts

189 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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m4tti said:
Simply don't drive in the wet or winter. Simple. It's a high powered light weight car with no driver aids.
Agreed, would love to go for a blast with my new wheels on but not until I get the R888's off the rims & some sensible tyres on.

m4tti

5,427 posts

155 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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shep1001 said:
m4tti said:
Simply don't drive in the wet or winter. Simple. It's a high powered light weight car with no driver aids.
Agreed, would love to go for a blast with my new wheels on but not until I get the R888's off the rims & some sensible tyres on.
What makes the situation even worse is that unless your very late 30's or early 40's onwards it's likely you learnt to drive in a car With ABS, so have very little experience of driving an unassisted car about. In my little UNO 45 with its wooden wheels and zero ABS you very quickly learnt about taking your foot off the brake pedal in the wet...

Speed 3

4,549 posts

119 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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One of the benefits of getting old is that you generally become more realistic about your own talents and often more tolerant and pragmatic. Hope the driver pulls through with only life changing thoughts rather than injuries.

tofts

411 posts

156 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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I'm only 30, but regularly drive other peoples cars and this time of year, grip etc is something that concerns me every time I take a vehicle out.

I think the best thing that make me think about the road is not my car driving experience, but my motorcycle. Its taught me more about how to respect a road, watch for hazards and generally stay safe. Silly things that car drivers don't consider like drains, white lines cats eyes, are just mundane for the most part, but even under relatively moderate acceleration in a high power car with cold tire on damp roads, these are recipe for disaster.

I read a statistic some years ago that say most accidents happen when your close to home as you become complacent over years of the same route. It is true as (wow, over 10 years ago now) years ago I did indeed have a mishap in my Toyota Supra, not going terribly fast about 60 I would say but it was poor judgement on my part for not looking at the road conditions. Whilst inside your cabin its nice and toasty, you have to think about the arduous job attempting to find grip your tires are having at such low temperatures. It taught me a lesson, a very good one and the only thing that was hurt was my pride. Thankfully, I managed to sell the car in parts for more than I paid for it anyway. But it was only 2 miles from home and has made me more aware of my local route. It also taught me that you are pulled in to a false sense of security in to feeling comfortable, and since then I have paid just as much attention regardless of vehicle I am in control of.


I don't profess to be an expert driver but I believe to be a considerate and careful one. The more I drive the more I consider doing some form of advanced driving course on a track to learn to control spin, rear wheel loss etc where you can have a play around and feel safer. As my workshop is down a small access road, even just turning out of the junction can slip the tires doing less than 10mph.

Stay safe, "read" the road.

travelbug63

98 posts

117 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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The guy driving the Tuscan is a friend of a friend, don't know him personally. Apparently he has whiplash and a couple of broken ribs.

steviejasp

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165 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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Thank God it's not too bad then. It looked really bad.

Milky400

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178 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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Hopefully shows these cars perform better in crashes than some think.

phazed

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204 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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Milky400 said:
Hopefully shows these cars perform better in crashes than some think.
More than likely it wasn't a bad crash by modern day standards.

steviejasp

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165 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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I saw it just after it happened and It looked bad. Not much left of it to be honest. I think a door was the only recognisable bit