Caliper overhaul

[greenhulk]

Was always going to be a few unforeseen gremlins during the rebuild.. I have seized up front & rear calipers, does anyone know where to get them sorted out & repainted while im at it. I contacted 'biggred' in Worcester they quoted £243 for overhaul & painting in red. Just wondering if anyone knows of anywhere else that do them? (save me a few pennies )

Also considering 888 sierra cosworth calipers for the front brake upgrade with 278mm discs, anyone else running these if so how do you find them? Im limited to what i can use as im keeping the oz vegas on my chim, front are 15"

cheers
Steve

Edited by greenhulk on Friday 2nd December 10:22

[Toolbox200]

You could try www.brakecaliperspecialists.uk/

Pete

[phillpot]

I've got the 888/887 calipers on my S3 but probably way over the top for road use unless you plan on absolutely ragging the pants off it?


The 240mm which I guess yours has if it's an Early one are, on the other hand, a bit puny, 260mm as you have on your S are (imho) plenty good enough........... but if you have some of the bigguns you might as well fit 'em

[greenhulk]

Cheers Pete, will give them a call

Mike, oh I didn't know you had them on your 'S'. I have the 240mm yeah but graham said the calipers will be different to the ones I had off you before (for my S with the 260mm discs on)

[Yex 450]

I have the 887/888 brakes on my Chimaera 450

As above they are a little over the top for day to day road use but given they are significantly more effective than the originals I'll stick with them

On the track they are excellent and stop quickly from high speed all day without fading.

Overall if you can find a set buy them, add braided hoses and decent pads and they are worth every penny.

[greenhulk]

Yex 450 said:

I have the 887/888 brakes on my Chimaera 450

As above they are a little over the top for day to day road use but given they are significantly more effective than the originals I'll stick with them

On the track they are excellent and stop quickly from high speed all day without fading.

Overall if you can find a set buy them, add braided hoses and decent pads and they are worth every penny.

I have the braided hoses already, got them from act just wondering if they'll need changing to work with these 888 calipers or not (if I go with them)

[N7GTX]

If you want to save some cash, you can buy the parts for an overhaul from here:
http://brakeparts.co.uk/#!/shop/FORD/MONDEO/93-00/...

I fitted 300mm discs, 4 stud, (ST170) with Mk3 Mondeo calipers (same 60mm piston) using spacers due to disc offset being different and have 15" standard wheels. To clear the caliper properly, I fitted 5mm wheel spacers.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

The 887/888 upgrade is here:
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

And if you want to fill up the hole behind your rear wheels from the tiny originals to something a little bigger, then this is what I did.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Edited by N7GTX on Friday 2nd December 16:01

[phillpot]

greenhulk said:

yeah but graham said..............

Who's Graham?



what do you think the 260mm ones you had from me for your S came off

Edited by phillpot on Saturday 3rd December 09:48

[greenhulk]

phillpot said:

Who's Graham?

with the chimaera who came up sunday to get some details on our bonnets

N7GTX said:

If you want to save some cash, you can buy the parts for an overhaul from here:
http://brakeparts.co.uk/#!/shop/FORD/MONDEO/93-00/...

thank you, didnt realise the overhaul kit was that cheap

[N7GTX]

greenhulk said:

phillpot said:

Who's Graham?

with the chimaera who came up sunday to get some details on our bonnets

N7GTX said:

If you want to save some cash, you can buy the parts for an overhaul from here:
http://brakeparts.co.uk/#!/shop/FORD/MONDEO/93-00/...

thank you, didnt realise the overhaul kit was that cheap

I've added some more details for bigger brakes in my first post. Just helping a fellow owner empty his wallet like mine....

[PhilH42]

greenhulk said:

Was always going to be a few unforeseen gremlins during the rebuild.. I have seized up front & rear calipers, does anyone know where to get them sorted out & repainted while im at it. I contacted 'biggred' in Worcester they quoted £243 for overhaul & painting in red. Just wondering if anyone knows of anywhere else that do them? (save me a few pennies )

Also considering 888 sierra cosworth calipers for the front brake upgrade with 278mm discs, anyone else running these if so how do you find them? Im limited to what i can use as im keeping the oz vegas on my chim, front are 15"

cheers
Steve

Edited by greenhulk on Friday 2nd December 10:22

When I had the S I refurbed myself with new pistons and painted them red... Not that difficult. Bought stuff from Bigred...all good.

[PhilH42]

[PhilH42]

[greenhulk]

wallets been well & truely emptied on engine bay & various parts

Cheers Phil, they've actually came out really well! I'm half tempted to have a go now. Are those the original 'S' calipers or did you do the chimaera brake uograde on it?

[PhilH42]

greenhulk said:

wallets been well & truely emptied on engine bay & various parts

Cheers Phil, they've actually came out really well! I'm half tempted to have a go now. Are those the original 'S' calipers or did you do the chimaera brake uograde on it?

Yes I bet....I imagine its very difficult to stop cleaning, changing and doing everything down to the last bolt on a body off Mines going to happen at some point....I look at it and think yep...then I do the same the next week and so on

Original on the S I didn't upgrade but they are the same as on my Chim I think being the 400....I refurbed the whole braking system though including the (Cortina Servo...not many of the S's have these, Glenrobbo does/did from memory I think) and master cylinder. So after all that it stopped great....although ianything would have felt great from where it started

Its elbow grease really and time between coats. I replaced the bleed nipples and used my compressor with the air nossel wrapped in ptfe to poke in the bleed hole to pop out the pistons. Just be careful which way you fit the seal on the new cylinders when re-fitting...they only seemed to like one way round. Although your calipers may be different if on a larger engine.

I'd have a go especially if you're trying to save where you can, I'm sure mine cost me about £65 all in.

[phillpot]

greenhulk said:

I have the braided hoses already, got them from act just wondering if they'll need changing to work with these 888 calipers or not (if I go with them)

They'll be fine.

greenhulk said:

I have the 240mm yeah but graham said the calipers will be different to the ones I had off you before (for my S with the 260mm discs on)

Possibly some confusion or misunderstanding here, what fits an S will fit a Chimaera, both use same Sierra upright/hub carrier

[greenhulk]

PhilH42 said:

Yes I bet....I imagine its very difficult to stop cleaning, changing and doing everything down to the last bolt on a body off Mines going to happen at some point....I look at it and think yep...then I do the same the next week and so on

Original on the S I didn't upgrade but they are the same as on my Chim I think being the 400....I refurbed the whole braking system though including the (Cortina Servo...not many of the S's have these, Glenrobbo does/did from memory I think) and master cylinder. So after all that it stopped great....although ianything would have felt great from where it started

Its elbow grease really and time between coats. I replaced the bleed nipples and used my compressor with the air nossel wrapped in ptfe to poke in the bleed hole to pop out the pistons. Just be careful which way you fit the seal on the new cylinders when re-fitting...they only seemed to like one way round. Although your calipers may be different if on a larger engine.

I'd have a go especially if you're trying to save where you can, I'm sure mine cost me about £65 all in.

Think ill give it ago, i had them painted before by someone but when i received them they were still 'tacky' found bits of paint sticking, must take awhile to cure unless there ovencured?

Mike, i think he said that the mk2 & mk3 tvr chimaera calipers were different to the mk1? I presume they were all the same (ford sierra) just different size discs?

[PhilH42]

Thats a good point Steve actually, I used a primer and then...... (you'd think I'd learn my lesson by now) halfrauds caliper paint and it was awful getting it to dry...very tacky still after 48 hours indoors. Stuck it in the oven on high for a couple of hours in the end and it did help I think (don't tell my wife) but I'd go for high temp engine paint or plastikote high temp if I did again. Some people I know have used hammerite on calipers with seemingly good results although I've not tried myself.

Hows the rest coming along....got any more photos?

Edited by PhilH42 on Saturday 3rd December 17:47

[greenhulk]

PhilH42 said:

Thats a good point Steve actually, I used a primer and then...... (you'd think I'd learn my lesson by now) halfrauds caliper paint and it was awful getting it to dry...very tacky still after 48 hours indoors. Stuck it in the oven on high for a couple of hours in the end and it did help I think (don't tell my wife) but I'd go for high temp engine paint or plastikote high temp if I did again. Some people I know have used hammerite on calipers with seemingly good results although I've not tried myself.

Hows the rest coming along....got any more photos?

Edited by PhilH42 on Saturday 3rd December 17:47

halfrauds caliper paint.. I recon the guy that done mine (£40) must of used the same because they took a further week or two to completely cure, i remember looking at my audi car mat after i got them home & saw bits of green paint!
Still, look a treat behind the ol oz 8 spokes on the 'S'


I haven't got any more pictures sent through yet Phil, the chassis was picked up & dropped off for shotblasting etc on the friday. Ill have a few snaps this week, still got these oz vega split rims to sort out too

[PhilH42]

greenhulk said:

halfrauds caliper paint.. I recon the guy that done mine (£40) must of used the same because they took a further week or two to completely cure, i remember looking at my audi car mat after i got them home & saw bits of green paint!
Still, look a treat behind the ol oz 8 spokes on the 'S'


I haven't got any more pictures sent through yet Phil, the chassis was picked up & dropped off for shotblasting etc on the friday. Ill have a few snaps this week, still got these oz vega split rims to sort out too

B******g Halfrauds....its laziness on my part really..its convenient I suppose to just be able to pick something up....then spend a couple of the following Saturdays putting it right

Good colour choice of caliper i prefer the OZ spokes to the slots on the S. Although the slots still look good when fresh cut.

What finish are you going for on the Vega's?

I'm going to enjoy next year on the road with the extra beans, make sure I get to plenty of meets and then I'm doing the chassis...look forward to the pics when they come along....bet you can't wait...kid in sweetshop stuff