Vixen suspension bushes

Vixen suspension bushes

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BillC99

Original Poster:

348 posts

160 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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Hi All,

I am replacing all the suspension bushes,what are your thoughts on nylon V original?

The car is not going to be used for track days etc.

Your thoughts would be appreciated.

Bill

Astacus

3,382 posts

234 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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This topic comes up from time to time on here. I will start off.

Polymer bushes are easy to fit and potentially last longer than the originals, however, they are much harder, which means the suspension will feel tauter but at the same time will lose much of its compliance. Also, they are expensive when compared with the rubber bushes. The other thing I noticed about the poly bushes is that , of course, they are not at all adjustable, while the rubber bushes allow a mm or so of side to side adjustment, which helps when you have a hand built car.

I have polybushes all over, except for the diff mounts (series one VIxen), but I am considering swapping them back to rubber, when I do the final build up.

On my car, the ones I will definitely keep are the ones at the top of the rear uprights, simply because they go in so easily and the rubbers were such buggers to get out.

plasticpig72

1,647 posts

149 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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I know of some people that do a mix on Lotus Elans and say it works very well.
Maybe poly outside and rubber inside or perhaps the opposite way round.
Alan

Moto

1,235 posts

253 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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Bill,

When I rebuilt my suspension units I replaced the rubber bushes with Superflex poly bushes, however it was just one element in the overall process. I also fitted new shocks, coils, bearings etc etc. The overall result was a big improvement but how much of it was down to just the bushes is hard to determine. Superflex do offer kits containing all the necessary parts specifically for the Vixen and although they were expensive, everything went in perfectly and fitting was also easy. IIRC each bush has an individual hardness rating that is supposed to be ideal for each specific bush on the Vixen - it all seems to work well.

Once you're done I would recommend getting your car corner balanced by someone as that will make a massive difference and get the best from the new components you've fitted.

Moto


Dollyman1850

6,318 posts

250 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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What about Phosphor Bronze wink



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Astacus

3,382 posts

234 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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Fine as long as you don't have false teeth! smile


and very beautifully done Neil

Dollyman1850

6,318 posts

250 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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Astacus said:
Fine as long as you don't have false teeth! smile


and very beautifully done Neil
I run poly superflex all round but with stainless machined inserts. The Bronze bushes were very much needed due to the configuration of the piggyback set up which places extreme loading on the std bush because of the vertical loading.

The stiffness of the bushes aren't really felt with 650lb springs front and 400lb rears wink

Moto

1,235 posts

253 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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Astacus said:
Fine as long as you don't have false teeth! smile


and very beautifully done Neil
Surely they'd be fine if you do have false teeth as you could take them out before driving laugh

They do look fab though.

bergxu

381 posts

157 months

Tuesday 13th December 2016
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I'm also going to re-bush the suspension in my Vixen S2 and I've decided I'll go with Superflex poly bushes. With the £ to $ conversion plus p&p, it comes to almost $500USD which is a bit mad in my mind, but it seems that it's the best option with respect to durability and sounds as if it won't destroy the ride.

Moto

1,235 posts

253 months

Wednesday 14th December 2016
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During the process I replaced the original steering rack mounts for solid mounts. That was a not a good plan as it just exaggerated the feedback from road imperfections to an alarming level. I refitted the original mounts but with Superflex poly bushes and that works well with good feedback but no aggressive kickback.

Moto

bergxu

381 posts

157 months

Thursday 15th December 2016
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Good to know. I've ordered the full monty from them this morning so that'll be the next project after the tail lamp seal R&R.


Andrew Gray

4,969 posts

149 months

Thursday 15th December 2016
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If anyone is wanting M series Polly Bushes e mail these guys they do all the M series Bushes
autobushltd@gmail.com
Great Service and keen price
A

280i

160 posts

152 months

Friday 16th December 2016
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Does a 1971 2500 (vixen 2500 in the US) have its own kit of bushings? or is it the same as a Series 2?

In reality I probably will just replace a handful of the main ones. Is there any they share with the TR6? It may be more cost effective to buy some of those for individual replacement?

Anyone know what ones they have in common ?



the other tim

136 posts

147 months

Friday 16th December 2016
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2500 has the same bushes as an S3 with the only proviso being you have a TR6 diff rather than GT6

280i

160 posts

152 months

Friday 16th December 2016
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Ok in that case what is the major bushing for the S3? is there a common one that I can get (intended for another car) in bulk and do most of them?
for example are all the inner wishbone bushings the same and if they are what is used?

thank you for the help I am just trying to save a bit of money.

280i

160 posts

152 months

Sunday 18th December 2016
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No one knows what size the inner wishbone bushings are? and if they are a common part?

Slow M

2,736 posts

206 months

Monday 19th December 2016
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280i said:
No one knows what size the inner wishbone bushings are? and if they are a common part?
Check on the site of a company like Hyperflex, or Superflex, or some such flex, and then do a site search, for the same part #.

Best regards,
Bernard.

the other tim

136 posts

147 months

280i

160 posts

152 months

Thursday 22nd December 2016
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Dollyman1850 said:
What about Phosphor Bronze wink



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Dollyman1850 - How much for a set like the ones pictured?

Dollyman1850

6,318 posts

250 months

Thursday 22nd December 2016
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280i said:
Dollyman1850 - How much for a set like the ones pictured?
The speed at which I make them about £1000 hehe
N.