Suspension parts/advice

[CanoeSniffer]

Seeing the amount of £££ being flung around above reminds me why I try not to be fussy about the performance of my Tiv. I always knew my car would be poverty spec but now it truly appears so!

[phazed]

Never spent a penny on mine, just the odd oil change...............

[Matthew Poxon]

Interesting oil change technique

[Yex 450]

Call that an oil change

[phazed]

Matthew Poxon said:

Interesting oil change technique

Dam, there's a spy in our midst!

[CanoeSniffer]

Rumbled!

[ClassicChimaera]

CanoeSniffer said:

Rumbled!

He's kidding know one
If you get a chance to get along to a trackday Peter's attending I'm sure he'll be happy to show you his cars brute power,,,
It accelerates in 5th faster than most of ours in second gear!!! .
Proper race car this one as it's always in bits
Look closer, camaflage jacket hanging by the door, interested selection of products on the shelves,the old school racking, like a pig in st this guy

[ClassicChimaera]

Matthew Poxon said:

Don't forget TVR Parts supply the parts required to upgrade the Mk4 bilstiens to a fully adjustable platform in terms of ride height:

http://tvr-parts.com/tvr-parts/part-details/tvr-c0...
http://tvr-parts.com/tvr-parts/part-details/tvr-c0...

I believe someone on here did do this upgrade.

This is good
Once you've got the shocks of your choice you really should have the car corner weighted to get the best out of the set up and that means little ride height changes to get the cross weight spot on (Matt Smith is rather good at this )
So these are vital and makes the decision easier but still not total

[ClassicChimaera]

portzi said:

Very interesting
So is Powers looking at doing any chassis modifications in regards to the dampners and wishbones for the chimaera and Griffith chassis?

They will be when your working for them

Dom will do many things if he likes the look of it or because a valued customer wants something different, he just doesn't advertise it Mark.
Having some idea of your working skills I think you'd have a ball there and keep pushing things on for the older cars including some desperately needed chassis mods we all could do with.
Just a thought

[Matthew Poxon]

ClassicChimaera said:

portzi said:

Very interesting
So is Powers looking at doing any chassis modifications in regards to the dampners and wishbones for the chimaera and Griffith chassis?

They will be when your working for them

Dom will do many things if he likes the look of it or because a valued customer wants something different, he just doesn't advertise it Mark.
Having some idea of your working skills I think you'd have a ball there and keep pushing things on for the older cars including some desperately needed chassis mods we all could do with.
Just a thought

I agree with this, I am not entirely convinced spending 3k+ on a set of Ohlins for example is worthwhile given the design of the chassis. Harry Metcalfe, the editor of Evo recalls the story of Gordon Murray's partner trying to sort out the suspension on his newly acquired Griff by putting it on the McLaren jig and trying various setups, and ultimately failing. I think I would invest in a Sportmotive Evo chassis before fancy suspension, another reason the Mk4 bilstiens are a good option IMO.

Harry's recollection of the chassis jig mentioned here:
https://youtu.be/lqTbdmbL7mU?t=4m35s

[portzi]

Matthew Poxon said:

ClassicChimaera said:

portzi said:

Very interesting
So is Powers looking at doing any chassis modifications in regards to the dampners and wishbones for the chimaera and Griffith chassis?

They will be when your working for them

Dom will do many things if he likes the look of it or because a valued customer wants something different, he just doesn't advertise it Mark.
Having some idea of your working skills I think you'd have a ball there and keep pushing things on for the older cars including some desperately needed chassis mods we all could do with.
Just a thought

I agree with this, I am not entirely convinced spending 3k+ on a set of Ohlins for example is worthwhile given the design of the chassis. Harry Metcalfe, the editor of Evo recalls the story of Gordon Murray's partner trying to sort out the suspension on his newly acquired Griff by putting it on the McLaren jig and trying various setups, and ultimately failing. I think I would invest in a Sportmotive Evo chassis before fancy suspension, another reason the Mk4 bilstiens are a good option IMO.

Harry's recollection of the chassis jig mentioned here:
https://youtu.be/lqTbdmbL7mU?t=4m35s

Hi Alun, Dom was advertising for Engineers on FB not long back. It would be a nice job l reckon after my time with the Queen has ended in afew years.

[N7GTX]

portzi said:

Hi Alun, Dom was advertising for Engineers on FB not long back. It would be a nice job l reckon after my time with the Queen has ended in afew years.

I think you'd like it there. Properly equipped workshop and each time I've been the place is spotlessly clean.

[ClassicChimaera]

I'll try and look after my chassis until then Mark,

I've watched that vid years ago Matt
, interesting,,,, were better drivers then we think

I'm 6 months off considering other shocks as I want to give my Protechs more of a chance with bigger springs and change of valving first as I've found them quite subtle when changing damper settings.
If I do change shocks I'm close to choosing MK4 Billies

[QBee]

Soon this place will be swamped with Mk4 Billie wavers.....

[ClassicChimaera]

QBee said:

Soon this place will be swamped with Mk4 Billie wavers.....

[CanoeSniffer]

Billie wavers, easily the best phrase I've heard in a while

[ClassicChimaera]

CanoeSniffer said:

Billie wavers, easily the best phrase I've heard in a while

Don't encourage him, he just doesn't want me to be Billie waving in front of him

[Matthew Poxon]

QBee said:

Soon this place will be swamped with Mk4 Billie wavers.....

hahahahahaha very good.

[angus337]

I was also thinking about the mk4 billies to replace my old GG's. They do seem a bit pricey though, just added up all the parts and it comes to £1017! which is almost in nitron territory.

Do any of the suppliers do a good deal on a full set with springs, bushes and height adjuster?

[ChimpOnGas]

angus337 said:

I was also thinking about the mk4 billies to replace my old GG's. They do seem a bit pricey though, just added up all the parts and it comes to £1017! which is almost in nitron territory.

Do any of the suppliers do a good deal on a full set with springs, bushes and height adjuster?

Call or email Ben Lang, if you contact him directly he'll do you a better deal than on eBay.

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My bespoke sprung & valved Mk4 Billies were £996.24 fully assembled, talk to Ben though as mine were a mix of components, IE Griff/Chim fronts and his slightly more expensive Tuscan 'S' rears, the spring rates and valving were specially chosen to suit the extra weight my LPG powered Chimaera caries over the rear axle line.

I believe if you just go with his Griff/Chim kit front and rear the price will be closer to £900.

Ben set the ride height to ensure I could just bolt my new Bilsteins to my car, and I haven't touched them since. There was no tweaking, adjusting or messing about, they just worked brilliantly straight out of the box which is exactly what I wanted.

Price wise my Mk4 Bilsteins worked out between Gaz Gold Pros and Nitrons, for the money their nearest competitor would be Gaz Monos.

Chimaera owners have the following suspension options:

• Protech: £560.00 + postage (Protech)

• Gaz Gold Pro: £658.80 + postage (ACT)

• Gaz Monotubes: £958.80 + postage (ACT)

• Mk4 Bilsteins Tuscan 2 "S" spec: £996.24 including postage (Ben Lang)

• Nitrons: £1320.00 + postage (Powers Performance)

• Intrax 1K2 or RSA: various options all being more money than Nitrons

• Ohlins: Even more money than Intrax