Chimaera 500 - Steering rack problems

Chimaera 500 - Steering rack problems

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AdriaanB

Original Poster:

163 posts

129 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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Hi guys,

My 1995 Chimaera 500 is currently at Lloyds Specialist Development for a full Canems upgrade, together with some other bits and bobs.

During the works they discovered my N/S inter track joint was work, and they ordered a new part. Unfortunately it didn't fit, as apparently my car is fitted with a rare manual steering rack that apparently was used on c. 50 cars of so. The inner steering rack joint has a female threaded fitting with spring-loaded ball whereas all the available TVR inner steering rack joints have a male threaded fitting with a sealed joint. Length is the same at 335mm.

Problem now is that we probably need to replace the entire steering rack for the more common manual rack (part no. TVR H0148). Also, now these racks only seem to come as reconditioned rather than new, and the parts supplier does not want to take my rack in exchange. Result: at least £1200+ ex VAT just for a reconditioned rack, which seems a bit absurd.

Anybody else encountered this problem, or has any smart solutions/suggestions?

andy43

9,730 posts

255 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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There's a used rack on ebay (being sold by Douglas Valley breakers presumably from a write off), or you could convert to the subaru PAS rack.

ClassicChimaera

12,424 posts

150 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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Look up Suburu Steering rack upgrade. P/S but it's a good solution for when the Tvr racks become obsolete.
I've driven a Tvr with said rack and it was very good. Virtually the same as the Tvr p/s rack but more precise.

phazed

21,844 posts

205 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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ClassicChimaera said:
Look up Suburu Steering rack upgrade. P/S but it's a good solution for when the Tvr racks become obsolete.
I've driven a Tvr with said rack and it was very good. Virtually the same as the Tvr p/s rack but more precise.
As Alun says above.

Did mine for less then £300.00.

AdriaanB

Original Poster:

163 posts

129 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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Thanks so far guys. Unfortunately no garage facilities, so have to rely on a specialist to do the work/carry out a Subaru conversion. Can imagine it would become quite an expensive job if one has to outsource the Subaru rack conversion?

RobXjcoupe

3,175 posts

92 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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AdriaanB said:
Hi guys,

My 1995 Chimaera 500 is currently at Lloyds Specialist Development for a full Canems upgrade, together with some other bits and bobs.

During the works they discovered my N/S inter track joint was work, and they ordered a new part. Unfortunately it didn't fit, as apparently my car is fitted with a rare manual steering rack that apparently was used on c. 50 cars of so. The inner steering rack joint has a female threaded fitting with spring-loaded ball whereas all the available TVR inner steering rack joints have a male threaded fitting with a sealed joint. Length is the same at 335mm.

Problem now is that we probably need to replace the entire steering rack for the more common manual rack (part no. TVR H0148). Also, now these racks only seem to come as reconditioned rather than new, and the parts supplier does not want to take my rack in exchange. Result: at least £1200+ ex VAT just for a reconditioned rack, which seems a bit absurd.

Anybody else encountered this problem, or has any smart solutions/suggestions?
Can you post a picture of the worn part and replacement part?
In my head I can see a female threaded part that needs shortening and then a male stud wound in to create what's needed?

RobXjcoupe

3,175 posts

92 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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AdriaanB said:
Hi guys,

My 1995 Chimaera 500 is currently at Lloyds Specialist Development for a full Canems upgrade, together with some other bits and bobs.

During the works they discovered my N/S inter track joint was work, and they ordered a new part. Unfortunately it didn't fit, as apparently my car is fitted with a rare manual steering rack that apparently was used on c. 50 cars of so. The inner steering rack joint has a female threaded fitting with spring-loaded ball whereas all the available TVR inner steering rack joints have a male threaded fitting with a sealed joint. Length is the same at 335mm.

Problem now is that we probably need to replace the entire steering rack for the more common manual rack (part no. TVR H0148). Also, now these racks only seem to come as reconditioned rather than new, and the parts supplier does not want to take my rack in exchange. Result: at least £1200+ ex VAT just for a reconditioned rack, which seems a bit absurd.

Anybody else encountered this problem, or has any smart solutions/suggestions?
Can you post a picture of the worn part and replacement part?
In my head I can see a female threaded part that needs shortening and then a male stud wound in to create what's needed?

Hedgehopper

1,537 posts

245 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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This one is for sale...........

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/parts-and-p...

or contact Kiley Clinton for help.

Edited by Hedgehopper on Monday 27th March 17:50

ChimpOnGas

9,637 posts

180 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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If you've just had a Canems system installed you're a good part of the way to implementing electric power steering, the ECU is designed to work with the Vauxhall system to give you speed sensitive assistance.

1. Buy that £100 manual rack in the PH classifieds

2. Have it reconditioned

3. Have Lloyds give you electric power steering

taylormj4

1,563 posts

267 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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RobXjcoupe said:
Can you post a picture of the worn part and replacement part?
In my head I can see a female threaded part that needs shortening and then a male stud wound in to create what's needed?
Yes, agree. A good garage or engineeing shop should be able to make up a part that would convert from one to the other.
Garages seem to only want to replace parts these days.

phazed

21,844 posts

205 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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That's because they are fitters and not mechanics!

Fenderer

137 posts

103 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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I have a manual rack for sale Part no. TVR H-0103 MCD in great condition. I've upgraded to an electric Subaru rack so now surplus to requirements. PM me if interested.

Edit: Looks like I also have the inner steering joints you need too. Are these the same as yours?




Edited by Fenderer on Wednesday 29th March 13:47

RobXjcoupe

3,175 posts

92 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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taylormj4 said:
RobXjcoupe said:
Can you post a picture of the worn part and replacement part?
In my head I can see a female threaded part that needs shortening and then a male stud wound in to create what's needed?
Yes, agree. A good garage or engineeing shop should be able to make up a part that would convert from one to the other.
Garages seem to only want to replace parts these days.
It would take me about an hour to correct possibly two but hey ho, I offered

AdriaanB

Original Poster:

163 posts

129 months

Thursday 30th March 2017
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Fenderer said:
I have a manual rack for sale Part no. TVR H-0103 MCD in great condition. I've upgraded to an electric Subaru rack so now surplus to requirements. PM me if interested.

Edit: Looks like I also have the inner steering joints you need too. Are these the same as yours?




Edited by Fenderer on Wednesday 29th March 13:47
Thanks, but indeed that's the current rack I have, so unfortunately wouldn't solve the problem. The rack advertised on PH is the one I'm after, so many thanks guys for sharing that, I'll order it tomorrow and hopefully have a good working rack end of next week!

pearly

242 posts

143 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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Not sure if this is of help, I think I have the same rack.and I could'nt identify the manufacturer
It got an advisory on the MOT for play on both inner joints,I tried repacking them with fresh grease which cured one.
The other one would'nt tighten enough, so i used a very thin plastic washer behind the cup which gave me enough to clamp it a little tighter.
This was about 3 years ago, it's been ok ever since, but I have only done about 5k miles since then.

Antonin

1 posts

76 months

Friday 5th January 2018
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Fenderer said:
I have a manual rack for sale Part no. TVR H-0103 MCD in great condition. I've upgraded to an electric Subaru rack so now surplus to requirements. PM me if interested.

Edit: Looks like I also have the inner steering joints you need too. Are these the same as yours?




Edited by Fenderer on Wednesday 29th March 13:47
Hello there,
I know this thread is old but I happen to be in the same situation with this "unusual track rod". Fenderer, do you happen to still have that steering rack available by any chance?

SILICONEKID 345HP 12.03

14,997 posts

232 months

Saturday 6th January 2018
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ChimpOnGas said:
If you've just had a Canems system installed you're a good part of the way to implementing electric power steering, the ECU is designed to work with the Vauxhall system to give you speed sensitive assistance.

1. Buy that £100 manual rack in the PH classifieds

2. Have it reconditioned

3. Have Lloyds give you electric power steering
How much does that cost ?