How much power ?

How much power ?

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M@H

11,296 posts

273 months

Monday 4th April 2005
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Pies said:
We are talking standard here , so can i join in


Nope.. Standard means Standard, not "fairly Standard"

HarryW

15,157 posts

270 months

Monday 4th April 2005
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Pies said:
We are talking standard here , so can i join in

Of course you can you have a standard(ish) car . I've chipped in and its a chim forum, did you mention that most standard 4ltr V8S's seem to make more than the equivilant Chim installation before .

Harry


PS sorry for the highjack chaps, just ignore us (us ususal)

sharkytvr

413 posts

230 months

Monday 4th April 2005
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sharkytvr said:

I have a rolling-road print from My Chim 500 which is putting out 258bhp at the wheels at 5553rpm - what is this putting out at the flywheel?


So - anyone got an opinion of what my car is making at the flywheel, given 258 at the wheels?

HarryW

15,157 posts

270 months

Monday 4th April 2005
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sharkytvr said:

sharkytvr said:

I have a rolling-road print from My Chim 500 which is putting out 258bhp at the wheels at 5553rpm - what is this putting out at the flywheel?



So - anyone got an opinion of what my car is making at the flywheel, given 258 at the wheels?

If it was making that much at the wheels , which is still quiet a lot even for a fettled 500 then 310-320 bhp corrected IMHO.
Most 'standard' 500's make around 225-230 bhp at the wheels again IMHO.

Harry

petros

2,441 posts

230 months

Monday 4th April 2005
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my 4.5 was on the Rolling road at Mech Repairs last month and recorded 219 bhp at the Flywheel before the Mods were carried out. From all accounts their r.r always gives a low figure and this equates to approx. 270 elsewhere.

SharkyTVR

413 posts

230 months

Monday 4th April 2005
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HarryW said:

sharkytvr said:


sharkytvr said:

I have a rolling-road print from My Chim 500 which is putting out 258bhp at the wheels at 5553rpm - what is this putting out at the flywheel?




So - anyone got an opinion of what my car is making at the flywheel, given 258 at the wheels?


If it was making that much at the wheels , which is still quiet a lot even for a fettled 500 then 310-320 bhp corrected IMHO.
Most 'standard' 500's make around 225-230 bhp at the wheels again IMHO.

Harry


Thanks Harry - yep, definitely at the wheels. Thanks for the info.

chimhunter

906 posts

250 months

Monday 4th April 2005
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M@H said:

..very good.. but we're talking Standard cars here.


Well, almost standard. Its only had the ACT smooth induction pipe and the MA work.

Next, bring on the heads, injectors and double plenum. BUWAHAHAHAHAHA

Sorry.



Not.


Rob

Painey

534 posts

257 months

Monday 4th April 2005
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sharkytvr said:


sharkytvr said:

I have a rolling-road print from My Chim 500 which is putting out 258bhp at the wheels at 5553rpm - what is this putting out at the flywheel?




So - anyone got an opinion of what my car is making at the flywheel, given 258 at the wheels?



As a rough guess I'd say it's probably very close to 300bhp, if anything slightly over, which is a lot!!! My reasons for saying this is my Griff 500 put's out slightly less than that and the difference on Austec's RR was 41bhp between Flywheel and A.T.W figures. How about Torque??

Cheers - Chris



>> Edited by Painey on Monday 4th April 23:57

R1C HHY

109 posts

235 months

Tuesday 5th April 2005
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Took my 4 ltr to austec a while ago and i seem to remember them quoting it at 230 at the flywheel.

M@H

11,296 posts

273 months

Tuesday 5th April 2005
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R1C HHY said:
Took my 4 ltr to austec a while ago and i seem to remember them quoting it at 230 at the flywheel.



Well if its standard 4.0 then Austecs RR is over-reading somewhat, or its the best 4.0 I've heard of

>> Edited by M@H on Tuesday 5th April 11:21

Dave 500

6,361 posts

243 months

Tuesday 5th April 2005
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My 5.0L which is standard produced 247bhp at the wheels and somthing like 270 lb/ft.

HarryW

15,157 posts

270 months

Tuesday 5th April 2005
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M@H said:

R1C HHY said:
Took my 4 ltr to austec a while ago and i seem to remember them quoting it at 230 at the flywheel.




Well if its standard 4.0 then Austecs RR is over-reading somewhat, or its the best 4.0 I've heard of

>> Edited by M@H on Tuesday 5th April 11:21

Quiet a few of the standard V8S's seem to make 230-240, if not more. Whereas the chims seem to be nearer 210-220 as standard, but there are always exceptions IMHO, some even 190 ish which is sorted V6 S country.

Harry

Podie

46,630 posts

276 months

Tuesday 5th April 2005
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HarryW said:

...some even 190 ish which is sorted V6 S country.

Harry


Surprised a V8S owner in my old S... he didn't seem very happy about it either

HarryW

15,157 posts

270 months

Tuesday 5th April 2005
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Podie said:

HarryW said:

...some even 190 ish which is sorted V6 S country.

Harry



Surprised a V8S owner in my old S... he didn't seem very happy about it either

best compliment normally is when you stop off after a 'run out' for a shandy and the question is asked cooly.............'whats under the bonnet' to which you reply [pies mode] its standard [/pies mode].

harry

Podie

46,630 posts

276 months

Tuesday 5th April 2005
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Gazboy said:

HarryW said:


M@H said:



R1C HHY said:
Took my 4 ltr to austec a while ago and i seem to remember them quoting it at 230 at the flywheel.






Well if its standard 4.0 then Austecs RR is over-reading somewhat, or its the best 4.0 I've heard of

>> Edited by M@H on Tuesday 5th April 11:21



Quiet a few of the standard V8S's seem to make 230-240, if not more. Whereas the chims seem to be nearer 210-220 as standard, but there are always exceptions IMHO, some even 190 ish which is sorted V6 S country.

Harry



Does the Chim have more ancileries to run?


Yeah.. a heater...

V8 Archie

4,703 posts

249 months

Tuesday 5th April 2005
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I got 240bhp/270lbft at the RR day last summer. That'll be at the fly though. (4.5L).

SharkyTVR

413 posts

230 months

Tuesday 5th April 2005
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Painey said:

sharkytvr said:



sharkytvr said:

I have a rolling-road print from My Chim 500 which is putting out 258bhp at the wheels at 5553rpm - what is this putting out at the flywheel?





So - anyone got an opinion of what my car is making at the flywheel, given 258 at the wheels?



As a rough guess I'd say it's probably very close to 300bhp, if anything slightly over, which is a lot!!! My reasons for saying this is my Griff 500 put's out slightly less than that and the difference on Austec's RR was 41bhp between Flywheel and A.T.W figures. How about Torque??

Cheers - Chris

>> Edited by Painey on Monday 4th April 23:57


Print indicating 286lb.ft at 3620 RPM (once again at the wheels)

stackmonkey

5,077 posts

250 months

Tuesday 5th April 2005
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If it helps at all, my Chim 500 Taraka was measured at 257bhp and 271lbft at the wheels at Holeshot, bradford less thana couple of weeks ago. TVR Power gave transmission losses at approx 20% (it's a late 95N car) giving engine figures of 320bhp and 340lb ft.

dlewis

315 posts

270 months

Wednesday 6th April 2005
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Austec RR gave 252bhp and 291ftlbs for a little 450, which was nice.

Mind you it is modified it has AC!

Dave

>> Edited by dlewis on Wednesday 6th April 15:03

HarryW

15,157 posts

270 months

Wednesday 6th April 2005
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dlewis said:
Austec RR gave 252bhp and 291ftlbs for a little 450, which was nice.

Mind you it is modified it has AC!

Dave

Ah I see a 50hp AC plant, shame it doesn't cool the car very well .
Was that wheels or flywheel BTW .

Harry