Will Mr. Wheeler consider the new MG ZT engine's
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If the write up is anything to go on, will TVR consider the ZT 260 or 385 engine and box. However what about the possible replacement for a dead Chimaera
you'll see the 260 0 - 60 not gob smacking, but think of the weight of huge saloon replaced with a slender TVR.
The ZT 260 utilises Ford’s well proven 4.6-litre V8 engine, widely used in North America to power the Mustang. Power is 260PS (hence the 260) and there's an even more impressive 302 lb-ft of torque available at 4000rpm. Top speed is limited to 155mph. 0-60mph is achievable in a claimed 6.2 seconds with the standing quarter mile done in 14.9 seconds.
There will also be the 4.6L 32-valve supercharged V8 engine with an alumium block will need to perform as well as it its outputs read (385 horsepower and 385 lb-ft of torque) in order to topple BMW's M5. According to MG's numbers, performance should be very appropriate, with a sub-5 second 0-60 mph sprint and a top speed of approximately 175mph Blimey..........
you'll see the 260 0 - 60 not gob smacking, but think of the weight of huge saloon replaced with a slender TVR. The ZT 260 utilises Ford’s well proven 4.6-litre V8 engine, widely used in North America to power the Mustang. Power is 260PS (hence the 260) and there's an even more impressive 302 lb-ft of torque available at 4000rpm. Top speed is limited to 155mph. 0-60mph is achievable in a claimed 6.2 seconds with the standing quarter mile done in 14.9 seconds.
There will also be the 4.6L 32-valve supercharged V8 engine with an alumium block will need to perform as well as it its outputs read (385 horsepower and 385 lb-ft of torque) in order to topple BMW's M5. According to MG's numbers, performance should be very appropriate, with a sub-5 second 0-60 mph sprint and a top speed of approximately 175mph Blimey..........
Thing is with this Mustang lump is somewhere along the line people using it as a crated engine seem to lose the plot.
In the 2000 model year Mustang GT the 4.6 as a minor service interval of 15,000 miles, no parts needed apart from a filter and a major interval of 100,000 miles (
), yet somewhere in the Atlantic...
In the 2000 model year Mustang GT the 4.6 as a minor service interval of 15,000 miles, no parts needed apart from a filter and a major interval of 100,000 miles (
), yet somewhere in the Atlantic...
Why do you think that TVR need to use someone else's engine? They have just spent the last 7 or 8 years improving their own engines, starting with the AJP V8 in the Cerbera. John Ravenscroft (the engine guy) has done some amazing work with those engines. They are full of character and rev smoothly and freely... Very much suiting the nature of the TVR.
It would be mad for them to waste all of this development time and money to do an about turn and go back to buying in an engine fomr an outside source...
If it is purley power that you are thinking of, then what about the speed 12 engine... 880bhp I believe and that was naturally aspirated!!!
I think that because the engines are so different to other cars on the market, that their uniqueness adds to the appeal.
Cheers,
Paul.
It would be mad for them to waste all of this development time and money to do an about turn and go back to buying in an engine fomr an outside source...
If it is purley power that you are thinking of, then what about the speed 12 engine... 880bhp I believe and that was naturally aspirated!!!
I think that because the engines are so different to other cars on the market, that their uniqueness adds to the appeal.
Cheers,
Paul.
plfrench said:
I think that because the engines are so different to other cars on the market, that their uniqueness adds to the appeal.
Paul.
Whilst this may well be the case would you be happy with this level of unreliability for £50K?
As a Chim owner I can tell you that I will not move up(?) the range until I can be sure of not getting lumbered with an engine rebuild that is measured in £1000s. As we speak today, I cannot see it ever happening.
Ivan
Personally I think there is still life in the Chimaera and Griffith.
Since TVR cite the loss of the Rover V8 as a viable power source as the reason for canning these cars, why not resurrect them with American V8 power? TVR could even claim they were going back to their roots by doing so.
Since TVR cite the loss of the Rover V8 as a viable power source as the reason for canning these cars, why not resurrect them with American V8 power? TVR could even claim they were going back to their roots by doing so.
Is there such a thing as a speed 6 engined car that has done more than 20k miles without engine problems. My Chimaera has done nearly 130k without a rebuild, its not rocket science but it works. Ford have spent many hours and millions of dollars developing this engine, so why don't Blackpool make use of it, after all they used the cobra engine back in the 60's to great effect
I see what you guys are saying about the reliability issue... and agree that this is not acceptable when buying a new car of ANY price these days let alone £50k. Aren't the problems with these earlier engines all but sorted now? Money that they would save by not buying in engines should be out towards tighter quality control. These cars are not mass produced, but a stricter production monitoring structure could surely be implemented without spoiling the hand built appeal.
Perhaps TVR should try going for some endurance records with a standard car to try and prove that the gremlins have been put to bed once and for all.
As far as the Griff and Chimaera are concerned, I was under the impression that these were deemed past their sell by date by the factory and were discontinued when the demand for them waned, as well as the emissions situation issue. ( I personally still love the shape of the Chimaera, but I understand why the factory would want to move on rather than do a Morgan and have the same shape for 40 years...)
My God I am waffling on now sorry! Also my boss wants me to do some work!!! Oh well
Perhaps TVR should try going for some endurance records with a standard car to try and prove that the gremlins have been put to bed once and for all.
As far as the Griff and Chimaera are concerned, I was under the impression that these were deemed past their sell by date by the factory and were discontinued when the demand for them waned, as well as the emissions situation issue. ( I personally still love the shape of the Chimaera, but I understand why the factory would want to move on rather than do a Morgan and have the same shape for 40 years...)
My God I am waffling on now sorry! Also my boss wants me to do some work!!! Oh well
plfrench said:
Aren't the problems with these earlier engines all but sorted now?
Exactly the same question I put to a dealer at the weekend. In short his answer was no. They have not been completely ironed out and he didn't think they would be for a while yet.
It's not just the reliability. 15,000 mile minor service interval? Yes please. 100,000 mile major? Bring it on.
Rob
Saw the MG XPower SV on the back of XK Engineering Factory truck, heading down the M42 on Thursday 2nd Oct. Looked bl***y smart, though at an anticipated 65K I'll not be ordering one just yet.
Perhaps it had broken down...
www.users.totalise.co.uk/~dsp22/MGcoupe/
Perhaps it had broken down...
www.users.totalise.co.uk/~dsp22/MGcoupe/
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