Refurbishing a Veneered Wooden Dash

Refurbishing a Veneered Wooden Dash

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ssc1

Original Poster:

456 posts

260 months

Friday 10th October 2003
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has anybody tried useing the wood effect stick on material as sold by halfords as a replacement for the plastic wood effect vaneer on the dashboard , if i am correct the original finish is plastic and not real wood so would this be a good sustitute ,my dash has a carbon fibre effect covering which looks ok but not as good as the original and was fitted by a TVR specialist.

Nickccc

1,682 posts

247 months

Friday 10th October 2003
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I would not have thought any replacement hallfrauds could provide will be anywhere near as good as your current carbon item.
I would be inclined to offer a swap,maybe someone on here might want it for their wood item.
If you fancy getting into that upside down fitting position that was shown here a couple of days ago..
Good luck

victormeldrew

8,293 posts

276 months

Friday 10th October 2003
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The original is wood veneer on a metal backing plate, not plastic at all! Halfords sticky back plastic is unlikely to be as effective. Though undoubtedly more so than carbon fibre or aluminium IMHO!



>> Edited by victormeldrew on Friday 10th October 13:44

tonyrec

3,984 posts

254 months

Friday 10th October 2003
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victormeldrew said:
The original is wood veneer on a metal backing plate, not plastic at all! Halfords sticky back plastic is unlikely to be as effective. Though undoubtedly more so than carbon fibre or aluminium IMHO!



Pleased that you missed the Stainless one out

>> Edited by tonyrec on Friday 10th October 14:10

jigs

1,840 posts

249 months

Friday 10th October 2003
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IMO The original wood veneer finished dash is the best - London Carriage Craft will reveneer your dash for £160 + VAT.

Podie

46,630 posts

274 months

Friday 10th October 2003
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jigs said:
IMO The original wood veneer finished dash is the best - London Carriage Craft will reveneer your dash for £160 + VAT.


not cheap is it?

yiw1393

23,018 posts

260 months

Friday 10th October 2003
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Is that - you supply the dash? i.e. take the veneer off yourself?

Got to be a cheaper alternative - local cabinet maker perhaps???

snarfy

131 posts

255 months

Saturday 11th October 2003
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Jigs,

I take it that doesn't include fitting costs with London Carriage Craft ?

jigs

1,840 posts

249 months

Saturday 11th October 2003
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No - you send them your old dash, they strip it and reveneer it. IMO with a far superior walnut veneer too(Rolls/Bentley standard). You remove and refit it yourself - not a hard job - 1 hour.

victormeldrew

8,293 posts

276 months

Thursday 16th October 2003
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£160 seems a bargain to me, thanks mine needs re-veneering, I know where to go now!

Podie

46,630 posts

274 months

Thursday 16th October 2003
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Advert in Sprint guys suggests you get a discount if you're a TVRCC member...

RichB

51,431 posts

283 months

Thursday 16th October 2003
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jigs said:
IMO The original wood veneer finished dash is the best
Pleased to see there are still some people around with good taste! Griff's and Chimaeras were intended to be finished off with acres of leather and chunks off walnut! Rich…

p.s. Yes it is real leather, indeed when I visited the factory to see my Griff in build a lady in the trim shop told me she remembered choosing a particular dash board because she thought the colour of the wood nicely matched the saddle leather I had chosen. She was right and it's a nice story to highlight the personal touches you get only with a hand-built car. Rich...

simpo two

85,147 posts

264 months

Thursday 16th October 2003
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jigs said:
IMO The original wood veneer finished dash is the best - London Carriage Craft will reveneer your dash for £160 + VAT.


Spot on. Amazing how many people assume that the walnut is fake. Certainly in S1/S2s it can be painted, but AFAIK all Griffs and later TVRs have real walnut. And yes, £160 for all that work is very good.

Simpo Two
Amateur Veneerer (but not in the Griff!)

jigs

1,840 posts

249 months

Thursday 16th October 2003
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Well said Simpo - brave of you to own up to having veneerer disease as well.

Podie

46,630 posts

274 months

Friday 17th October 2003
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simpo two said:

... but AFAIK all Griffs and later TVRs have real walnut.


Really? Didn't know that, but must admit I am somewhat surprised. Given the amount of heatsoak that TVR's incur, I'm surprised it lasts, as surely the wood would move and crack as a result of heating up and cooling down...?

Or have I misunderstood the amount that wood moves in cars? (I'm going on the fact that if I take a guitar into the cold and then back into somewhere warm, it needs tuning as the wood has moved).

RichB

51,431 posts

283 months

Friday 17th October 2003
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Podie said:

simpo two said:

... but AFAIK all Griffs and later TVRs have real walnut.



Really? Didn't know that, but must admit I am somewhat surprised. Given the amount of heatsoak that TVR's incur, I'm surprised it lasts, as surely the wood would move and crack as a result of heating up and cooling down...?

Or have I misunderstood the amount that wood moves in cars? (I'm going on the fact that if I take a guitar into the cold and then back into somewhere warm, it needs tuning as the wood has moved).
I will say again... "p.s. Yes it is real leather, indeed when I visited the factory to see my Griff in build a lady in the trim shop told me she remembered choosing a particular dash board because she thought the colour of the wood nicely matched the saddle leather I had chosen." Rich...

p.p.s. I saw the pile of blank dash-panels and I assure you they were wood. She even showed me a selection she was working on to show the difference in colour of the woods from dark conker colour through to lighter burnt toffee colour.

jigs

1,840 posts

249 months

Friday 17th October 2003
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Exactly Podie - and apparantly TVR didn't use the best glue to allow differential movement between the wood veneer and the metal backing - that's why they lift and crack. LCC assured me that the glue they use will allow movement between the walnut veneer and the metal backing without cracking.

markh

2,781 posts

274 months

Friday 17th October 2003
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Perhaps we could get the option of a thatched roof as well or lead for the windows and a new rear badge 'Ye olde chimaera'




RichB said:

jigs said:
IMO The original wood veneer finished dash is the best

Pleased to see there are still some people around with good taste! Griff's and Chimaeras were intended to be finished off with acres of leather and chunks off walnut! Rich…

p.s. Yes it is real leather, indeed when I visited the factory to see my Griff in build a lady in the trim shop told me she remembered choosing a particular dash board because she thought the colour of the wood nicely matched the saddle leather I had chosen. She was right and it's a nice story to highlight the personal touches you get only with a hand-built car. Rich...

simpo two

85,147 posts

264 months

Friday 17th October 2003
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jigs said:
Well said Simpo - brave of you to own up to having veneerer disease as well.


I love wood. Wait until next year when ally is out of fashion! (he said provocatively!)

Podie said:
Given the amount of heatsoak that TVR's incur, I'm surprised it lasts, as surely the wood would move and crack as a result of heating up and cooling down...?


It might be the ally backing which moves more: I don't think wood moves much with heat, only moisture. TVR wood dashes do seem prone to cracking but I thought that was caused by direct rays of the sun when parked outside pubs on sunny days!

If you have a close look at Seasider's silver Griff at the next Essex meet you'll see it's made with genuine tree.

Podie

46,630 posts

274 months

Friday 17th October 2003
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simpo two said:

It might be the ally backing which moves more: I don't think wood moves much with heat, only moisture. TVR wood dashes do seem prone to cracking but I thought that was caused by direct rays of the sun when parked outside pubs on sunny days!

If you have a close look at Seasider's silver Griff at the next Essex meet you'll see it's made with genuine tree.


Good point about the ally backing moving more... although if the car the heat generated by the engine / heatsoak may lead to moisture, given that it will heat and then cool...