What should it beat?
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Gotta agree with Jules.
Having recently sold the Chim 450 and bought a Cooper S the entry speeds you can gain with the Cooper S are quite phenomenal.
Sure the TVR will smash past it on any sort of straight but in situations where you are constantly moving the weight around then the Cooper FAR outclasses the TVR.
Personally I think its down to the traction lottery factor, every corner in the slightly damp felt a bit uneasy in the Tiv (and I appreciate it may have been the set up of my car) but on the same roads the Cooper just feels a shed load more 'planted'.
Having recently sold the Chim 450 and bought a Cooper S the entry speeds you can gain with the Cooper S are quite phenomenal.
Sure the TVR will smash past it on any sort of straight but in situations where you are constantly moving the weight around then the Cooper FAR outclasses the TVR.
Personally I think its down to the traction lottery factor, every corner in the slightly damp felt a bit uneasy in the Tiv (and I appreciate it may have been the set up of my car) but on the same roads the Cooper just feels a shed load more 'planted'.
mungo said:
your fiat turbo is faster than a zonda blah blah blah
your big bad wedge was faster than Bluebird and noisier than concorde IIRC. The Caterham could beat sports bikes...
Next local track day, £50 says my bog standard non HC Chimaera will post a better time. Deal?
Hahahahahahahaha!!!! KNEW that was coming!
Fop it, yeah... DEAL!
ok - date to be advised. might even be able to draw a crowd and sell tickets
mungo said:Although I have only driven a LCR a few times I would suggest that anyone who was familiar with a Tiv would give it a complete spanking
I agree with Joolz - My Leon Cupra R is far quicker than any TVR I have ever driven on my favourite A roads and closer to the cornering speeds I would achieve in my Caterham than any TVR was!
As I like to put my money where my mouth is .....
Any track, any time, any weather Mungo, lets see what gives
shnozz said:It was the adverse camber on turn two, it doesn't favour a front wheel drive car
you can be frank but sounds like you are starting on the excuses, Frank.
I'd have won in the cold/wet/warm/dry/different track (delete as appropriate)
It's harder for a short driver over the blind crest
etc etc
mungo said:
shnozz said:
you can be frank but sounds like you are starting on the excuses, Frank.
It was the adverse camber on turn two, it doesn't favour a front wheel drive car
I'd have won in the cold/wet/warm/dry/different track (delete as appropriate)
It's harder for a short driver over the blind crest
etc etc
To be honest I don't really care....
but I reckon I'll be quicker
another fantasy then
Plotloss said:
Whens Folembray?
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=68939&f=18&h=0
Not happening next year
But I imagine something else will be in it's place 
I have been out with mungo in the leon cupra on the twisties before. its a capable car but i personally dont think its quicker than my standard chim. its quicker than most things on the road, granted. For a cheap hatchback thats a fantastic achievement. i think its simply easier to drive FWD hatches on the limit as against RWD powerful cars. Once you find that limit, bye bye Fiat Turbo
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