Rear calipers

[SILICONE KID]

Thanks .please can any one explain what bearing carriers are .my front kit comprised of
2x calipers
2x carriers
2x brake pads
2x discs.
Are the ones on Fleabay the same calipers as the later set up ..

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ESCORT-SIERRA-COSWORTH-PR-RE...

Edited by SILICONE KID on Thursday 19th November 21:25

[Simon Says]

SILICONE KID said:

Thanks .please can any one explain what bearing carriers are .my front kit comprised of
2x calipers
2x carriers
2x brake pads
2x discs.
Are the ones on Fleabay the same calipers as the later set up ..

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ESCORT-SIERRA-COSWORTH-PR-RE...

Edited by SILICONE KID on Thursday 19th November 21:25

Spot on,those are the calipers you need(they come complete with carriers)the bearing carriers/hub assy are the part the caliper bolts to,the reason why you need these is because when you upgrade from 252>272mm the caliper needs to sit 10mm out from the hub centre to accommodate the larger disc diameter,the ears on the later hub/bearing carrier are longer by 10mm approx,unlike your front conversion Darren its a little more involved,not much work though really and you get to replace the wheel bearings at the same time(two birds at the same time and all that) i bagged some original Ford NOS calipers(yes your linky seller)brake discs and pads,followed by 2 s/hand hubs but fitted with new bearings all from Ebayers and a grand total of £280 the new handbrake cable i had in stock for 12 years as said already you keep your old hub flanges(the ones with wheel studs in)and you can use your old handbrake cable if you wish just remembered make sure you have access to the right size socket for the drive shaft hub nuts and possibly a breaker bar and assistant to stand on the brake pedal when you undo those nuts before you dismantle anything,if you have access to air tools and a compressor then better still.

Edited by Simon Says on Thursday 19th November 21:56

[Pupp]

Simon Says said:

SILICONE KID said:

Thanks .please can any one explain what bearing carriers are .my front kit comprised of
2x calipers
2x carriers
2x brake pads
2x discs.
Are the ones on Fleabay the same calipers as the later set up ..

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ESCORT-SIERRA-COSWORTH-PR-RE...

Edited by SILICONE KID on Thursday 19th November 21:25

Spot on,those are the calipers you need(they come complete with carriers)the bearing carriers/hub assy are the part the caliper bolts to,the reason why you need these is because when you upgrade from 252>272mm the caliper needs to sit 10mm out from the hub centre to accommodate the larger disc diameter,the ears on the later hub/bearing carrier are longer by 10mm approx,unlike your front conversion Darren its a little more involved,not much work though really and you get to replace the wheel bearings at the same time(two birds at the same time and all that) i bagged some original Ford NOS calipers(yes your linky seller)brake discs and pads,followed by 2 s/hand hubs but fitted with new bearings all from Ebayers and a grand total of £280 the new handbrake cable i had in stock for 12 years as said already you keep your old hub flanges(the ones with wheel studs in)and you can use your old handbrake cable if you wish just remembered make sure you have access to the right size socket for the drive shaft hub nuts and possibly a breaker bar and assistant to stand on the brake pedal when you undo those nuts before you dismantle anything,if you have access to air tools and a compressor then better still.

Edited by Simon Says on Thursday 19th November 21:56

So, are you not going to tell him about the left hand thread on the n/side hub nut? Rotten sod

[Simon Says]

Pupp said:

Simon Says said:

SILICONE KID said:

Thanks .please can any one explain what bearing carriers are .my front kit comprised of
2x calipers
2x carriers
2x brake pads
2x discs.
Are the ones on Fleabay the same calipers as the later set up ..

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ESCORT-SIERRA-COSWORTH-PR-RE...

Edited by SILICONE KID on Thursday 19th November 21:25

Spot on,those are the calipers you need(they come complete with carriers)the bearing carriers/hub assy are the part the caliper bolts to,the reason why you need these is because when you upgrade from 252>272mm the caliper needs to sit 10mm out from the hub centre to accommodate the larger disc diameter,the ears on the later hub/bearing carrier are longer by 10mm approx,unlike your front conversion Darren its a little more involved,not much work though really and you get to replace the wheel bearings at the same time(two birds at the same time and all that) i bagged some original Ford NOS calipers(yes your linky seller)brake discs and pads,followed by 2 s/hand hubs but fitted with new bearings all from Ebayers and a grand total of £280 the new handbrake cable i had in stock for 12 years as said already you keep your old hub flanges(the ones with wheel studs in)and you can use your old handbrake cable if you wish just remembered make sure you have access to the right size socket for the drive shaft hub nuts and possibly a breaker bar and assistant to stand on the brake pedal when you undo those nuts before you dismantle anything,if you have access to air tools and a compressor then better still.

Edited by Simon Says on Thursday 19th November 21:56

So, are you not going to tell him about the left hand thread on the n/side hub nut? Rotten sod

Sorry about that Darren Pupps right,a slight oversight on my part,should also remind you the hub nuts are very tight and have to be torqued up somewhat too,the luxury of having a kitted out workshop,ramp and air tools i guess

[SILICONE KID]

Got That can you give me a link for the bearing carriers new bearings and discs .still a little un sure about the hand brake cable bit . cheers

[Simon Says]

Hi Darren handbrake cable is off any Sierra with disc brake rears,ok here you go pads genuine http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ford-Granada-Cosworth-Rear-B... discs http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FORD-Escort-Orion-2-0-Coswor... rear wheel bearings are for Granada mk3/Sierra Cosworth/Escort Cosworth good kits should come with both right hand and left hand thread nuts in the same kit,some kits come pt numbered differently n/s and o/s because of this.

[SILICONE KID]

Just purchased the calipers and brackets , pads and discs .some one mentioned you can re use the hand brake cable , if not what are the part numbers for bearing carriers , hand brake cable thanks

[SILICONE KID]

just got this Email regarding the bearing carriers , its now geting very expensive .

there are cosworth bearing carriers which mean you can fit the larger discs,
i do have some,
but i like to sell the hubs driveshafts stub axles and bearing carriers at £199.99 a set,
as they are very populatr for kitcars etc and sell vwell at that price.
regards

Edited by SILICONE KID on Sunday 22 November 10:54

[spend]

It's to be hoped the placebo effect will convince you it was worth it when you have installed them then (as it always seems to)

[Simon Says]

SILICONE KID said:

just got this Email regarding the bearing carriers , its now geting very expensive .

there are cosworth bearing carriers which mean you can fit the larger discs,
i do have some,
but i like to sell the hubs driveshafts stub axles and bearing carriers at £199.99 a set,
as they are very populatr for kitcars etc and sell vwell at that price.
regards

Edited by SILICONE KID on Sunday 22 November 10:54

Thats weird i purchased just the 2 hubs for £80 from that breaker Silicone a guy from the Griff forums put me onto this guy initially

[SILICONE KID]

Just cracked it , got a pair for £45 delivered
http://www.cosworthrsspares.co.uk/index.cfm?contac...

[Simon Says]

Silicone you have more mail

[SILICONE KID]

i followed your link for the discs but not sure if there correct .the supplier told me they are different to the 2WD rear Sierra cosworth discs .Just looking for wheel bearings but the ones shown are sealed mine are the adjustabe roller type .can these be changed for sealed ..

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FORD-Escort-Orion-2-0-Coswor...

Edited by SILICONE KID on Thursday 26th November 22:56

[Simon Says]

Thats the ones Darren i have checked the specs,the 2wd cossy as solids that may be the confusion(what you got already);) the wheel bearings should be these http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FORD-Escort-2-0i-Cosworth-95... dont take notice of the picture.

[Simon Says]

Darren have just checked my catalogue,numbers you want for rear bearing kits are Quinton Hazell QWB 532 and QWB 533 are 2 part numbers because they have right hand and left hand threaded nuts in these are good numbers that can be crossed over to another manufacturers part numbers

[SILICONE KID]

Thanks for being so patient , its a mine field. Some one must of made this set up with a lot of trial and error .

Cheers .

[slideways]

SILICONE KID said:

Thanks for being so patient , its a mine field. Some one must of made this set up with a lot of trial and error .

Cheers .

Daz would you be so kind as to list all the part numbers and links for this upgrade now you have it sorted,
I think it will help a lot of people who are looking to do what you are doing me included.
Thanks

[SILICONE KID]

Thanks for being so patient , its a mine field. Some one must of made this set up with a lot of trial and error .

Cheers .

[slideways]

SILICONE KID said:

Thanks for being so patient , its a mine field. Some one must of made this set up with a lot of trial and error .

Cheers .

blimey thats a big echo in here

[Simon Says]

SILICONE KID said:

Thanks for being so patient , its a mine field. Some one must of made this set up with a lot of trial and error .

Cheers .

Not really Darren,its Sierra & Escort Cosworth 4x4 rear systems,those calipers,brake pads,hub/bearing carriers are also shared by late Granada 2.9i and 2.9i 24v Cosworth(only those items as they are 5 stud)the brake pads are the same as any Sierra/Granada as long as it ABS fitted vented non vented etc(some have pad sensor warning wires but are the same pad)and the hubs/bearing carriers are from any Granada/Sierra as long as it as the vented rear 273mm disc system rather than the early 253mm solid rears,the bearings are from any Sierra 2.0i,XR4i(both have to be with ABS/disc rear)Sierra Cosworth/Escort Cosworth 2wd/4wd & Granada as long as its disc brake reared,oh yeh the handbrake cable is from any Sierra as long as it is fitted with ABS/rear disc brakes,Granada cable is different/its to long PHEW i found out this info when i did rear disc conversions to Ford live axled cars e.g the 2.8i Capri to match the uprated fronts,but that conversion needed a one-off caliper carrier bracket but thats another story and yes i had Capri's also now they was underbraked

Edited by Simon Says on Friday 27th November 22:40