Leak test

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shnozz

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27,419 posts

270 months

Saturday 31st January 2004
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well i have tried copious amounts of silicon sealant under the bonnet, next it was the in car water test. Seems to be that water is leaking in from this point.



now I everything seems to be intact so I am wondering how I can fix this leak. I seem to have noticed on some chims the rubber seal extends further down towards the floor, whereas mine is like this...



Am I missing a bit of rubber?

TheHobbit

1,189 posts

250 months

Saturday 31st January 2004
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where abouts inside is getting wet shnozz?

just been outside to see how mine is coping with the weather, and the carpets behind the seats are soaked

dry towels deployed.....

Pies

13,116 posts

255 months

Saturday 31st January 2004
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Is this what the "elephant ears" are for ?

might be way of though

shnozz

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27,419 posts

270 months

Saturday 31st January 2004
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Pies said:
Is this what the "elephant ears" are for ?

might be way of though


yeah did think that Pies, thought I would throw it open to the PH masses.

shnozz

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27,419 posts

270 months

Saturday 31st January 2004
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TheHobbit said:
where abouts inside is getting wet shnozz?


its getting wet behind both seats and also the drivers footwell. I am talking about a fair amount of water too. The car is immaculate where the previous owner kept it garaged and it was never taken out in the rain. Unfortunately, my garage is at such a stupid angle i cant get her in there and wasnt very impressed with the full cover I bought for her to try and keep her dry.

TheHobbit

1,189 posts

250 months

Saturday 31st January 2004
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shnozz said:

TheHobbit said:
where abouts inside is getting wet shnozz?



its getting wet behind both seats and also the drivers footwell. I am talking about a fair amount of water too. The car is immaculate where the previous owner kept it garaged and it was never taken out in the rain. Unfortunately, my garage is at such a stupid angle i cant get her in there and wasnt very impressed with the full cover I bought for her to try and keep her dry.


I've got the elephant ears on mine, and have had the roof re-proofed, but still getting wet behind the seats..... dunno where its coming in now

Big Al.

68,798 posts

257 months

Saturday 31st January 2004
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TheHobbit said:

shnozz said:


TheHobbit said:
where abouts inside is getting wet shnozz?




its getting wet behind both seats and also the drivers footwell. I am talking about a fair amount of water too. The car is immaculate where the previous owner kept it garaged and it was never taken out in the rain. Unfortunately, my garage is at such a stupid angle i cant get her in there and wasnt very impressed with the full cover I bought for her to try and keep her dry.



I've got the elephant ears on mine, and have had the roof re-proofed, but still getting wet behind the seats..... dunno where its coming in now


First things first, if you ain't sealed the hood your on a hiding to nothing!
Nearly an inch of water in mine before I sealed the hood.
Had to bail it out literally.

Seriously 4-5, 6 coats of sealant, whatever it takes, and don't forget the stitching.

Shnozz, got your mail, no problems pair of ears will be in the post Monday. Oh


TheHobbit

1,189 posts

250 months

Sunday 1st February 2004
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Big Al. said:
First things first, if you ain't sealed the hood your on a hiding to nothing!
Nearly an inch of water in mine before I sealed the hood.
Had to bail it out literally.

Seriously 4-5, 6 coats of sealant, whatever it takes, and don't forget the stitching.

Shnozz, got your mail, no problems pair of ears will be in the post Monday. Oh



Thanks Big Al.... I had Peninsula do it while it was down there (renovo I think), but the water still ain't beading.... I think it needs more coats, and I've bought a 5 litre tub of Thompsons and a brush but don't I need 6 hours of nice dry weather in order to let it dry with the roof off?? I don't have anywhere indoors or undercover to put it while it drys

Big Al.

68,798 posts

257 months

Sunday 1st February 2004
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TheHobbit said:


Thanks Big Al.... I had Peninsula do it while it was down there (renovo I think), but the water still ain't beading.... I think it needs more coats, and I've bought a 5 litre tub of Thompsons and a brush but don't I need 6 hours of nice dry weather in order to let it dry with the roof off?? I don't have anywhere indoors or undercover to put it while it drys


A day like today is ideal, you should be able to get a couple of coats on before it gets dark. OK the ideal is six hours drying time. If you don't flood the mohair it will only take a couple of hours.

BTW
If you should get any on the paintwork, just a gentle wipe over it over with some white spirits will remove it.

Hope this helps.

TheHobbit

1,189 posts

250 months

Sunday 1st February 2004
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Big Al. said:
A day like today is ideal, you should be able to get a couple of coats on before it gets dark. OK the ideal is six hours drying time. If you don't flood the mohair it will only take a couple of hours.

BTW
If you should get any on the paintwork, just a gentle wipe over it over with some white spirits will remove it.

Hope this helps.


Its still wet at the moment -- shouldn't it be dry before treating? -- so can't start on it yet.

Big Al.

68,798 posts

257 months

Sunday 1st February 2004
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Sorry, Suns out in Sussex!

Forgot not everybody's got Sussex weather.

Yes, ideally it should be dry before treating.

the dodger

2,375 posts

262 months

Sunday 1st February 2004
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My (limited) experience of this pointed solely to the door seals - oh, and boot lid seal. Previous Wedge was accidentally subjected to unexpected massive downpoor before I made room in the garage. Result = 3ins water behind seats and in boot floor. Micro-examination showed no leak at all from hood. Front mats dry but damp witness lines from bottom of doors over the sills. I think water was running off the door glass down inside doors, out of the drainholes onto the sills and flooding the area thence bridging the seal into the car. I couldn't actually see a problem with the seals but this was the only explanation I could think of. Similar in the boot - just too much water in a short time and the seal wasn't man enough to hold it back. Cure for me? - keep it in the garage and only use on dry days. No experience (yet) with Chim. Not much of an answer for most of you but maybe worth really checking the door seals.

TheHobbit

1,189 posts

250 months

Sunday 1st February 2004
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The GT6 needs a service/MOT soon, and I'm thinking about leaving with the guy that does it for me for a week. Then I can stick the Chim in the garage where it will dry out. I can then treat the roof each night when I get home from work, and leave it to dry in the garage overnight. In the mean time we have a rotation of towels that are either behind the seats, or on the radiators in the hall/lounge/kitchen still have a sense of humour about it!

Glad you had some nice weather Al.... shame ours couldn't decide what to do. We got some practice stopping on garage forcourts in pouring rain, slapping the roof on, and driving away a couple of times, much to the amusement of the people refueling their cars

TheHobbit

1,189 posts

250 months

Saturday 7th February 2004
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Big Al. said:
Sorry, Suns out in Sussex!

Forgot not everybody's got Sussex weather.

Yes, ideally it should be dry before treating.


OK. Surrey weather in Wilts today.

Do I need to take the roof panel out to treat it so I can get to the edges, and aid not getting Thompsons on the rubber seals, or can I do it in situ?

Also..... on the off chance it pi55es down before its dry, will it do any damage?

Cheers,

Karl

Big Al.

68,798 posts

257 months

Saturday 7th February 2004
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Sorry I'm a bit late on the scene!
You've probably finished it by now.
If you haven't you can treat it with the roof in situ but,
1) the rubber seals will get sticky if you don't wipe them over with white spirit.
2) Yes, its as well to do the underside edge fabric as well.

If it rains just after you have done it? Not sure, only ever done it when there was a dry weather window of at least a couple of hours.





TheHobbit

1,189 posts

250 months

Saturday 7th February 2004
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Big Al. said:
Sorry I'm a bit late on the scene!
You've probably finished it by now.
If you haven't you can treat it with the roof in situ but,
1) the rubber seals will get sticky if you don't wipe them over with white spirit.
2) Yes, its as well to do the underside edge fabric as well.

If it rains just after you have done it? Not sure, only ever done it when there was a dry weather window of at least a couple of hours.


Al,

It rained a little before I started, but I was busy sikaflexing the brake fluid resevoir and the cables/pipes that go through just by it. I also sealed all around the rubber bumper strip with a bead of sikaflex to try and dry the boot out.
I took the roof panel out and got a good coat on it, but was more interested in getting the rear section treated as I think water is getting in through the stitching that holds the velcro patch on, so I got 3 good coats on it. It drizzled briefly on it once I was done, but not long enough to worry me really. If the weather is nice tomorrow I'll stick another couple of coats on it.

I have all the carpets from the drivers footwell over radiators at the moment, as I found the while the top mat was dry, the bottom layer was sodden. I think water is getting around the door seal as it runs off the very edge of the windscreen. I'll keep my eye on this and try and seal it. It also feels a little damp at the front where the steering column goes through. Anyone else had damp/wet problems here? If so, how did you deal with it? I can't see where it comes through from the engine side.

Thanks,

Karl

cmj

201 posts

246 months

Sunday 8th February 2004
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Exactly the same. Wetter near door seal and damp near pedals. See link tried everything but still wet.

www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=76840&f=8&h=0

If you find it before me please let me know....

TheHobbit

1,189 posts

250 months

Sunday 8th February 2004
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cmj said:
Exactly the same. Wetter near door seal and damp near pedals. See link tried everything but still wet.

www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=76840&f=8&h=0

If you find it before me please let me know....


I think it may be coming in around the door seal. as you follow the seal down the A post, it passes a bolt head that holds something on inside, and then the seal goes around a couple of corners. Mine looks like its come away a little there, and if I pull it away, the carpet is discoloured behind, suggesting water flow. I'm gonna see what I can do about sealing it...... will let you know how I get on.....

Cheers,

Karl

TheHobbit

1,189 posts

250 months

Saturday 13th March 2004
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TheHobbit said:

I think it may be coming in around the door seal. as you follow the seal down the A post, it passes a bolt head that holds something on inside, and then the seal goes around a couple of corners. Mine looks like its come away a little there, and if I pull it away, the carpet is discoloured behind, suggesting water flow. I'm gonna see what I can do about sealing it...... will let you know how I get on.....

Cheers,

Karl


OK.... everywhere is dry apart from the footwell. Water is running down the A post seal, round the back of the seal, and into the footwell. When I pull the seal away from the bodywork, I found the leather is folded around and tucked behind the seal, meaning the seal can't do it's job properly (see pic below)

Anyone had this and solved it???

Thanks in advance,

Karl