Internal frame for offside wing mirror
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Does anybody have any recommendations for good places to get the internal frame for an offside (right) wing mirror - just broken mine due to heavy handedness.
It's broken in a similar place to this one from the TVRCC website:
Thanks!
P.s. what's the rules on driving without a wing mirror? Is it that you have to have 2 of the three rearview mirrors???
It's broken in a similar place to this one from the TVRCC website:
Thanks!
P.s. what's the rules on driving without a wing mirror? Is it that you have to have 2 of the three rearview mirrors???
N/S door mirror on the Chim I've just bought is all floppy, not had chance to investigate yet but suspect will also look like that inside ?
Don't know how you stand legally,but years ago cars were sold with just an interior mirror and wing mirrors were an option fitted at the dealer. Hard to believe now but we would drill a hole in wing and fit a mirror, no protection for bare metal exposed (same fitting radio ariels) !
Don't know how you stand legally,but years ago cars were sold with just an interior mirror and wing mirrors were an option fitted at the dealer. Hard to believe now but we would drill a hole in wing and fit a mirror, no protection for bare metal exposed (same fitting radio ariels) !
Oh ... balls ... ever say something then wish you hadn't! As was always the case at school, I've not been paying much attention to the basics and am now having to guess.
Still, I've done alright so far so here goes.
I would think facelift is the later Corrado mirror, although not as plentiful as, say, an escort or astra mirror a damn sight easier to find that a CX mirror. Mines an early L reg (1994) and has Citroen CX mirrors. I'd get a pic but the body is under a cover on a trailer miles away at the mo...
Still, I've done alright so far so here goes.
I would think facelift is the later Corrado mirror, although not as plentiful as, say, an escort or astra mirror a damn sight easier to find that a CX mirror. Mines an early L reg (1994) and has Citroen CX mirrors. I'd get a pic but the body is under a cover on a trailer miles away at the mo...
mav 1 said:
Thanks Sam, and others.
Car is a '98 'R' reg.
Mirror looks like this:
Which is a CX mirror.
Googling for Corrado wing mirrors, they look just a bit too square.
Slideways:
Chemical metal sounds like fun - where did you get it?
Hi Mav 1 / all,Car is a '98 'R' reg.
Mirror looks like this:
Which is a CX mirror.
Googling for Corrado wing mirrors, they look just a bit too square.
Slideways:
Chemical metal sounds like fun - where did you get it?
Can you tell me where that photo came from?
The arrow seems to be pointing to an allen cap head grub screw that may help to resolve my floppy drivers door mirror?
My mirror is suffering from a serious limp on, could tightening this screw be the simple solution to my problem?
If not, does anyone know where I can buy door mirror Viagra?
Thanks all, Dave.
Chimpaholic,
That piccy came from here (found as a result of google image searching for Citroen CX wing mirror):
http://www.andywhittaker.com/Cars/LotusEspritGT3/D...
Here is another detailed thread on how to refix the door mirror:
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
I had a loose mirror about three years ago and tightening that screw was the answer. I used Steve Heath's instructions in the bible to do it - it took about 2 hours and I had to resort to removing the mirror, tightening the grub screw and putting it all back on. I found the grub screw impossible to reach with the mirror on. Loosening the tripod with the mirror in place is extremely hard (I used lots of WD40).
That piccy came from here (found as a result of google image searching for Citroen CX wing mirror):
http://www.andywhittaker.com/Cars/LotusEspritGT3/D...
Here is another detailed thread on how to refix the door mirror:
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
I had a loose mirror about three years ago and tightening that screw was the answer. I used Steve Heath's instructions in the bible to do it - it took about 2 hours and I had to resort to removing the mirror, tightening the grub screw and putting it all back on. I found the grub screw impossible to reach with the mirror on. Loosening the tripod with the mirror in place is extremely hard (I used lots of WD40).
mav 1 said:
Chimpaholic,
That piccy came from here (found as a result of google image searching for Citroen CX wing mirror):
http://www.andywhittaker.com/Cars/LotusEspritGT3/D...
Here is another detailed thread on how to refix the door mirror:
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
I had a loose mirror about three years ago and tightening that screw was the answer. I used Steve Heath's instructions in the bible to do it - it took about 2 hours and I had to resort to removing the mirror, tightening the grub screw and putting it all back on. I found the grub screw impossible to reach with the mirror on. Loosening the tripod with the mirror in place is extremely hard (I used lots of WD40).
Nice one mate, many thanks for the advise.That piccy came from here (found as a result of google image searching for Citroen CX wing mirror):
http://www.andywhittaker.com/Cars/LotusEspritGT3/D...
Here is another detailed thread on how to refix the door mirror:
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
I had a loose mirror about three years ago and tightening that screw was the answer. I used Steve Heath's instructions in the bible to do it - it took about 2 hours and I had to resort to removing the mirror, tightening the grub screw and putting it all back on. I found the grub screw impossible to reach with the mirror on. Loosening the tripod with the mirror in place is extremely hard (I used lots of WD40).
It seems this is a common problem, I will attempt to find a couple of hours as soon as we leave the ice age.
What would we do without the support and generous knowledge sharing of our fellow TVR owners?
Best regards, Dave.
One of the better articles on this from a Griff owner of course 
May be of use.
http://www.tvr-car-club.co.uk/forum/forum_posts.as...
May be of use.http://www.tvr-car-club.co.uk/forum/forum_posts.as...
Timja said:
I believe the rule is that you must have 2 mirrors, 1 of which must be on the drivers side.
HTH.
This is correct for the MoT test for all cars manufactured after 1st Aug 1978. However, whether or not it would be illegal to drive a car with only one mirror, I'm not sure. HTH.
For example, you have to have working headlamps for the MoT test but unless it's dark, you don't even have to have headlamp filaments working on your car otherwise.
5.0ltr said:
One of the better articles on this from a Griff owner of course May be of use.
http://www.tvr-car-club.co.uk/forum/forum_posts.as...
Thanks for this but it looks like I need to be a member of the TVR club for this one. May be of use.http://www.tvr-car-club.co.uk/forum/forum_posts.as...
Shame.
Thanks anyway. Dave.
5.0ltr said:
One of the better articles on this from a Griff owner of course May be of use.
http://www.tvr-car-club.co.uk/forum/forum_posts.as...
That's what I need to do - thanks 5.0ltr. I knew those Griff drivers were useful for something..... May be of use.http://www.tvr-car-club.co.uk/forum/forum_posts.as...
Chimpaholic - it's a description on how to repair a broken frame (the exact issue I have) with a coupl eof aluminium plates. And you should join the TVRCC - the magazine alone is worth the subscription fee IMO!
When some scrote broke my off side mirror (the frame snapped in exactly the point you have highlighted) I trawled fleabay for a CX mirror, as all I needed was the internal I could bid on mirrors with cracked housings/glass, this means if you are lucky you can pick on up for a tenner. Also you don't need to restrict yourself to the electrically adjusted ones, the manual CX mirros have the same internal frame.
Chimpaholic said:
mav 1 said:
Thanks Sam, and others.
Car is a '98 'R' reg.
Mirror looks like this:
Which is a CX mirror.
Googling for Corrado wing mirrors, they look just a bit too square.
Slideways:
Chemical metal sounds like fun - where did you get it?
Hi Mav 1 / all,Car is a '98 'R' reg.
Mirror looks like this:
Which is a CX mirror.
Googling for Corrado wing mirrors, they look just a bit too square.
Slideways:
Chemical metal sounds like fun - where did you get it?
Can you tell me where that photo came from?
The arrow seems to be pointing to an allen cap head grub screw that may help to resolve my floppy drivers door mirror?
My mirror is suffering from a serious limp on, could tightening this screw be the simple solution to my problem?
mav 1 said:
5.0ltr said:
One of the better articles on this from a Griff owner of course May be of use.
http://www.tvr-car-club.co.uk/forum/forum_posts.as...
That's what I need to do - thanks 5.0ltr. I knew those Griff drivers were useful for something..... May be of use.http://www.tvr-car-club.co.uk/forum/forum_posts.as...
Somewhere I have some links to mirror parts and suppliers which I will post up. I've repaired my wing mirror, and have finally got round to sitting down and writing it up. I used a similar, but slightly different method to the one 5.0ltr linked to above but I think it needs a bit of a clearer write up. So hear goes....
What I have done is create a backing plate out of aluminium (duralumin) then pop-riveted the broken bits of the frame onto it. It differs to the TVRCC link above in that it isn't a sandwich of two pieces of aluminium. I've also bored out the 'stalk' (broken bit) of the frame, tapped it through and replaced the annoying Torx bolt with a bolt and locking nut (to allow for easier removal and tightening.
First off, protect the door of the car with a rag or some such gaffer-taped into position.
To remove the wing mirror - twist off the tripod (lots of WD40 and a screwdriver gently inserted through to twist the tripod without bending it. Unscrew the mirror unit, remove the mirror glass (small black slidy thing underneath the mirror), then disconnect the heating plugs, remove the motor and disconnect the plug (and then leverl the three pins out so that the wire can be removed through the tripod), finally cut the wires to the door entry button (to be repaired with bullet connectors later). Unscrew the two halves of the casing.
Then you should have removed the wing mirror - it looks like this:
To get the broken bit from the turret, you will need a Torx screw, some dexterity, and plenty of skin to spare on your fingers:
This is the bolt / washer order:
Then replace the Torx bolt with a normal bolt, washer and locking nut:
It will require drilling out the 'stalk' so that you can extend the thread to take the bolt all the way through:
This bit is actually done from the other side of the 'stalk' but I put it down the wrong way when we set it up for the photo!:
Then cut up and file off a bit of aluminium to take the rivets (make sure it doesn't interfere with the wing mirror casing when reassembled:
Pop rivet the aluminium to the frame:
And pop-rivet on the broken bit (don't forget to drill out the hole in the aluminium for your new bolt:
I went a bit overboard with the rivets!
Finally reassemble the bolt, washers, rubber, nuts etc, tighten well.
At the car, poke through all the wires, reconnect everything (I extended the door button wires and put on bullet connectors).
Then pre-twist the mirror before screwing it in (so that all the cables un-twist as it screws on.
Everything should now be very tight and the mirror should operate on the ratchet (I had to take it all off again and tighten up my bolt/locking nut a bit more).
The only major issue I had was the plastic sheeth that sits between the mirror casing and the car is impossible to put on and do up the bolt/nut at the same time so I ended up cutting it (one cut, to open it up into a 'C') then pulling it in to place. I should go and superglue it so it's sealed, but it's cold outside....
I can't say where I got the durlumin from (my old man had some lying around) - it was about 3mm thick.
And I'd never tapped a thread before, so make sure you know how to do it before having a go (again, my old man had the gear and know-how for doing it).
Hope this helps. At least I've written it up for when my passenger mirror falls off.
What I have done is create a backing plate out of aluminium (duralumin) then pop-riveted the broken bits of the frame onto it. It differs to the TVRCC link above in that it isn't a sandwich of two pieces of aluminium. I've also bored out the 'stalk' (broken bit) of the frame, tapped it through and replaced the annoying Torx bolt with a bolt and locking nut (to allow for easier removal and tightening.
First off, protect the door of the car with a rag or some such gaffer-taped into position.
To remove the wing mirror - twist off the tripod (lots of WD40 and a screwdriver gently inserted through to twist the tripod without bending it. Unscrew the mirror unit, remove the mirror glass (small black slidy thing underneath the mirror), then disconnect the heating plugs, remove the motor and disconnect the plug (and then leverl the three pins out so that the wire can be removed through the tripod), finally cut the wires to the door entry button (to be repaired with bullet connectors later). Unscrew the two halves of the casing.
Then you should have removed the wing mirror - it looks like this:
To get the broken bit from the turret, you will need a Torx screw, some dexterity, and plenty of skin to spare on your fingers:
This is the bolt / washer order:
Then replace the Torx bolt with a normal bolt, washer and locking nut:
It will require drilling out the 'stalk' so that you can extend the thread to take the bolt all the way through:
This bit is actually done from the other side of the 'stalk' but I put it down the wrong way when we set it up for the photo!:
Then cut up and file off a bit of aluminium to take the rivets (make sure it doesn't interfere with the wing mirror casing when reassembled:
Pop rivet the aluminium to the frame:
And pop-rivet on the broken bit (don't forget to drill out the hole in the aluminium for your new bolt:
I went a bit overboard with the rivets!
Finally reassemble the bolt, washers, rubber, nuts etc, tighten well.
At the car, poke through all the wires, reconnect everything (I extended the door button wires and put on bullet connectors).
Then pre-twist the mirror before screwing it in (so that all the cables un-twist as it screws on.
Everything should now be very tight and the mirror should operate on the ratchet (I had to take it all off again and tighten up my bolt/locking nut a bit more).
The only major issue I had was the plastic sheeth that sits between the mirror casing and the car is impossible to put on and do up the bolt/nut at the same time so I ended up cutting it (one cut, to open it up into a 'C') then pulling it in to place. I should go and superglue it so it's sealed, but it's cold outside....
I can't say where I got the durlumin from (my old man had some lying around) - it was about 3mm thick.
And I'd never tapped a thread before, so make sure you know how to do it before having a go (again, my old man had the gear and know-how for doing it).
Hope this helps. At least I've written it up for when my passenger mirror falls off.
Edited by mav 1 on Monday 25th January 17:26
Thanks mav 1,
Those photos and your instructions help me a lot.
I don't think my mirror is broken like yours, its just loose.
I spent an hour on it yesterday before I lost the light, the offer of a blast in a Tuscan saw me starting way too late.
My mirror rotates but refuses to unscrew, it just spins & spins.
It seems the male threaded portion of the mirror has seized in the female threaded boss that's bonded into the door skin.
The tripod and mirror frame is spinning independently to the threaded mounting boss.
I whipped the door trim off to have a proper look but it looks like the solution to removing the mirror for me will be to remove the Torx bolt.
At least with the door trim off I can now do a proper lube job on the slow electric window.
I have tried without success to gain access to the elusive alen headed grub screw, the black plastic collar wont move out of the way to reveal it.
I am sure the damn thing just needs tightening up but I need to have a fresh look in daylight.
Any tips from our resident Chimaera mirror experts are gratefully accepted.
Thanks, Dave.
Those photos and your instructions help me a lot.
I don't think my mirror is broken like yours, its just loose.
I spent an hour on it yesterday before I lost the light, the offer of a blast in a Tuscan saw me starting way too late.
My mirror rotates but refuses to unscrew, it just spins & spins.
It seems the male threaded portion of the mirror has seized in the female threaded boss that's bonded into the door skin.
The tripod and mirror frame is spinning independently to the threaded mounting boss.
I whipped the door trim off to have a proper look but it looks like the solution to removing the mirror for me will be to remove the Torx bolt.
At least with the door trim off I can now do a proper lube job on the slow electric window.
I have tried without success to gain access to the elusive alen headed grub screw, the black plastic collar wont move out of the way to reveal it.
I am sure the damn thing just needs tightening up but I need to have a fresh look in daylight.
Any tips from our resident Chimaera mirror experts are gratefully accepted.
Thanks, Dave.
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