Internal frame for offside wing mirror
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Chimpaholic,
I had a similar issue with my mirror 2 years ago - it definitely sounds like a loose grub screw. The only way I could get the threaded bit unscrewed was to spray a load of WD40 in there, leave it for a while, then in a very convuluted way use screwdrivers to 'hammer' and twist the threaded bit until it finally turned. This was probably not the best way to do it, and if I'd slipped with the screwdrivers it could have gone into the door, but I could find no other way to do it.
Mav.
I had a similar issue with my mirror 2 years ago - it definitely sounds like a loose grub screw. The only way I could get the threaded bit unscrewed was to spray a load of WD40 in there, leave it for a while, then in a very convuluted way use screwdrivers to 'hammer' and twist the threaded bit until it finally turned. This was probably not the best way to do it, and if I'd slipped with the screwdrivers it could have gone into the door, but I could find no other way to do it.
Mav.
mav 1 said:
Chimpaholic,
I had a similar issue with my mirror 2 years ago - it definitely sounds like a loose grub screw. The only way I could get the threaded bit unscrewed was to spray a load of WD40 in there, leave it for a while, then in a very convuluted way use screwdrivers to 'hammer' and twist the threaded bit until it finally turned. This was probably not the best way to do it, and if I'd slipped with the screwdrivers it could have gone into the door, but I could find no other way to do it.
Mav.
I had a similar issue with my mirror 2 years ago - it definitely sounds like a loose grub screw. The only way I could get the threaded bit unscrewed was to spray a load of WD40 in there, leave it for a while, then in a very convuluted way use screwdrivers to 'hammer' and twist the threaded bit until it finally turned. This was probably not the best way to do it, and if I'd slipped with the screwdrivers it could have gone into the door, but I could find no other way to do it.
Mav.
Sounds scary, I was thinking of trying some right angle cir-clip pliers and lashings of WD40.Wish me luck.
Just taken my floppy mirror off, but it turns out that it has been 'repaired' before and the entire tripod bit is in 2 pieces. I may start looking for better replacements 
ETA
Just found the part for £10 on Clever Trevor, for some reason i thought they were a lot more expensive than that. Will get it ordered on Monday
ETA
Just found the part for £10 on Clever Trevor, for some reason i thought they were a lot more expensive than that. Will get it ordered on Monday
Edited by lewis s on Sunday 31st January 14:27
lewis s said:
Just taken my floppy mirror off, but it turns out that it has been 'repaired' before and the entire tripod bit is in 2 pieces. I may start looking for better replacements
ETA
Just found the part for £10 on Clever Trevor, for some reason i thought they were a lot more expensive than that. Will get it ordered on Monday
Hi Lewis/all, ETA
Just found the part for £10 on Clever Trevor, for some reason i thought they were a lot more expensive than that. Will get it ordered on Monday
Edited by lewis s on Sunday 31st January 14:27
Still trying to get the floppy mirror off my car and its sending me mad.
The damn thing just rotates on the part that threads into the door.
The threaded boss is completely seized, I have lubed it and have been trying to shift it using a hammer and a screwdriver as a drift.
I stopped this approach as I doubt the monkey metal will take much more violence before it fractures.
I cant find the alen headed grub screw but at least I can now see the T30 Torx screw.
Getting on that Torx screw is a nightmare, its driving me mad.
Any tips?
Chimpaholic said:
lewis s said:
Just taken my floppy mirror off, but it turns out that it has been 'repaired' before and the entire tripod bit is in 2 pieces. I may start looking for better replacements
ETA
Just found the part for £10 on Clever Trevor, for some reason i thought they were a lot more expensive than that. Will get it ordered on Monday
Hi Lewis/all, ETA
Just found the part for £10 on Clever Trevor, for some reason i thought they were a lot more expensive than that. Will get it ordered on Monday
Edited by lewis s on Sunday 31st January 14:27
Still trying to get the floppy mirror off my car and its sending me mad.
The damn thing just rotates on the part that threads into the door.
The threaded boss is completely seized, I have lubed it and have been trying to shift it using a hammer and a screwdriver as a drift.
I stopped this approach as I doubt the monkey metal will take much more violence before it fractures.
I cant find the alen headed grub screw but at least I can now see the T30 Torx screw.
Getting on that Torx screw is a nightmare, its driving me mad.
Any tips?
(thats a no btw
)Can't really help you with the jammed thread - you just need to find a way to create a 'screwdriver' for it - maybe bent nose pliers??
As for getting on the Torx bolt - note easy. I showed in my last set of pictures above that I used a small Torx adaptor and an odd-shaped set of pliers (but I don't know what the pliers are called I'm afraid) as normal pliers just allowed the Torx bit to rotate.
As for getting on the Torx bolt - note easy. I showed in my last set of pictures above that I used a small Torx adaptor and an odd-shaped set of pliers (but I don't know what the pliers are called I'm afraid) as normal pliers just allowed the Torx bit to rotate.
Hi Mav1/all,
Yipeeee! I finally fixed the damn spinning door mirror yesterday
Turned out it was the alan headed grub screw after all, its totally impossible to tighten it with the mirror fitted to the car.
Once I had removed the complete mirror assembly from the car it was a simple fix.
Removing the threaded portion from the nut thats fibreglassed into the door was hell.
Lots of WD40 and leaving it a week did the trick, but it still took a hammer and a blunt screwdriver to get it turning.
Many thanks to everyone for the photos & tips.
Dave.
Yipeeee! I finally fixed the damn spinning door mirror yesterday
Turned out it was the alan headed grub screw after all, its totally impossible to tighten it with the mirror fitted to the car.
Once I had removed the complete mirror assembly from the car it was a simple fix.
Removing the threaded portion from the nut thats fibreglassed into the door was hell.
Lots of WD40 and leaving it a week did the trick, but it still took a hammer and a blunt screwdriver to get it turning.
Many thanks to everyone for the photos & tips.
Dave.
Bringing up an old one here but what a s
t job this is to do!!!!
My mirror/assembly fell off whilst driving a couple of days ago......had to hold it in place until I got back home (hand dropping off with chill factor of -250 degrees c...).
ordered part from clevertrevor, came fast but costly postage! Not dissing them just a comment...! Cant argue with service.
Anyhoo, still trying to remove broken tripod base (also cannot get glass assembly off-aaaaargh!), sprayed lots of wd40 onto screw base on door, struggling like mad and impossible to remove grub screw at base of tripod, located in a ticht space on top of tripod base....aaarrrrgggghhhh!!!!!!!!
Had to share and if anyone knows of an easy way out of this, let me know, I may still be alive...............
t job this is to do!!!!My mirror/assembly fell off whilst driving a couple of days ago......had to hold it in place until I got back home (hand dropping off with chill factor of -250 degrees c...).
ordered part from clevertrevor, came fast but costly postage! Not dissing them just a comment...! Cant argue with service.
Anyhoo, still trying to remove broken tripod base (also cannot get glass assembly off-aaaaargh!), sprayed lots of wd40 onto screw base on door, struggling like mad and impossible to remove grub screw at base of tripod, located in a ticht space on top of tripod base....aaarrrrgggghhhh!!!!!!!!
Had to share and if anyone knows of an easy way out of this, let me know, I may still be alive...............
Dave, you don't need to cut the wires. Get a Bic ballpoint pen and shove the cap over each of the pins in the connector. This releases the 'spring' that locks them in the plastic connector; the wires, once free of the connector, can be pulled back through the door.
It has to be a Bic pen, mind! The cap fits perfectly. Go gently with it though as it deforms easily. It should last long enough to do five wires though.
It has to be a Bic pen, mind! The cap fits perfectly. Go gently with it though as it deforms easily. It should last long enough to do five wires though.
mav 1 said:
I've repaired my wing mirror, and have finally got round to sitting down and writing it up. I used a similar, but slightly different method to the one 5.0ltr linked to above but I think it needs a bit of a clearer write up. So hear goes....
What I have done is create a backing plate out of aluminium (duralumin) then pop-riveted the broken bits of the frame onto it. It differs to the TVRCC link above in that it isn't a sandwich of two pieces of aluminium. I've also bored out the 'stalk' (broken bit) of the frame, tapped it through and replaced the annoying Torx bolt with a bolt and locking nut (to allow for easier removal and tightening.
First off, protect the door of the car with a rag or some such gaffer-taped into position.
To remove the wing mirror - twist off the tripod (lots of WD40 and a screwdriver gently inserted through to twist the tripod without bending it. Unscrew the mirror unit, remove the mirror glass (small black slidy thing underneath the mirror), then disconnect the heating plugs, remove the motor and disconnect the plug (and then leverl the three pins out so that the wire can be removed through the tripod), finally cut the wires to the door entry button (to be repaired with bullet connectors later). Unscrew the two halves of the casing.
Then you should have removed the wing mirror - it looks like this:
To get the broken bit from the turret, you will need a Torx screw, some dexterity, and plenty of skin to spare on your fingers:
This is the bolt / washer order:
Then replace the Torx bolt with a normal bolt, washer and locking nut:
It will require drilling out the 'stalk' so that you can extend the thread to take the bolt all the way through:
This bit is actually done from the other side of the 'stalk' but I put it down the wrong way when we set it up for the photo!:
Then cut up and file off a bit of aluminium to take the rivets (make sure it doesn't interfere with the wing mirror casing when reassembled:
Pop rivet the aluminium to the frame:
And pop-rivet on the broken bit (don't forget to drill out the hole in the aluminium for your new bolt:
I went a bit overboard with the rivets!
Finally reassemble the bolt, washers, rubber, nuts etc, tighten well.
At the car, poke through all the wires, reconnect everything (I extended the door button wires and put on bullet connectors).
Then pre-twist the mirror before screwing it in (so that all the cables un-twist as it screws on.
Everything should now be very tight and the mirror should operate on the ratchet (I had to take it all off again and tighten up my bolt/locking nut a bit more).
The only major issue I had was the plastic sheeth that sits between the mirror casing and the car is impossible to put on and do up the bolt/nut at the same time so I ended up cutting it (one cut, to open it up into a 'C') then pulling it in to place. I should go and superglue it so it's sealed, but it's cold outside....
I can't say where I got the durlumin from (my old man had some lying around) - it was about 3mm thick.
And I'd never tapped a thread before, so make sure you know how to do it before having a go (again, my old man had the gear and know-how for doing it).
Hope this helps. At least I've written it up for when my passenger mirror falls off.
I know I've posted a new thread on here but just managed to find this old thread, can I remove the mirror including the three pronged tripod affair from the outside. Do I need to remove the whole mirror from the inside of the door first?What I have done is create a backing plate out of aluminium (duralumin) then pop-riveted the broken bits of the frame onto it. It differs to the TVRCC link above in that it isn't a sandwich of two pieces of aluminium. I've also bored out the 'stalk' (broken bit) of the frame, tapped it through and replaced the annoying Torx bolt with a bolt and locking nut (to allow for easier removal and tightening.
First off, protect the door of the car with a rag or some such gaffer-taped into position.
To remove the wing mirror - twist off the tripod (lots of WD40 and a screwdriver gently inserted through to twist the tripod without bending it. Unscrew the mirror unit, remove the mirror glass (small black slidy thing underneath the mirror), then disconnect the heating plugs, remove the motor and disconnect the plug (and then leverl the three pins out so that the wire can be removed through the tripod), finally cut the wires to the door entry button (to be repaired with bullet connectors later). Unscrew the two halves of the casing.
Then you should have removed the wing mirror - it looks like this:
To get the broken bit from the turret, you will need a Torx screw, some dexterity, and plenty of skin to spare on your fingers:
This is the bolt / washer order:
Then replace the Torx bolt with a normal bolt, washer and locking nut:
It will require drilling out the 'stalk' so that you can extend the thread to take the bolt all the way through:
This bit is actually done from the other side of the 'stalk' but I put it down the wrong way when we set it up for the photo!:
Then cut up and file off a bit of aluminium to take the rivets (make sure it doesn't interfere with the wing mirror casing when reassembled:
Pop rivet the aluminium to the frame:
And pop-rivet on the broken bit (don't forget to drill out the hole in the aluminium for your new bolt:
I went a bit overboard with the rivets!
Finally reassemble the bolt, washers, rubber, nuts etc, tighten well.
At the car, poke through all the wires, reconnect everything (I extended the door button wires and put on bullet connectors).
Then pre-twist the mirror before screwing it in (so that all the cables un-twist as it screws on.
Everything should now be very tight and the mirror should operate on the ratchet (I had to take it all off again and tighten up my bolt/locking nut a bit more).
The only major issue I had was the plastic sheeth that sits between the mirror casing and the car is impossible to put on and do up the bolt/nut at the same time so I ended up cutting it (one cut, to open it up into a 'C') then pulling it in to place. I should go and superglue it so it's sealed, but it's cold outside....
I can't say where I got the durlumin from (my old man had some lying around) - it was about 3mm thick.
And I'd never tapped a thread before, so make sure you know how to do it before having a go (again, my old man had the gear and know-how for doing it).
Hope this helps. At least I've written it up for when my passenger mirror falls off.
Edited by mav 1 on Monday 25th January 17:26
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