Who buys modern day MGs?

Who buys modern day MGs?

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daytonavrs

781 posts

85 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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Ignoring the current round of "Roewe" eseque cars from MG.

This was originally interesting but the final delivery looks nothing like the original concept to me??

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/mg-e-m...


vixen1700

23,093 posts

271 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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Can't stand the sight of modern day MGs, really have no idea how they can use the name on something so far removed from what Morris Garages cars were. Have no idea who on Earth buys them. confused

At least the '80s Metros and Maestros had a degree of 'sportiness'.

This was exactly what my last MG looked like:



Twenty-eight years ago. Loved it!

kambites

67,635 posts

222 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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vixen1700 said:
Have no idea who on Earth buys them. confused
If you bother to read this thread you'll find out.

vixen1700

23,093 posts

271 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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kambites said:
If you bother to read this thread you'll find out.
I did and now I know you're looking at one for your mum. smile

Mr lestat

4,318 posts

191 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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vixen1700 said:
kambites said:
If you bother to read this thread you'll find out.
I did and now I know you're looking at one for your mum. smile
An ideal cheap car for anyone’s Mum. They aren’t too bothered about most things generally. My mum on having a new Peugeot 106 the only thing she could say was that the indicator tick was louder than in her last car. 😂

vixen1700

23,093 posts

271 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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Mr lestat said:
An ideal cheap car for anyone’s Mum.
Yes, you're probably right. My who on Earth buys them question was probably rhetorical and coming from somebody who likes MGs of old. hehe

InitialDave

11,973 posts

120 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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Mr lestat said:
An ideal cheap car for anyone’s Mum. They aren’t too bothered about most things generally. My mum on having a new Peugeot 106 the only thing she could say was that the indicator tick was louder than in her last car. ??
I wish. We're trying to explain to my mum why she can't have a DBS for her 70th birthday.

Mr lestat

4,318 posts

191 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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InitialDave said:
Mr lestat said:
An ideal cheap car for anyone’s Mum. They aren’t too bothered about most things generally. My mum on having a new Peugeot 106 the only thing she could say was that the indicator tick was louder than in her last car. ??
I wish. We're trying to explain to my mum why she can't have a DBS for her 70th birthday.
Always the exception. The only thing my mum cared about was “is it easy To park”. Apart from that she wasn’t too fussed whatever it was.

FA57REN

1,023 posts

56 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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Joey Deacon said:
Are modern MGs that cheap in reality compared to a Kia or Hyundai?
Have you seen the price of the Korean brands recently?

A Picanto starts at 9.5k for a 1.0, about the save as an MG3 and more than a Citigo. A Dacia Logan is a grand cheaper!


Edited by FA57REN on Sunday 12th July 15:22

Evercross

6,053 posts

65 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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stickleback123 said:
Anyone who gives it the "Mercedes/BMW are white goods too and no different to Ford/Peugeot/Whatever" have no idea what they are talking about.
There's always one person who starts a strawman argument in these threads.....

stickleback123 said:
Get underneath and have a good look at the chassis engineering; one set of cars will have lots of really nice aluminium parts, double wishbones at the front for many (fancy dual pivot double wishbones on some), multilink at the rear again with lots of expensive high quality aluminium parts. Another set will be a load of stamped steel, 100% McPherson struts at the front, very possibly a torsion beam at the rear, everything made as cheaply as possible. Check out the bushes, notice that one set of cars have all sorts of interesting different designs and some may be fluid filled for extra NVH isolation...

While we're here have a look at the exhaust mounts; one set have rubber donuts indistinguishable from the ones used in the 70s and another will have complex parts to better isolate the car from exhaust noise and vibration.

Look at how much of the underside is clad, at the pieces to direct air. Or don't if it's an actual white goods car.....
...and so he drones on.

The definition of a white goods car is one bought by people who do not know or care about any of the above. You are actually kind of proving the point. Ask yourself the percentage of Mercedes/BMW owners who are aware of what you have said there. I'd bet my pension the percentage is in single figures.

Plus, stop comparing MGs with anything that costs between 4 and 30 times their price. Senseless, and anyone who is in the know knows that the 'premium' brands cheap out on the engineering in their lower, lesser models, supplying bog-standard parts and stamped steel wishbones but the same badge to an unsuspecting purchaser buying into an image. How crestfallen would an otherwise ignorant A-Class Merc owner be if you told them it was a Renault engine under their bonnet, or the MINI owner blissfully unaware that their car shares an engine with a Peugeot?

What difference does it make really though, because a costly car can still be 'white goods'. Likewise an inexpensive car can still be a reasoned choice.

A 'white goods' car is not defined by the car itself but by the attitude of the person buying it.

Edited by Evercross on Sunday 12th July 18:54

kambites

67,635 posts

222 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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vixen1700 said:
kambites said:
If you bother to read this thread you'll find out.
I did and now I know you're looking at one for your mum. smile
Not sure where you got that idea from! I said she's the sort of person who would buy one if she was after a car. She in fact has a Kia she's quite happy with. smile

I'm looking to buy one for me or at least to serve as our family car, which in practice means more for my wife because I mostly drive the Lotus. We're interested in it not because it's the best car on the market, it's clearly far from it, but because it may well be the best value.

I loved my MGB, it's probably the car I got most emotionally attached to of all of those I've owned and I think it's a shame that the MG of old no longer exists... but that doesn't make the new MGs any less valid cars for people who want what they offer.


Edited by kambites on Sunday 12th July 19:03

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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kambites said:
Not sure where you got that idea from! I said she's the sort of person who would buy one if she was after a car. She in fact has a Kia she's quite happy with. smile

I'm looking to buy one for me or at least to serve as our family car, which in practice means more for my wife because I mostly drive the Lotus. We're interested in it not because it's the best car on the market, it's clearly far from it, but because it may well be the best value.

I loved my MGB, it's probably the car I got most emotionally attached to of all of those I've owned and I think it's a shame that the MG of old no longer exists... but that doesn't make the new MGs any less valid cars for people who want what they offer.


Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 12th July 19:03
Ha, well that explains why you're are so defensive of them then. How does the value work when you factor in depreciation?

kambites

67,635 posts

222 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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Argleton said:
Ha, well that explains why you're are so defensive of them then. How does the value work when you factor in depreciation?
Not sure why you think it's explain anything of the sort? It's not in any way shape or form the same company anymore, I don't see the relevance of it happening to carry the same badge. Badge has never really meant much to me anyway.

Depreciation on EVs is pretty minimal. If it wasn't, we wouldn't be considering an MG, we'd get something better second-hand. hehe

wibble cb

3,621 posts

208 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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daytonavrs said:
Ignoring the current round of "Roewe" eseque cars from MG.

This was originally interesting but the final delivery looks nothing like the original concept to me??

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/mg-e-m...
Started out being an Aston Martin Vanquish wannabee, but the red later version seems to have gone a bit Tesla ( not an improvement either)...


Lee Jones Jnr

1,724 posts

171 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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InitialDave said:
I wish. We're trying to explain to my mum why she can't have a DBS for her 70th birthday.
Why can't she?

InitialDave

11,973 posts

120 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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Lee Jones Jnr said:
Why can't she?
Can't afford one, old boy!

leef44

4,448 posts

154 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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Having just read this thread, the one thing that strikes me is a lot of poor reviews about the quality/feel of the engine.
So it's 1.5 NA with over 100bhp, over 40 mpg but lethargic.

These statistics match my Suzuki Ignis which is an exciting fizzy revvy engine.

Can it really be that bad or are people comparing it to a Clio 182 or EP3 Type-R confused

XRMike

213 posts

127 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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Has anyone noticed that the glass on these isn't even UV tinted (like 90% of vehicles on the road are).
They are VERY popular with the motability scheme, I see them day in day out in the healthcare sector as they offer lots of space (particularly for wheelchairs) and are cheap motoring.

BenRichards89

670 posts

136 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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leef44 said:
Having just read this thread, the one thing that strikes me is a lot of poor reviews about the quality/feel of the engine.
So it's 1.5 NA with over 100bhp, over 40 mpg but lethargic.
It really is that bad. It's not a patch on a 1.4 K Series. Easily the worst thing about the MG3 I had.

AlexRS2782

8,056 posts

214 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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BenRichards89 said:
leef44 said:
Having just read this thread, the one thing that strikes me is a lot of poor reviews about the quality/feel of the engine.
So it's 1.5 NA with over 100bhp, over 40 mpg but lethargic.
It really is that bad. It's not a patch on a 1.4 K Series. Easily the worst thing about the MG3 I had.
I remember driving an MG3 back in 2015 after gaining it as a courtesy car and thinking how bad the engine was compared to the 1.4 in my mums ZR. I'm also fairly sure that the MG3 engine & emissions actually meant it was more expensive to tax than any of the similar sized / priced cars in the market it was pitched against.