Does the oil get back from the tank?

Does the oil get back from the tank?

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BertBert

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212 months

Sunday 22nd January 2012
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THought I'd seperate out this topic as it interests me. How does the oil get back from the tank into the sump? Talking current spec 1500 here.
Bert

LCM

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198 months

Sunday 22nd January 2012
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BertBert said:
THought I'd seperate out this topic as it interests me. How does the oil get back from the tank into the sump? Talking current spec 1500 here.
Bert
1 - Hydrostatic pressure (sump is lower than tank)
2 - As it was explained to me. There is gravity feed from the tank to an oil gallery that drops down to feed a cup-like thingy from which the (Standard Suzuki) pressure pump picks up its supply (assuming that one is using the Big R system and not a closed loop Pace one) just like it would with a wet sump.
3 - This may explain why (if you log dynamic oil pressure) you may be surprised to see what looks like surge with a "dry sump" system. I've certainly seen this with my 1500 dry sump and, if I wasn't going out to play tomorrow and spending the rest of the week trying to get my re-fitted office up and running, I'd look at some data from other BIG R dry sump engines that I've had.

BertBert

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19,070 posts

212 months

Sunday 22nd January 2012
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LCM said:
1 - Hydrostatic pressure (sump is lower than tank)
2 - As it was explained to me. There is gravity feed from the tank to an oil gallery that drops down to feed a cup-like thingy from which the (Standard Suzuki) pressure pump picks up its supply (assuming that one is using the Big R system and not a closed loop Pace one) just like it would with a wet sump.
3 - This may explain why (if you log dynamic oil pressure) you may be surprised to see what looks like surge with a "dry sump" system. I've certainly seen this with my 1500 dry sump and, if I wasn't going out to play tomorrow and spending the rest of the week trying to get my re-fitted office up and running, I'd look at some data from other BIG R dry sump engines that I've had.
It doesn't seem to do that on the current sump. The feed from the tank goes straight to a pickup that leads to the pressure pump. The pipe coming down from the engine (pressure pump) seals to the bottom of the sump with an O ring. It's def not a cup-like thingy.

That's why I wondered how the oil got back. Must be a recent imrpovement.

Bert