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Atom Ant said:
Unfortunately we trailered to Bedford on Friday and within the last 5 miles or so there was snowfall. Although we managed to arrive just outside of the briefing time the whole site was closed and we were turned away. So we were none too pleased that no one had let us know during our journey. Anyway Brands Hatch is now booked for 13th Feb to do shake down.
Not a great start!Looks like my decision to go to Oulton Park on Saturday was a good one, although I didn't take the Radical because it was much too cold - (for me, not the car), so took the Clio instead. At least it had a heater.
Good luck at Brands.
painen said:
British weather !
I hope when you get out it is a better day.
Annoyingly the car I wanted ( from James Guess ) has sold.
I have a limited budget and this was up for £17.950
So if anyone hears of an SR1 for sale let me know I have around £18k
A cheap Radical may be the more expensive car to buy in the long run!I hope when you get out it is a better day.
Annoyingly the car I wanted ( from James Guess ) has sold.
I have a limited budget and this was up for £17.950
So if anyone hears of an SR1 for sale let me know I have around £18k
I believe James Guess car might have had an engine refresh but radical life many SR1 components at 60hrs and unless they have been replaced, a bunch of stuff there may have seen some 80 or so hours and might need at least having a look at. Maybe not so important for a trackday.
The £22k car on ebay with 1 season and not too much testing at 32 hours either, would actually be the one I would have a look at and maybe they would take an offer seeing as it has been advertised for a while.
Hi all, we did Brands on Sunday and it turned out to be a great day. The track in the morning was very damp for a couple of hours so following the noise testing (measuring in at 100dB static for a 105dB limited day) I took it out for a few warm up laps and guess what I spun in Clearways, it was so slippery even at snails pace. I think the tyres needed quite a lot of laps to become efficient maybe after storing the car during winter. Anyway I am looking for excuses really.
Radical support on the day was spot on we learnt a lot about running the car and checking chain tension, tyre pressures, wheel torques, oil and temps all day long. I feel confident we can run the car ourselves next time.
In the afternoon the track had a decent dry line and we felt the cars agility come into its own with strong braking power, fast turn in and good turn of speed. On our next track day I have got to work out the petrol consumption so the correct amount can be supplied to the car for the amount of laps required.
After tracking a road car(996 GT3)this is a whole new ball game and there are loads of things to check before and during the drive, its not just a get in and drive car. Overall it was an epic day though and we are looking forward to the next one.
There was also an SR3 there going very well, anyone on here if so sorry as we didn't get a chance to chat?
Radical support on the day was spot on we learnt a lot about running the car and checking chain tension, tyre pressures, wheel torques, oil and temps all day long. I feel confident we can run the car ourselves next time.
In the afternoon the track had a decent dry line and we felt the cars agility come into its own with strong braking power, fast turn in and good turn of speed. On our next track day I have got to work out the petrol consumption so the correct amount can be supplied to the car for the amount of laps required.
After tracking a road car(996 GT3)this is a whole new ball game and there are loads of things to check before and during the drive, its not just a get in and drive car. Overall it was an epic day though and we are looking forward to the next one.
There was also an SR3 there going very well, anyone on here if so sorry as we didn't get a chance to chat?
Atom Ant said:
Hi all, we did Brands on Sunday and it turned out to be a great day. The track in the morning was very damp for a couple of hours so following the noise testing (measuring in at 100dB static for a 105dB limited day) I took it out for a few warm up laps and guess what I spun in Clearways, it was so slippery even at snails pace. I think the tyres needed quite a lot of laps to become efficient maybe after storing the car during winter. Anyway I am looking for excuses really.
Radical support on the day was spot on we learnt a lot about running the car and checking chain tension, tyre pressures, wheel torques, oil and temps all day long. I feel confident we can run the car ourselves next time.
In the afternoon the track had a decent dry line and we felt the cars agility come into its own with strong braking power, fast turn in and good turn of speed. On our next track day I have got to work out the petrol consumption so the correct amount can be supplied to the car for the amount of laps required.
After tracking a road car(996 GT3)this is a whole new ball game and there are loads of things to check before and during the drive, its not just a get in and drive car. Overall it was an epic day though and we are looking forward to the next one.
There was also an SR3 there going very well, anyone on here if so sorry as we didn't get a chance to chat?
Hi ThereRadical support on the day was spot on we learnt a lot about running the car and checking chain tension, tyre pressures, wheel torques, oil and temps all day long. I feel confident we can run the car ourselves next time.
In the afternoon the track had a decent dry line and we felt the cars agility come into its own with strong braking power, fast turn in and good turn of speed. On our next track day I have got to work out the petrol consumption so the correct amount can be supplied to the car for the amount of laps required.
After tracking a road car(996 GT3)this is a whole new ball game and there are loads of things to check before and during the drive, its not just a get in and drive car. Overall it was an epic day though and we are looking forward to the next one.
There was also an SR3 there going very well, anyone on here if so sorry as we didn't get a chance to chat?
It was me (Gary) in the photo, we were fulfilling our promise of hot laps as a raffle prize we donated recently. As well as getting a chance to check the car out after winter
Hi GAXOR (Gary)nice SR3 RS, you were going very well, I moved out of your way on quite a few occasions. To be honest there was so much traffic out there until later in the day I decided to yield to everyone who wanted to get by. I thought I saw your trailer exit through the 'IN' tunnel just before the end of the day, we were going to do the same thing but the track gates then opened to finish the session. How much room was there in that tunnel for these very long loads only we are still learning?
Atom Ant said:
Hi GAXOR (Gary)nice SR3 RS, you were going very well, I moved out of your way on quite a few occasions. To be honest there was so much traffic out there until later in the day I decided to yield to everyone who wanted to get by. I thought I saw your trailer exit through the 'IN' tunnel just before the end of the day, we were going to do the same thing but the track gates then opened to finish the session. How much room was there in that tunnel for these very long loads only we are still learning?
Yes it was busy, but generally well behaved I thought. I hope we didn't put you off your stroke when passing. It wasn't us going through the tunnel (We have 1 7.5t Race Truck)
The only way is to drain the tank, put in a measured amount, drive a measured distance, drain it again to find the consumption and keep a track to estimate how much is left.
As you will be pessimistic to avoid running dry you will eventually fill the tank as I did. I then ran almost a whole season without putting any in and still pumped out nearly 3 gallons when we changed the tank for a small hill climb sized tank.
As you will be pessimistic to avoid running dry you will eventually fill the tank as I did. I then ran almost a whole season without putting any in and still pumped out nearly 3 gallons when we changed the tank for a small hill climb sized tank.
Like Angus says, pump your tank out; use the dry break until it just starts to cavitate - don't keep going for ages to get a Sir Chris for emptiness because all you'll succeed in doing is getting air locks and/or even more likely knackering the fuel pump.
If you're racing, put in 20 litres, which is plenty enough for a 20 minute race plus the green flag lap. Usually you'll come back with at least 3 litres and often a bit more, sometimes nearer 4 litres. BTW consumption can be a bit mysterious and very variable, sometimes it seems you'll use less when you expect it to be more.
Some people get really clever with their fuel putting in 18 litres etc for a 20 minuter but they are the ones that come unstuck when there's a restart etc. I should say KISS and pop in 20 litres; that's what Radical Hero Darren Luke used to do and he won the RCC and the Golden Helmet, so that extra fuel load didn't make that much difference to him in the overall scheme of things.
Trackdays? Well it mostly depends on the pace the surrounding cars enable you to carry, where all the factors come into play i.e. the track and numbers and types of other cars. If you want to keep it simple I should say call 40 litres a full tank that should give you not far off an hours total running time from fire it up to turn it off. So about three hours at Brands Indy on a busy allsorts trackday
Or about 3/4hour if you're going to Radical's Exclusively Radical Track & Test Day @ Silv GP on 12 March 2015. 
BTW do remember that Radicals don't like starting with much less than about 10 litres in the tank especially after they've stood for a few days or even a few hours. Nice fresh fuel every time, never more than about a month old ............. and never stuff that's the best part of a bloody season old
HTH
Trev
If you're racing, put in 20 litres, which is plenty enough for a 20 minute race plus the green flag lap. Usually you'll come back with at least 3 litres and often a bit more, sometimes nearer 4 litres. BTW consumption can be a bit mysterious and very variable, sometimes it seems you'll use less when you expect it to be more.
Some people get really clever with their fuel putting in 18 litres etc for a 20 minuter but they are the ones that come unstuck when there's a restart etc. I should say KISS and pop in 20 litres; that's what Radical Hero Darren Luke used to do and he won the RCC and the Golden Helmet, so that extra fuel load didn't make that much difference to him in the overall scheme of things.
Trackdays? Well it mostly depends on the pace the surrounding cars enable you to carry, where all the factors come into play i.e. the track and numbers and types of other cars. If you want to keep it simple I should say call 40 litres a full tank that should give you not far off an hours total running time from fire it up to turn it off. So about three hours at Brands Indy on a busy allsorts trackday
Or about 3/4hour if you're going to Radical's Exclusively Radical Track & Test Day @ Silv GP on 12 March 2015. BTW do remember that Radicals don't like starting with much less than about 10 litres in the tank especially after they've stood for a few days or even a few hours. Nice fresh fuel every time, never more than about a month old ............. and never stuff that's the best part of a bloody season old
HTH
Trev
racing - start with empty tank ( not literally ),add say 20 litres for qualifying. end of session you've got lap data etc to calculate and estimate + 3 litres for race.
Track day. start with 20 litres and add say 5 litres after every session. completely empty at lunchtime and start again. its not worth running out though, and your pace is not going to be affected by extra fuel...
Just a variation of trevs post really....
Track day. start with 20 litres and add say 5 litres after every session. completely empty at lunchtime and start again. its not worth running out though, and your pace is not going to be affected by extra fuel...
Just a variation of trevs post really....
You should have a red dry break on the fuel pipe on N/S behind engine quite high up,with a rubber cap. You need to buy the femail fitting and a tube, all standard stuff. Then there is a wire by the chassis below It with a little 2 pin plug, with fuel drain written on a yellow sleeve.If you put a live on one of the terminals it will run the fuel pump without ignition and you can empty the tank. I have a really good man that can and he made up a fuel drain pipe with dry break and permanent fused switch for this so its easy. Man that can is near Guildford and comes to me near Bagshot if you want his info. Very good and reasonable motor sport tech!
double d racing said:
racing - start with empty tank ( not literally ),add say 20 litres for qualifying. end of session you've got lap data etc to calculate and estimate + 3 litres for race.
Track day. start with 20 litres and add say 5 litres after every session. completely empty at lunchtime and start again. its not worth running out though, and your pace is not going to be affected by extra fuel...
Just a variation of trevs post really....
A nice variation DD. I know you think I am a smart arse git and to prove you right...Track day. start with 20 litres and add say 5 litres after every session. completely empty at lunchtime and start again. its not worth running out though, and your pace is not going to be affected by extra fuel...
Just a variation of trevs post really....
ok start of the day I put in 20 litres
do session 1, full on 20 mins, end up with 5 litres left
as you say, put in 5 litres
so session 2, another full on 20 mins.
Oh hold on I've run out of fuel before the end. Now how did that happen?
I know I am a smart arse git and to prove you right...
ok start of the day I put in 200 litres
do session 1, full on 2 mins, end up with 50 litres left
as you say, put in 500 litres
so session 2, another full on 2 mins.
Oh I've plenty of fuel before the end. Now how did that happen?
In my efforts to be brief and to the point, I really should have put,,,,,,,,5-10 litres depending on length of session, pace, etc.....as you kindly remind me ...if you amble the fuel lasts longer.....
I've also corrected your maths...( above )
ok start of the day I put in 200 litres
do session 1, full on 2 mins, end up with 50 litres left
as you say, put in 500 litres
so session 2, another full on 2 mins.
Oh I've plenty of fuel before the end. Now how did that happen?
In my efforts to be brief and to the point, I really should have put,,,,,,,,5-10 litres depending on length of session, pace, etc.....as you kindly remind me ...if you amble the fuel lasts longer.....
I've also corrected your maths...( above )
splitpin said:
Radical's Exclusively Radical Track & Test Day @ Silv GP on 12 March 2015.
BTW do remember that Radicals don't like starting with much less than about 10 litres in the tank especially after they've stood for a few days or even a few hours. Nice fresh fuel every time, never more than about a month old .............
Talking about Silverstone,Anyone else there on Thursday.BTW do remember that Radicals don't like starting with much less than about 10 litres in the tank especially after they've stood for a few days or even a few hours. Nice fresh fuel every time, never more than about a month old .............
Which pump fuel is best these days. I know Shell is regarded as the one to have , but I was told recently that Tescos best stuff is now the highest octane you can get.
Gc285 said:
Talking about Silverstone,Anyone else there on Thursday.
Which pump fuel is best these days. I know Shell is regarded as the one to have , but I was told recently that Tescos best stuff is now the highest octane you can get.
Yep, we're going (Amanda has just issued the list), so see you there.Which pump fuel is best these days. I know Shell is regarded as the one to have , but I was told recently that Tescos best stuff is now the highest octane you can get.
Pump fuel-wise, I always use Shell V-Power mostly because a) historically, I didn't have a Tesco selling their previous RON 100 plus stuff anywhere near me - very few of their PFSs sold it - and b) rightly or wrongly it just felt better to buy fuel from the people that actually harvest and refine it rather than someone more focused on selling groceries etc.
If I understand correctly both are the same RON 99 nowadays, Tesco having lowered theirs, whereas Shell have increased theirs to that with their Nitro+ version and I think virtually every Tesco PFS now stocks their 'Momentum'? Who knows, maybe they are actually the same fuel? Particularly as it seems both unfortunately add about 5% ethanol to get that high-ish RON. TBH if the likes of Texaco and BP upped the RON of their Super Unleaded to 98 and stuck with not adding ethanol at all (as is presently the case in most but not all parts of the country), I'd use that in preference to anything with ethanol in it.
Meantime, until something goes amiss that could be down to fresh fuel quality, I'll shall stick with Shell ............ afterall they totally disgraced themselves a lot longer ago than Tesco
We probably shouldn't be having this conversation at all in public ............ recollecting that Sunoco are coming, we may well get an ear bending from Anders on Thursday.
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