Does anyone know this XJR Portfolio please?

[9mm]

supermono said:

9mm said:

If it's hard to tell from new and has 99,000 on the clock something doesn't add up. I have never seen a car with that mileage free from gravel rash and other wear and tear.

You seem to have convinced yourself that this car is for you so buy it and I wish you good luck.

It does seem odd for sure, but the low mileage 08 in Reading was covered in gravel rash and looked like it'd covered every one of its 80k miles twice. Perhaps this one has had a bonnet blown over I just don't know - maybe the clock has been wound forward lol.

Anyway drove the Portfolio today and it's a lovely drive and looks just sublime so it's likely I'll go ahead.

But genuinely though I'm really puzzled about the 4k overvaluation you identified -- if Glass's guide is listing 12k why is it valued at 8? I presume you're a dealer with some sort of insider knowledge? Can you maybe point me to an equivalent car for 8k?

SM

If it has done 99,000 miles in 6 years and is unmarked then it must have had paint, at least. It is impossible for a car to do that mileage and not collect marks.

Glass's guide means nothing to me but good luck to you if it gives you confidence to pay that much money for the car. The dealer won't have paid more than £8K for it so if you want one at that price you'll have to sniff one out at the same price for yourself. Just because a car is advertised at one price and there are no other cars available cheaper does not make it worth the asking price. A look through ebay on any day will throw up dozens of one offs with ambitious asking prices. Some sell, some don't.

As I said, if you like the car, buy it at 12K, which isn't exactly a lot of money. But be prepared for the supercharger fix (hopefully in warranty). What I would pay for the car is quite irrelevant.

[supermono]

Ah, so your 8k was trade price and your view is he should be selling it for 8k too with a warranty. I do appreciate your input but as with all things internet there's the whole spectrum of facts and opinion. Some of what you say has been useful at least thanks.

SM

[9mm]

supermono said:

Ah, so your 8k was trade price and your view is he should be selling it for 8k too with a warranty. I do appreciate your input but as with all things internet there's the whole spectrum of facts and opinion. Some of what you say has been useful at least thanks.

SM

No, I'm not saying he should be selling it for £8K with a warranty. I'm saying that's all I would pay for the car. Which is probably what he paid for for the car, although I suspect a lot less. I'd wait, find a cheaper car which has had the supercharger fix, with a lower mileage and condition commensurate with that. If your description is accurate, there is something missing in the comprehensive description that you say exists, namely, how it has retained nearly as new condition despite racking up 99,000 miles or what paintwork has been done, by whom and why. What I am saying is that you are paying absolutely top money for a car with a high mileage, at least one pending major bill and something fishy about its condition. All of which is fine, it's your money, and as I say, not exactly a life changing amount.

PS I wouldn't pay £8K for that car. Probably £6K at most - IF the bodywork history checked out. £8K if it had much lower mileage and the supercharger fix.

Edited by 9mm on Monday 21st October 14:30

[V400TC]

The price is to high, try offering the same car to a dealer as trade in
You'll soon see the vast gap in what you are being asked for and what it's value is as trade in,
WBAC will give you a guide.
I would wait and find a lower mileage example.
But it is your money and your choice.

[cardigankid]

You are the only person who can make the judgement, after being over the car with a fine toothcomb and had a drive in it. Does it feel right?

Why not say that you are aware of some works which will need done, and offer him £1500 less to compensate for that. If he has paid £8k that is still a profit, and if you buy a nice XJR Portfolio for £10.5, you have probably done well. As for why, the later model was just that little bit heavier in appearance, and the Portfolio side vents are unique.

[supermono]

9mm said:

PS I wouldn't pay £8K for that car.

Ok, here's a challenge. Buy me an xjr portfolio with no bodywork repairs other than a bit of
Stonechip blow over, mechanicaly sound and with 50k miles and a proper main dealer history for 8k and I'll give you 1000 cash in 50s as commission.

I want the car before end of November.

Please share your buying genius with me.

SM

[V400TC]

Good offer
But
Don't rush and get one you later regret.
the price seems to high you will need to keep looking till another shows up.
the dealer will have a profit in that deal and cover any warranty he offers.
the mileage is high
I would wait and keep looking.
I'd hate to see threads saying your car has started to show problems soon after purchase.
My S type had 19k on the clock when I got it,
well worth the wait even if it was a bit overpriced.

[supermono]

V400TC said:

Good offer
But
Don't rush and get one you later regret.
the price seems to high you will need to keep looking till another shows up.
the dealer will have a profit in that deal and cover any warranty he offers.
the mileage is high
I would wait and keep looking.
I'd hate to see threads saying your car has started to show problems soon after purchase.
My S type had 19k on the clock when I got it,
well worth the wait even if it was a bit overpriced.

Thanks for the measured advice it's appreciated. Things have progressed in an most unexpected way but I will be very surprised if by mid next week I do not have a mint portfolio on my driveway

I'll share the details as and when. Let me say there are some lovely people in the Jaguar scene.

SM

[V400TC]

Excellent news looking forward to your updates.

[THEROCKETMAN]

Good evening. Apologies for jumping into the topic! I have been considering a SC version. I was unaware of the 'SC hose' that has been mentioned. I had only considered the SC belt before now. Why is it such a costly job: parts/access/labour?? Do Jaguar replace in routine maintainence schedule, and how will it appear or be described on a service invoice? The more I read the more I steer away from superchargers and lean towards a nice 4.2!!

Thanks in advance for any advice.....

[9mm]

THEROCKETMAN said:

Good evening. Apologies for jumping into the topic! I have been considering a SC version. I was unaware of the 'SC hose' that has been mentioned. I had only considered the SC belt before now. Why is it such a costly job: parts/access/labour?? Do Jaguar replace in routine maintainence schedule, and how will it appear or be described on a service invoice? The more I read the more I steer away from superchargers and lean towards a nice 4.2!!

Thanks in advance for any advice.....

It isn't replaced as part of the maintenance schedule. The problem is a £10 hose fails, possibly due to a combination of design inadequacy, quality and location. The cost is down to the amount of labour involved in removing and replacing the hose. There'll be a big bill in the records if it has been done! If it fails there is no option but to fix it as you will lose all coolant and the car will b undriveable.

It isn't a reason to avoid superchargers. It's simply one of a few issues with the cars. Just about every (complex) car made has some expensive problem that is common to the manufacturer/model. You just need to make sure you are factoring the job into the price you pay.

A google search will bring up all the information you need.

[9mm]

supermono said:

V400TC said:

Good offer
But
Don't rush and get one you later regret.
the price seems to high you will need to keep looking till another shows up.
the dealer will have a profit in that deal and cover any warranty he offers.
the mileage is high
I would wait and keep looking.
I'd hate to see threads saying your car has started to show problems soon after purchase.
My S type had 19k on the clock when I got it,
well worth the wait even if it was a bit overpriced.

Thanks for the measured advice it's appreciated. Things have progressed in an most unexpected way but I will be very surprised if by mid next week I do not have a mint portfolio on my driveway

I'll share the details as and when. Let me say there are some lovely people in the Jaguar scene.

SM

Mint? It's a new one is it? Hopefully you've found another one that is more reasonably priced. You just have to wait sometimes, sometimes for ages and sometimes for not very long at all, but there's no need to pay an inflated price unless there are only a few cars in existence and they never come up for sale. The Portfolio is an interesting car but nothing to get carried away about.

[mph]

99k would be too much for me at that price.

Recently sold my own XJR for £13k with 13k miles and one owner prior to me.

It was a pre-facelift car 2006.

[supermono]

9mm said:

You just have to wait sometimes, sometimes for ages and sometimes for not very long at all, but there's no need to pay an inflated price unless there are only a few cars in existence and they never come up for sale. The Portfolio is an interesting car but nothing to get carried away about.

Thing is it's 10kish for a (kinda) supercar powered luxury car, a chunk of cash but really not going to put off retirement by much and incredible value. Life is too short sometimes and rather than wringing my hands for months and months waiting for the "right" car (which I have no doubt will come along eventually), I'd prefer to go for the best compromise in the short term -- a few weeks -- and start enjoying the thing during this lifetime.

I don't think you're wrong but I'm happy that Friday week I'll be enjoying my immaculate XJR portfolio horsing about the motorways with the Iron Maiden playing and a smile on my face instead of hitting "refresh" constantly on autotrader.co.uk, looking glum.

Live for today

SM

[NormanD]

supermono said:

Live for today

SM

Good thinking

[THEROCKETMAN]

NormanD said:

supermono said:

Live for today

SM

Good thinking

I concur! So easy to search for months. It is not the first time I have missed a few decent cars in a row waiting for 'the one'. Sometimes it is just down to timing. What a nice place to be; pondering over which XJR you fancy. Not all are so fortunate........

[THEROCKETMAN]

P.S. Thanks for the info to my question 9mm..

[P700DEE]

Those "pipes" are valley pipes and are in both NA and Supercharged Jags. Whilst those in the R versions are a little less accessable they can be changed without full supercharger removal. Had mine done on the drive by a main dealer mechanic moonlighting for £250 inc. Failure is rarely catastrophic and usually is first found by a water leak but no signs of water on the road. Hardly a reason for rejecting a power boost of 100BHP !!

[Piersman2]

For reference on prices I sold my 2007, 07 plate XJR back in April time privately for £11K. It had something like 60K miles on it.

At the time dealers were looking for 14K for theirs, and were offering £9.5K to me for mine, so the private sale price of £11K seemed reasonable.

I'm not sure what the Portfolios have that the standard XJRs don't have, my XJR had every conceivable extra, most of which I never used!

Oh and to add a note about these 'pipes. I had 3 XJRs, the middle once of which I sold at 126K miles, and have never heard of this particular 'weakness'. Main issues are high mileage gearboxes, suspension bushes and panel edge corrosion.

Edited by Piersman2 on Friday 25th October 21:20

[monaro55]

I think this car was in the ph classifieds a few months ago, it's there now same photos same dealer. I may be wrong but I do look at the classifieds quiet often at the cars I like. As I say I may be wrong but it does look familiar