Jaguar F-Type - Chris Harris test car
Discussion
Stuperbulous said:
The car mentioned is in my stock (i.e. I'm a Sales Exec there).
I can say the cars are prepared to a very high standard, otherwise they wouldn't end up on our forecourt.
Not all cars that start with an "O*" are press cars. the majority of them are management cars.
If I gave you the keys to drive this, and a used F-Type that's been owned by a private individual, you really wouldn't know which car is which.
The other thread slated this car, poor paintwork, warning lights all over the place, the guy walked away and bought another one, so this one doesn't seem to match your description.I can say the cars are prepared to a very high standard, otherwise they wouldn't end up on our forecourt.
Not all cars that start with an "O*" are press cars. the majority of them are management cars.
If I gave you the keys to drive this, and a used F-Type that's been owned by a private individual, you really wouldn't know which car is which.
6C4GTS said:
fatboy b said:
All depends who had in as a management car. They're loaned out to anyone who needs one on company business. Would you treat like you're own??
Looking at current XKRS for sale the majority have O* plates...does that mean you should avoid them all?I watched a mate's video from a Jag Track day and the supervisor in the passenger seat meant a lap time a golf could achieve so maybe a fast jag should be built for such things?
jagmanvaughn said:
Yes make sure you avoid any F type with an OV or OY reg plate as those are the ones that have been driven to the limit around various test tracks
Sorry - but that is rubbish. The registration characters you mention will almost cover all management fleet vehicles.Thread is funny - the cars are designed (nee engineered) to be driven hard. I'm not sure what any typical buyer would otherwise expect of a second hand car. If the car is thrashed/crashed and body repair is required that is obviously different.
A properly maintained (serviced) car ex-Jag fleet that has been tracked (and they are few and far between) would be the same as purchasing a second hand car that had seen trackdays from a private buyer, and probably wouldn't have had the attention detail given to replacement brakes, bushes etc.
If you are that worried - I'd go by the last three characters of the registration and read Autocar/EVO etc very diligently
Tarring all O* registrations with the "It's been thrashed" brush is to be ignorant of the facts.
Edited by FWDRacer on Friday 11th July 08:29
FWDRacer said:
Sorry - but that is rubbish. The registration characters you mention will almost cover all management fleet vehicles.
Thread is funny - the cars are designed (nee engineered) to be driven hard. I'm not sure what any typical buyer would otherwise expect of a second hand car. If the car is thrashed/crashed and body repair is required that is obviously different.
A properly maintained (serviced) car ex-Jag fleet that has been tracked (and they are few and far between) would be the same as purchasing a second hand car that had seen trackdays from a private buyer, and probably wouldn't have had the attention detail given to replacement brakes, bushes etc.
If you are that worried - I'd go by the last three characters of the registration and read Autocar/EVO etc very diligently
Tarring all O* registrations with the "It's been thrashed" brush is to be ignorant of the facts.
Good post. I guess many of the people posting on this thread would never dare buy a used Porsche GT3 or Ferrari CS / Scuderia? Many (but not all) will have seen heavy track use by private individuals. Modern day engines are designed to be used across the complete rev range, indeed the 5.0 Jaguar unit is capable of running at 800bhp but de-tuned to 500 / 550bhp for reliability. The ZF gearbox and electronics on board prevent the engine from being over-revved (which cannot be said for Porsche GT3 - hence all the issues on the private market about over revs.Thread is funny - the cars are designed (nee engineered) to be driven hard. I'm not sure what any typical buyer would otherwise expect of a second hand car. If the car is thrashed/crashed and body repair is required that is obviously different.
A properly maintained (serviced) car ex-Jag fleet that has been tracked (and they are few and far between) would be the same as purchasing a second hand car that had seen trackdays from a private buyer, and probably wouldn't have had the attention detail given to replacement brakes, bushes etc.
If you are that worried - I'd go by the last three characters of the registration and read Autocar/EVO etc very diligently
Tarring all O* registrations with the "It's been thrashed" brush is to be ignorant of the facts.
Edited by FWDRacer on Friday 11th July 08:29
Regarding values of press cars, the most famous (and probably valuable) Jaguar E-Type is 9600HP - a prototype and test / press car. As said, as long as the car hasn't had accident damage - should be no problem, and i think it'd be great to own the car that has adorned the front cover of EVO. Great provenance for this car in many years to come (as 9600HP)
FWDRacer said:
Sorry - but that is rubbish. The registration characters you mention will almost cover all management fleet vehicles.
Thread is funny - the cars are designed (nee engineered) to be driven hard. I'm not sure what any typical buyer would otherwise expect of a second hand car. If the car is thrashed/crashed and body repair is required that is obviously different.
A properly maintained (serviced) car ex-Jag fleet that has been tracked (and they are few and far between) would be the same as purchasing a second hand car that had seen trackdays from a private buyer, and probably wouldn't have had the attention detail given to replacement brakes, bushes etc.
If you are that worried - I'd go by the last three characters of the registration and read Autocar/EVO etc very diligently
Tarring all O* registrations with the "It's been thrashed" brush is to be ignorant of the facts.
Not tarring, just buyer beware, that any O* reg cars from Jag cannot be determined if the are management or track cars. Same can go for a private sale, but if the car looks tired, it probably is.....for me I won't touch an O* plated car which has 'Jaguar' as first owner.Thread is funny - the cars are designed (nee engineered) to be driven hard. I'm not sure what any typical buyer would otherwise expect of a second hand car. If the car is thrashed/crashed and body repair is required that is obviously different.
A properly maintained (serviced) car ex-Jag fleet that has been tracked (and they are few and far between) would be the same as purchasing a second hand car that had seen trackdays from a private buyer, and probably wouldn't have had the attention detail given to replacement brakes, bushes etc.
If you are that worried - I'd go by the last three characters of the registration and read Autocar/EVO etc very diligently
Tarring all O* registrations with the "It's been thrashed" brush is to be ignorant of the facts.
Edited by FWDRacer on Friday 11th July 08:29
The majority of used cars for sale are these cars. Seems that Jag register more cars new then are bought from dealers.
Triple7 said:
Seems that Jag register more cars new then are bought from dealers.
As do all the main manufacturers. BMW operate a points system where staff can have a brand new car at seriously reduced rates that goes back into the dealer network as a "used car" 6 months or a year later. Naturally the cars are used "enthusiastically" :-) I think that many need expectations managed TBH A used car is.....a USED car, whether owned by Jaguar, or by an unsympathetic owner who's ragged it senseless when cold etc If buying a second hand car (albeit with a warranty and a stone chip or two) stresses anyone that much - just buy a brand new car?
Edited by Candellara on Friday 11th July 13:48
Well lets state the following the Jaguar management cars come to auction first and are prepared at auction. The Jaguar Dealers then buy at auction, take the cars away and prepare them for sale. That's 2 preps more than a private customer trading into a dealership.
This happens for sister company Land Rover's fleet and they have off road adventure centres. Look at Dan's Mercedes AMG 63 Estate, reg starts K*, then look tonight at your local Mercedes Dealership all Milton Keynes Management cars, who also happen to have Mercedes World. BMW are now using a Yorkshire reg 'Y*' for fleet cars.
At the end of the day Dealerships need late model used cars on their forecourts (the brands management fleets provide), did anybody believe all these cars were bought new and traded back in within 6 months, I'd be worried that something was wrong with the make if all these cars were been traded in at such a young age.
This happens for sister company Land Rover's fleet and they have off road adventure centres. Look at Dan's Mercedes AMG 63 Estate, reg starts K*, then look tonight at your local Mercedes Dealership all Milton Keynes Management cars, who also happen to have Mercedes World. BMW are now using a Yorkshire reg 'Y*' for fleet cars.
At the end of the day Dealerships need late model used cars on their forecourts (the brands management fleets provide), did anybody believe all these cars were bought new and traded back in within 6 months, I'd be worried that something was wrong with the make if all these cars were been traded in at such a young age.
Avoiding O* Jags is pretty much saying "don't buy a nearly new Jag".
Vast majority of nearly new cars are ex company fleet, regardless of manufacturer. So you'd basically never buy a nearly new car if you wanted to avoid them.
It's not like loads of private buyers buy new and trade in before its first birthday.
Vast majority of nearly new cars are ex company fleet, regardless of manufacturer. So you'd basically never buy a nearly new car if you wanted to avoid them.
It's not like loads of private buyers buy new and trade in before its first birthday.
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