F Type owner experience
Discussion
tcant said:
jamieduff1981 said:
In short, no. A smile, sometimes. Adrenalin, nope.
I'm quite surprised by this comment. I have owned a Griff 500 and a Tuscan and my test drive in the F Type had me grinning from ear to ear. To me, it had all the theatre of the TVR but with the everyday usability, safety and practicality of a modern well built sports car. Where I used to lift off in the Tuscan for fear of finding a hedge, I found I could carry for more speed into corners in the F Type and it encouraged me to do so. The F type is an amazing car.As for track driving I'm blessed to live nowhere near any horrible huge population densities, but that also means my nearest track is 150 miles away so my cars need to achieve everything they're going to on the roads, so cars which need 3 figure speeds to come alive or things which have no bodies are useless to me.
esso said:
chrisb0 said:
I can’t quite get my head around the comparisons to TVR’s, I know from racing experience that TVR chaps love the marque and won’t have a bad word said about them, and that’s fair enough.
But to compare something with the build quality and modern engineering in the F type to a TVR is not something I would consider a fair comparison.
I have never owned a TVR so I can’t comment on the driving experience, but I would imagine it’s quite direct and involved and not that great over long distances.
Not quite sure what kind of adrenalin rush some people are after, but 550 bhp in a light (ish) car is enough for the road. If you want real kicks then a track car is the only way to go.
I would have thought a comparison to a V8 vantage or 911 would be better.
I have owned & driven a TVR Cerbera for 10 years now and it still puts a smile on my face & gives me an adrenalin rush every time I drive it......just wanted to know if the F Type has the same effect........as i`m considering buying one.But to compare something with the build quality and modern engineering in the F type to a TVR is not something I would consider a fair comparison.
I have never owned a TVR so I can’t comment on the driving experience, but I would imagine it’s quite direct and involved and not that great over long distances.
Not quite sure what kind of adrenalin rush some people are after, but 550 bhp in a light (ish) car is enough for the road. If you want real kicks then a track car is the only way to go.
I would have thought a comparison to a V8 vantage or 911 would be better.
Edited by esso on Friday 15th August 20:02
You should go ahead with that test drive esso. There is almost certainly room in your life for an F-Type and you'll find a use for it. There is minimal overlap between a TVR and an F-Type. Whichever journo (I think it may have been PH actually) made that statement that the V8S was TVRlike didn't understand TVR.
As before, I'd still like to buy an F-Type. It would be my current daily driver that would be sold on though, as that's what the F-Type has been good for this past week:
A great way to get to work and back every day, but probably not the keys you pick up for a 40 mile run to buy a loaf of bread on Sunday morning if there's a Cerb parked outside.
chrisb0 said:
I can’t quite get my head around the comparisons to TVR’s, I know from racing experience that TVR chaps love the marque and won’t have a bad word said about them, and that’s fair enough.
But to compare something with the build quality and modern engineering in the F type to a TVR is not something I would consider a fair comparison.
I have never owned a TVR so I can’t comment on the driving experience, but I would imagine it’s quite direct and involved and not that great over long distances.
Not quite sure what kind of adrenalin rush some people are after, but 550 bhp in a light (ish) car is enough for the road. If you want real kicks then a track car is the only way to go.
I would have thought a comparison to a V8 vantage or 911 would be better.
I've owned 4 TVR's including Tuscan, Tuscan 2 and Sagaris and I have an F-Type V8S. The F-Type is the first car I've driven that comes close to giving the visceral thrill of the Sagaris. I drove my Sag all around the UK and to Le Mans and the Tuscan all over the Loire valley and Normandy one year so I'd disagree about it not being good over a long distance. The Jag is in a different league in terms of equipment and build quality but it's also a lot more money so that's to be expected. I paid 40k for each of the Tuscans and 50k for the Sag and for that they were a bargain. For me the F-Type delivers the thrills and experience of the TVR's in a better all round package for today - remember the last TVR left the factory almost a decade ago. But to compare something with the build quality and modern engineering in the F type to a TVR is not something I would consider a fair comparison.
I have never owned a TVR so I can’t comment on the driving experience, but I would imagine it’s quite direct and involved and not that great over long distances.
Not quite sure what kind of adrenalin rush some people are after, but 550 bhp in a light (ish) car is enough for the road. If you want real kicks then a track car is the only way to go.
I would have thought a comparison to a V8 vantage or 911 would be better.
I spent Friday on the track at the Atlanta Speedway with F-Type, 911 Carrera S and the new Stingray. Neither of the others holds a candle to the F. V8 Vantage? really?
If I could have bought my Sag to the USA I would have done so but I'm not convinced that I would have kept it once I got the F.
unrepentant said:
chrisb0 said:
I can’t quite get my head around the comparisons to TVR’s, I know from racing experience that TVR chaps love the marque and won’t have a bad word said about them, and that’s fair enough.
But to compare something with the build quality and modern engineering in the F type to a TVR is not something I would consider a fair comparison.
I have never owned a TVR so I can’t comment on the driving experience, but I would imagine it’s quite direct and involved and not that great over long distances.
Not quite sure what kind of adrenalin rush some people are after, but 550 bhp in a light (ish) car is enough for the road. If you want real kicks then a track car is the only way to go.
I would have thought a comparison to a V8 vantage or 911 would be better.
I've owned 4 TVR's including Tuscan, Tuscan 2 and Sagaris and I have an F-Type V8S. The F-Type is the first car I've driven that comes close to giving the visceral thrill of the Sagaris. I drove my Sag all around the UK and to Le Mans and the Tuscan all over the Loire valley and Normandy one year so I'd disagree about it not being good over a long distance. The Jag is in a different league in terms of equipment and build quality but it's also a lot more money so that's to be expected. I paid 40k for each of the Tuscans and 50k for the Sag and for that they were a bargain. For me the F-Type delivers the thrills and experience of the TVR's in a better all round package for today - remember the last TVR left the factory almost a decade ago. But to compare something with the build quality and modern engineering in the F type to a TVR is not something I would consider a fair comparison.
I have never owned a TVR so I can’t comment on the driving experience, but I would imagine it’s quite direct and involved and not that great over long distances.
Not quite sure what kind of adrenalin rush some people are after, but 550 bhp in a light (ish) car is enough for the road. If you want real kicks then a track car is the only way to go.
I would have thought a comparison to a V8 vantage or 911 would be better.
I spent Friday on the track at the Atlanta Speedway with F-Type, 911 Carrera S and the new Stingray. Neither of the others holds a candle to the F. V8 Vantage? really?
If I could have bought my Sag to the USA I would have done so but I'm not convinced that I would have kept it once I got the F.
I've had two 4.5 Cerbera's both remapped (circa 400 BHP) and sorted by Joolz. The first was a '98 I had for 5 years and the second was a '52 plate (one of the later few) which I kept for about 12 months. In between and after the Cerb's I owned a 911(996) turbo and a new 12 plate GTR for two years before swapping it for a V8S in May this year. The Cerb's were raw, fast and without driver aids. I drove them hard and managed to avoid the hedges. But their lack of sophistication and every increasing maintenance requirements combined with my lack of time to solve these requirements made me choose something newer. The GTR was quick, very so, but lacked the comfort of the Cerbera and all it did was quick. I thought I would regret swapping it for the V8S (my first cab) but I haven't looked back. The sound of the V8S is the closest I have found to my decatted Cerb's and it's legal! It's just as comfortable but choose sport/dynamic mode at the same time and it would compete with a fettled Cerb on the road. It's in a different price bracket but for that you get reliability and ease of use. If you can afford it, take a test drive and report back 
In an ideal world I'd still have a Cerb In the garage but I don't think it would get much use.
In an ideal world I'd still have a Cerb In the garage but I don't think it would get much use. jamieduff1981 said:
For clarity the F-Type is a good car and it's quick and great handling. All positives. It just doesn't have the rawness that Esso and myself will have grown to think is normal.
You should go ahead with that test drive esso. There is almost certainly room in your life for an F-Type and you'll find a use for it. There is minimal overlap between a TVR and an F-Type. Whichever journo (I think it may have been PH actually) made that statement that the V8S was TVRlike didn't understand TVR.
As before, I'd still like to buy an F-Type. It would be my current daily driver that would be sold on though, as that's what the F-Type has been good for this past week:
A great way to get to work and back every day, but probably not the keys you pick up for a 40 mile run to buy a loaf of bread on Sunday morning if there's a Cerb parked outside.
There's raw, and then there's rough. In Estate Agent-speak, it's the difference between rustic, and ramshackle.You should go ahead with that test drive esso. There is almost certainly room in your life for an F-Type and you'll find a use for it. There is minimal overlap between a TVR and an F-Type. Whichever journo (I think it may have been PH actually) made that statement that the V8S was TVRlike didn't understand TVR.
As before, I'd still like to buy an F-Type. It would be my current daily driver that would be sold on though, as that's what the F-Type has been good for this past week:
A great way to get to work and back every day, but probably not the keys you pick up for a 40 mile run to buy a loaf of bread on Sunday morning if there's a Cerb parked outside.
But, back to motoring: They're both British Marques, and both appear to regard fit and finish as a happy coincidence. But at least in a Jag there is some hope of having a car you can use every day...
Just to be clear: if you're reading this and post under one of the several @Jaguar online identities, I'm being looked after, but I shouldn't need to be looked after. I've been on the tour, and the staff are trying to do a good job. But it may be that what you're giving staff in Body in White to assemble is not made to sufficiently tight tolerances.
Happy to discuss offline.
Happy to discuss offline.
ftypical said:
Just to be clear: if you're reading this and post under one of the several @Jaguar online identities, I'm being looked after, but I shouldn't need to be looked after. I've been on the tour, and the staff are trying to do a good job. But it may be that what you're giving staff in Body in White to assemble is not made to sufficiently tight tolerances.
Happy to discuss offline.
In English please Happy to discuss offline.
My wife and kids hired me a V6 S convertible for a day as a birthday present, I loved it, did around 400 miles on the day around Scotland on some great roads. The best bit for me was the noise, it just sounded fantastic. Like some have said, I have never had so many comments from strangers regarding how it looked since I had a Fiat Coupe years ago. The only thing I didn’t like about it was the build quality seemed poor, had a lot of rattles from the dash at only 3 months old, but it had done 5k miles in that short time. I suspect as it was a hire car, every single one of them was probably flat out. However when I got back into my own 12 year old car I did miss the engine sound, but not the rattling from the dash. However if I was lucky enough to ever have around £70k burning a hole then I would have the Coupe version in a minute.
Edited by briang9 on Friday 26th September 23:16
chrisb0 said:
In English please
As - as far as I'm aware - you don't work for JLR and post under one of their @jaguar accounts, it probably shouldn't come as a surpise given the first line that you're suffering cognitive difficulties. Relax and think happy thoughts. In the meantime, I like my F Type coupe - a lot. But there are a number of area which really shouldn't be as they are 18 months after production started.
For the hard of thinking, these areas for concern appear on both the convertible and the coupe, hence the 18 months cited.
ftypical said:
As - as far as I'm aware - you don't work for JLR and post under one of their @jaguar accounts, it probably shouldn't come as a surpise given the first line that you're suffering cognitive difficulties. Relax and think happy thoughts.
In the meantime, I like my F Type coupe - a lot. But there are a number of area which really shouldn't be as they are 18 months after production started.
For the hard of thinking, these areas for concern appear on both the convertible and the coupe, hence the 18 months cited.
Oh i see... I think In the meantime, I like my F Type coupe - a lot. But there are a number of area which really shouldn't be as they are 18 months after production started.
For the hard of thinking, these areas for concern appear on both the convertible and the coupe, hence the 18 months cited.
I also like my F Type a lot and yes there are panel gaps that should be better.
I have it on good authority that there are some issues with the tooling, and as its a relatively short run vehicle i guess it is not cost effective to fix/replace the problem items.
But l already knew about this when I bought the car and i can happily live with it, i suppose in much the same way iPhone users put up with "issues"
Following on from some discussion about the safety of the F Type spoiling the fun of driving as opposed to the pure experience of a TVR.
I was driving home this morning and my dashboard camera fitted in my F Type captured why its not always best to experience this.
Nobody was hurt.
TVR Crash: http://youtu.be/HJLns2lZTXU
I was driving home this morning and my dashboard camera fitted in my F Type captured why its not always best to experience this.
Nobody was hurt.
TVR Crash: http://youtu.be/HJLns2lZTXU
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