Disappointment - "Heritage" Driving Days

Disappointment - "Heritage" Driving Days

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dptdpt

Original Poster:

100 posts

164 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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There has been a lot of publicity about Jaguar allowing paying members of the public to drive their historic cars, and after a soul searching day thinking about the cost - £2000 - I decided I would book the "Grace and Pace" day which gave me 15/20 minutes on their test track in a C type and D type. It seemed worth the money to be able to drive these two, and the other cars would come as a bonus - XK150, E type, Mk2, and a couple of moderns.
Phoned up to book, only to find the C & D types were replicas!

Triple7

4,013 posts

237 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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Shame, I guess the real question is,,how much would you spend to drive the real thing. Is £2k cheap? I don't know. Jag now charge £300 for a track day, when it used to be free. I understand the economics, but I guess it comes down to how much you think it is worth. £2k would get you 20 mins in a Spitfire!

dptdpt

Original Poster:

100 posts

164 months

Thursday 23rd October 2014
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I hadn't thought of it like that. £2k seemed a lot, although I've no idea how the relationship between value and the price of driving them for twenty minutes should be calculated. It just seemed like a once in a lifetime opportunity to drive a couple of cars that have been etched into my soul since childhood in the 1950's. A replica might be indistinguishable in feel, appearence and performance, but just would not have been the same.

Roy C

4,187 posts

284 months

Thursday 23rd October 2014
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With the value of genuine C & D Types, I'm not surprised they won't allow the public to drive their original cars.
Some of the good replicas are heading north of £100k.

jamieduff1981

8,025 posts

140 months

Thursday 23rd October 2014
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They're also completely irreplaceable. If you bin their F-Type it's not great deal. A risk calculation will have insured the car one way or another and another will be brought in to replace it. If you bin their real C-Type, that's it.

charlie7777

112 posts

114 months

Thursday 23rd October 2014
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Not strictly true. Every machine is repairable. Most 'original' cars have already been binned a few times.
Its the organic matter in the middle that is irreplaceable and probably worries Jaguar more.

jamieduff1981

8,025 posts

140 months

Friday 24th October 2014
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I don't see how the first part is relevant. It's not good for the heritage aspect nor as a business model to have to undertake a several-year restoration every time a customer stacks an original.

As for the second point, I fail to see how a customer injuring themselves in a replica is better for compensation claims liability than a customer injuring themselves in the original.

I don't think you really thought that through did you? laugh

charlie7777

112 posts

114 months

Friday 24th October 2014
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Hey I agree that it is a good idea to use replicas, they are far more numerous and no doubt far cheaper to insure. My only point is about the use of the word 'irreplaceable' Cars can clearly be replaced, most historic racing cars have been replaced many times over.
On the second point, (which probably has nothing to do with this thread) I never suggested injury/death in a replica is any better that in an original ---but it does highlight the use of the word irreplaceable.
I don't think that we disagree on much here, I apologise for being a pedant. beer





Triple7

4,013 posts

237 months

Friday 24th October 2014
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dptdpt said:
I hadn't thought of it like that. £2k seemed a lot, although I've no idea how the relationship between value and the price of driving them for twenty minutes should be calculated. It just seemed like a once in a lifetime opportunity to drive a couple of cars that have been etched into my soul since childhood in the 1950's. A replica might be indistinguishable in feel, appearence and performance, but just would not have been the same.
It also depends on what the literature stated you were doing versus what you expected you were doing. Don't get me wrong, I too think £2k is expensive for a replica. I'll stick to a Spitfire wink