Pre-Owned F Types
Discussion
ftypical said:
It's probably worth mentioning that Jaguar's Options list on the F-Type is both:
1. Not cheap, and;
2. Not worth it in most cases.
If you don't actually like it a lot more than the standard spec (or, it's really useful), don't pay extra for it.
A recent test in Evo suggests that the only upside to CCBs - aside from willy-waving - is never having to replace the pads/discs. But, if you're only keeping it for 3 years, why would you care?
Things worth having:
- The adjustable suspension;
- Parking pack (front sensors and rear camera)
- Heated windscreen (but, only if you leave it outside);
- ummm...
Gyrodynes look nice, alloy paddle shifters look and feel nice, as does the flat bottomed wheel.
If you need a willy warmer, consult your doctor - it will be cheaper.
HTH.
I bought a V6S Coupe and in my opinion the Coupe looks s1. Not cheap, and;
2. Not worth it in most cases.
If you don't actually like it a lot more than the standard spec (or, it's really useful), don't pay extra for it.
A recent test in Evo suggests that the only upside to CCBs - aside from willy-waving - is never having to replace the pads/discs. But, if you're only keeping it for 3 years, why would you care?
Things worth having:
- The adjustable suspension;
- Parking pack (front sensors and rear camera)
- Heated windscreen (but, only if you leave it outside);
- ummm...
Gyrodynes look nice, alloy paddle shifters look and feel nice, as does the flat bottomed wheel.
If you need a willy warmer, consult your doctor - it will be cheaper.
HTH.
te without the pan roof, they also look better on 20" wheels and I also like the performance seats...just my preference of course.JetskiJezz said:
That price does sound cheap, can you confirm you actually saw it go through the block and sell? cheapest auto Trader right now is a 28,000 mile car at £47k, it's on with an independent specialist. I were talking about auction price versus retail.
Having said that, 35,000 miles seems pretty high for a 2-year-old F-type
No I didnt watch it sell. I was quoting the CAP/ Glass. There's another one on at the moment. A november 2013 red convertible B8 with 7400 miles quoted retail is 54500 on both books. Trade 46/48. Condition 2Having said that, 35,000 miles seems pretty high for a 2-year-old F-type
ftypical said:
Not light - as you say - but it took a surprisingly large number of back to back 100mph emergency stops before the iron brakes started to fall away compared to the CCBs.
You might have needed new pads if you had iron brakes and were enjoying yourself in the triangle.
Ftypical, what's your experience with the f type. Don't take this the wrong way but I checked your profile and see you don't own one so jut wondered if it was limited to a track day, or test drive or what not?You might have needed new pads if you had iron brakes and were enjoying yourself in the triangle.
I own one. Hence the username. I also own a fit but battered (car parks...) E46 330ci, and a decrepid MG.
The EVO test was an eye-opener, as it appears that seriously Gung-Ho track days aside, never having to change disks and pads are one of two* plus points.
On the Options front, all makes try to sell extras. But while for some makes its about personalising your car (I ordered an R53 Mini over a decade ago - it would have been physically impossible to spec it with every Option), others are about making your car nicer to use in some way (Audi, BMW, Volkswagen, Toyota...) In the latter case, it is possible to order your car "fully loaded", but unless being able to say this is important to you, remember that even the most basic Jag is pretty well equipped. So, only another Jag owner is possibly going to be able to tell that your car is anything other than the base model.
Hence, only pick extras that you like. Everything else is just a 'feature', rather than a benefit. And neither will actually boost the used sale price - only how quickly it will sell.
The EVO test was an eye-opener, as it appears that seriously Gung-Ho track days aside, never having to change disks and pads are one of two* plus points.
On the Options front, all makes try to sell extras. But while for some makes its about personalising your car (I ordered an R53 Mini over a decade ago - it would have been physically impossible to spec it with every Option), others are about making your car nicer to use in some way (Audi, BMW, Volkswagen, Toyota...) In the latter case, it is possible to order your car "fully loaded", but unless being able to say this is important to you, remember that even the most basic Jag is pretty well equipped. So, only another Jag owner is possibly going to be able to tell that your car is anything other than the base model.
Hence, only pick extras that you like. Everything else is just a 'feature', rather than a benefit. And neither will actually boost the used sale price - only how quickly it will sell.
- Bragging Rights are the other one.
Maybe so, but if one likes adding extras it doesn't make one a "willy waver".
I have 20" black tornados, switchable active exhaust', sports seats, flat bottom steering wheel, wind deflector, mats, sports pedals and footrest and a whole range of other items on my 'S' model. I would never have dreamt of mentioning those in an internet conversation before until you mentioned the word 'bragging' after 'willy waving' so now feel compelled to tell all about how much I think above listed enhance my driving experience over the standard car and how I think that the options are worth it if you can afford them - especially an 'S' variant.
I have 20" black tornados, switchable active exhaust', sports seats, flat bottom steering wheel, wind deflector, mats, sports pedals and footrest and a whole range of other items on my 'S' model. I would never have dreamt of mentioning those in an internet conversation before until you mentioned the word 'bragging' after 'willy waving' so now feel compelled to tell all about how much I think above listed enhance my driving experience over the standard car and how I think that the options are worth it if you can afford them - especially an 'S' variant.
CCB's on an 1650KG car WILL show their worth outside of a track day if driven hard on a twisty road ... think Route Napoleon, Black Forest, Swiss Alps, EVO Triangle, North Coast 500 etc etc.
For a daily driver, yes not necessary ... but for me its a weekend hoonmobile, and plan to do all of the above ... and there is a price to pay for upmost peace of mind that your brakes will always be there when you over cook 550PS into a hairpin at the side of a mountain.
oh, and you get NO brake dust
oh, and you get the lightweight Forged wheels also.
BUT - would I pay £8.5k option ? NO way ... but would I pay a £2k premium on a 7k miles used car? Absolutely, and thats what I did
btw, I had 7 R8's previously, of which 2 had Ceramics, and tbh the Steel set ups were just as good
For a daily driver, yes not necessary ... but for me its a weekend hoonmobile, and plan to do all of the above ... and there is a price to pay for upmost peace of mind that your brakes will always be there when you over cook 550PS into a hairpin at the side of a mountain.
oh, and you get NO brake dust
oh, and you get the lightweight Forged wheels also.
BUT - would I pay £8.5k option ? NO way ... but would I pay a £2k premium on a 7k miles used car? Absolutely, and thats what I did
btw, I had 7 R8's previously, of which 2 had Ceramics, and tbh the Steel set ups were just as good
I was looking at a few pre-owned F Types on a dealer forecourt yesterday. I looked at an example which had covered only 7500 miles, yet it was showing significant stone chipping just forward of the rear wheelarches. I noticed that there was a small paint protection patch low down but for a good 3" above this the bodywork was showing what I would consider to be excessive stone damage for the mileage. In my opinion the paint protection film could do with being extended further up the bodywork. Has anyone else noticed or experienced this issue?
yes re the stone chipping ... 100% agree with this
I have just completed a 1,300 return trip to the Highlands and upon washing my car have noticed this
I will be applying further PPF (I have the full front kit)
but if cars are 'driven' one country lanes with loose gravel etc the big wheels proud of the body will kick up stones here
cars driven primarily on motorways, around town, or not driven hard, will suffer less
I have just completed a 1,300 return trip to the Highlands and upon washing my car have noticed this
I will be applying further PPF (I have the full front kit)
but if cars are 'driven' one country lanes with loose gravel etc the big wheels proud of the body will kick up stones here
cars driven primarily on motorways, around town, or not driven hard, will suffer less
Having had this problem with vehicles in the past it is always something I look for. On the last occasion it was the subject of a warranty claim which included application of PPF.
I am surprised that Jaguar has not picked up on this during development and increased the size of the rather meagre PPF forward of the wheelarch.
Are stoneguards available for the front?
I am surprised that Jaguar has not picked up on this during development and increased the size of the rather meagre PPF forward of the wheelarch.
Are stoneguards available for the front?
ftypical said:
Have a look on Jaguar-specific forums for details of what goes wrong. The majority of the whinging appears to be directed at the upgraded stereo systems, which is hilarious given how loud the car is.
Thanks for the advice, it looks like a bit more searching online is needed.Out of interest, is there a way to tell which stereo system the car has by looking at the interior? It's just that I driven two now and both sounded fine as far as the sound system was concerned, I have pictures of both cars, so just wondered if there was any way I could tell the sound system that was in both of those cars?
Are people generally saying the basic system is no good, or are they saying they wouldn't bother paying for the advanced system?
Not that the stereo is important for me, it's the sound of the car that I'm paying for, not what comes out of the speakers.
Edited by JetskiJezz on Monday 15th February 22:21
The basic system is 100w in a very small space. It is capable of making the driver, as well as the interior trim vibrate. The upgrades would doubtless sound wonderful in a quiet, well damped space. But that is what the interior of an f-type is not.
Don't pay extra, and be sure to wind up the volume on bass-heavy* tracks to listen for vibrating trim. There are fixes for the trim, but it seems Jaguar will only pay for it to be done if the (potential) owner demonstrates the problem to the dealership in a way that cannot be argued with. It they argue - walk...
The only visual clues are to be found in the screen of the infotainment system. Otherwise, you need to be putting your hands over various speaker vents to feel if there's a speaker fitted.
HTH
Don't pay extra, and be sure to wind up the volume on bass-heavy* tracks to listen for vibrating trim. There are fixes for the trim, but it seems Jaguar will only pay for it to be done if the (potential) owner demonstrates the problem to the dealership in a way that cannot be argued with. It they argue - walk...
The only visual clues are to be found in the screen of the infotainment system. Otherwise, you need to be putting your hands over various speaker vents to feel if there's a speaker fitted.
HTH
- Elgar's Cello Concerto will do it, as will Song 2.
Edited by ftypical on Monday 15th February 19:32
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