would you touch a good repaired cat c

would you touch a good repaired cat c

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Original Poster:

168 posts

112 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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have been offered a cat c car she is an 04 xk8 coupe 105k lovely condition and has full dealer history close on immaculate order good colour combo would £5500 be too much to pay ? have had earlier xk and would love a newer one, next to the xf we are looking at > thanks all

Triple7

4,013 posts

237 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Seems expensive, but Cat C is a bit vague...

wellzee

445 posts

121 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Not without a full independent inspection and even then I personally wouldn't touch Cat C. That said, certain Cat C cars are repairable they have just been written off by the insurer as the repair cost wasn't worth it. You'd also be selling to a much smaller market when you came to sell it on as most people would be put off by the Cat C listing. I don't know enough about XK prices to tell you whether its a great deal, but I think a great deal would be what you'd need to get to even consider it.

a8hex

5,829 posts

223 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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My X300 is a Cat C. A number of years back I hit a patch of diesel on a roundabout in a storm and lost the back end. I ended up clipping the armco with the tail. New bumper and straightened out rear wing required and some paint. Insurance companies want quotes for everything new, so it ain't difficult to end up with a repair quote for a lot more than an X300 is worth to an insurance assessor, particularly one that didn't know the difference in value between an X300 and XJ40. No damage was anywhere near anything safety related.

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Original Poster:

168 posts

112 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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I have looked at the undamaged cars that are out there and they are around 2-3k more minimum, and some not as tidy! if we get it, will be looking for a good few years with her end of day 5.5k isnt the end of the world I suppose. And I have not seen a cheaper 04 under that price, just need some one here to say just do it thanks all..

NormanD

3,208 posts

228 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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If it's for keeps and ggod and tidy then what's the problem, go for it.

Could use that as some leaverage to get it for under 5k

Tame Technician

2,467 posts

204 months

Wednesday 28th January 2015
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The trouble with Cat D and Cat C cars.............

My mums cars was writen off and labled cat C when it only needed a door. I put a door, same colour, from a scrappy on it in 10 mins (cost £30) To look at the car you would never know. But the insurance cost of sourcing a brand new one and painting it + labour for swaping all the electrics etc was well over 75% of the cars value so writen off.

I have had a Cat D car in at work recently that had been repaired badly, all the body and paint was excelent but all the work done under the car and out of site was terrable. Lights were not fitted correctly brackets broken off for intercooler and radiator, wiring routed wrong and chaifing on the body. The car needed arround another £2k spending on it to fix everything.

You have to give the car a proper inspection, knowing what it looked like with the damage that made it a cat C in the first place would help.


I personally would by a Cat C or D car, but only with this information and or full inspection to prove the "good repair" they all claim to be.


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Original Poster:

168 posts

112 months

Wednesday 28th January 2015
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Tame Technician said:
The trouble with Cat D and Cat C cars.............

My mums cars was writen off and labled cat C when it only needed a door. I put a door, same colour, from a scrappy on it in 10 mins (cost £30) To look at the car you would never know. But the insurance cost of sourcing a brand new one and painting it + labour for swaping all the electrics etc was well over 75% of the cars value so writen off.

I have had a Cat D car in at work recently that had been repaired badly, all the body and paint was excelent but all the work done under the car and out of site was terrable. Lights were not fitted correctly brackets broken off for intercooler and radiator, wiring routed wrong and chaifing on the body. The car needed arround another £2k spending on it to fix everything.

You have to give the car a proper inspection, knowing what it looked like with the damage that made it a cat C in the first place would help.


I personally would by a Cat C or D car, but only with this information and or full inspection to prove the "good repair" they all claim to be.

i have missed out on the car went to view and it was close on immac there was no body damage but the rear suspension was damaged on one side. (pics) and the rear subframe etc was replaced although not needed to be. the rear suspension was rebuilt in total, it is a cat c but there is no record on the vosa site ? damage was just over a year back I believe
when I made offer it was sold !!!

tortop45

434 posts

160 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Its not a low milage car so why bother,Resale will put people off ,if your not car savey pass on it theres plenty out there...

chasdad

276 posts

144 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Vosa may not have it on theit record on the plate it's on because it may have had a different plate on it when written off

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Original Poster:

168 posts

112 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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tortop45 said:
Its not a low milage car so why bother,Resale will put people off ,if your not car savey pass on it theres plenty out there...
cheapest late 2004 out there and a good colour combo as I missed out on it there must be interest in these cat write off cars, seen some nasty colours in my view up at around the 8k... seems it will suit some but not others, been looking into the at c and d write offs, a new car with say a damaged wing could be a cat d but an older one with identical damage could be a cat c purely as repair costs would be same but the repair to current car value % will be different, so not so much the damage but the % to value to repair to me a bargain to be had !!

tortop45

434 posts

160 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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its hot said:
tortop45 said:
Its not a low milage car so why bother,Resale will put people off ,if your not car savey pass on it theres plenty out there...
cheapest late 2004 out there and a good colour combo as I missed out on it there must be interest in these cat write off cars, seen some nasty colours in my view up at around the 8k... seems it will suit some but not others, been looking into the at c and d write offs, a new car with say a damaged wing could be a cat d but an older one with identical damage could be a cat c purely as repair costs would be same but the repair to current car value % will be different, so not so much the damage but the % to value to repair to me a bargain to be had !!
Good hunting and i hope you find what your looking for,but remember pound wise 10p folish.......

jith

2,752 posts

215 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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Tame Technician said:
The trouble with Cat D and Cat C cars.............

My mums cars was writen off and labled cat C when it only needed a door. I put a door, same colour, from a scrappy on it in 10 mins (cost £30) To look at the car you would never know. But the insurance cost of sourcing a brand new one and painting it + labour for swaping all the electrics etc was well over 75% of the cars value so writen off.

I have had a Cat D car in at work recently that had been repaired badly, all the body and paint was excelent but all the work done under the car and out of site was terrable. Lights were not fitted correctly brackets broken off for intercooler and radiator, wiring routed wrong and chaifing on the body. The car needed arround another £2k spending on it to fix everything.

You have to give the car a proper inspection, knowing what it looked like with the damage that made it a cat C in the first place would help.


I personally would by a Cat C or D car, but only with this information and or full inspection to prove the "good repair" they all claim to be.

On the button as usual TT. A few years ago a muppet ran into the back of my car whilst at the lights. I had a stunning Audi 90 20 valve Quattro Sport, a rare car indeed, even in its day. It was one owner, full history and mint.

The assessor, in his infinite ignorance, attempted to write the car off and offered me 350 quid!! I reminded him that as it was a 3rd party claim, he had to place me in the position I was in before the accident. As I have never been into screwing the insurance companies, I told him I didn't want his money, just a replacement of exactly the same vehicle and condition.

It took him 24 hours to realise there weren't any available at the time and he gave me the car back with a cheque for £1500! I asked him why he thought the car was a write off, and he claimed it was due to the price of the rear bumper and boot mounted lamp unit. There was utterly no structural damage to the vehicle whatever.

I paid £150 to one of the lads in the Audi club for a mint bumper, rear lamps and boot trim. It took me 3 hours and £120 to the painter and the car was perfect.

Four months later, when I tried to tax it, I discovered he had reported the car to the DVLA as a Cat C without telling me: a really nice man indeed whose next ste hopefully will be a hedgehog.

I had to organise what is in reality the biggest rip off in the motor trade, a VIC check. You have to take your car for an inspection to confirm that it has not been ringed or is not a stolen vehicle and pay for the privilege of having someone look at the chassis number. Why on earth anyone would want to steal their own vehicle is beyond me, but there it is.

So in reality there are plenty of Cat C vehicles that have in reality only been cosmetically damaged and can be a seriously good bargain.

J

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Original Poster:

168 posts

112 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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agree a bargain to be had smile

nevm3

82 posts

213 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2015
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Bought Z4MC which is catC & D!! Got it cheap, no sign of any serious damage etc. Had it not been registered would have been none the wiser and paid top money for it! How many people have bought cars that were unregistered and then found evidence of serious damage? If the car looks right, drives right, you know to check it out for signs of damage you wouldn't do otherwise and find nothing untoward buy it and enjoy it, older it gets less important marker becomes? How many old classic cars that were falling in half and been rebuilt are about and would you check these out the same as a cat C or D? Buy it ENJOYdrivingit