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SV8 currently running 20/21 mpg.
Definately get the back boxes/exhaust changed, sounds amazing with them. (www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXBT4CU4RQ0 is mine)
Biggest shortfall on the SV8 compared to the R, is the brakes (Sliders on the SV, very prone to wobble/heat spots). XFR was designed more for track/fast road punishment, whereas the SV was designed as a quick lux saloon.
Definately get the back boxes/exhaust changed, sounds amazing with them. (www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXBT4CU4RQ0 is mine)
Biggest shortfall on the SV8 compared to the R, is the brakes (Sliders on the SV, very prone to wobble/heat spots). XFR was designed more for track/fast road punishment, whereas the SV was designed as a quick lux saloon.
Thanks again to everyone for the replies. Again, some interesting points.
Hatfields Jaguar Hull have an SV8 listed for £12k with 109k on the clock. Bit high mileage but if it's got some sort of main dealer backing might be worth closer inspection. No pictures online though. Mileage doesn't put me off, in fact there is a direct correlation in my car history between less miles = more problems or more miles = less problems! Condition however is everything. Most SV8s seem to be for sale by Joe Bloggs Trade Cars which wouldn't fill me with confidence.
Funnily enough, evo posted a buying guide on XFRs this week. Interesting read, and some of the parts costs weren't as scary as I had expected. Ultimately I think the R is the route I would like to go down, it is the better car. For the SV8 to work for me it would have to be less costly enough to make the sacrifice worthwhile.
All said and done, I'm in no rush to change and am happy waiting for the right car to come along. Ideally an R that isn't shagged for £20k from a dealer that isn't called 'something Trade Cars' or based in Keighley. They seem to be approaching these values so I will be keeping my eyes peeled, not forgetting SV8s if the perfect one crops up for sensible money.
f430hunter said:
theres a one owner very low mileage sv8 on ebay at 18950 fully loaded could be worth contacting seller to see if theres a deal to be had?
That's a bit more than I'd like to spend on an SV8 I think. While I won't rule the right one out, it's too close to R money for my liking. Hatfields Jaguar Hull have an SV8 listed for £12k with 109k on the clock. Bit high mileage but if it's got some sort of main dealer backing might be worth closer inspection. No pictures online though. Mileage doesn't put me off, in fact there is a direct correlation in my car history between less miles = more problems or more miles = less problems! Condition however is everything. Most SV8s seem to be for sale by Joe Bloggs Trade Cars which wouldn't fill me with confidence.
Funnily enough, evo posted a buying guide on XFRs this week. Interesting read, and some of the parts costs weren't as scary as I had expected. Ultimately I think the R is the route I would like to go down, it is the better car. For the SV8 to work for me it would have to be less costly enough to make the sacrifice worthwhile.
All said and done, I'm in no rush to change and am happy waiting for the right car to come along. Ideally an R that isn't shagged for £20k from a dealer that isn't called 'something Trade Cars' or based in Keighley. They seem to be approaching these values so I will be keeping my eyes peeled, not forgetting SV8s if the perfect one crops up for sensible money.
If you're feeling frisky there’s a high mileage XFR on autotrader for 14k. Been there a while so I bet you can get it down a bit as well.
No idea how sane a proposition it would be presuming it's in ok condition. But if it turns out well it's a huge amount of car for the money.
Can run it past jaguar as well I think to get it put back on warranty if it passes their tests.
No idea how sane a proposition it would be presuming it's in ok condition. But if it turns out well it's a huge amount of car for the money.
Can run it past jaguar as well I think to get it put back on warranty if it passes their tests.
eztiger said:
If you're feeling frisky there’s a high mileage XFR on autotrader for 14k. Been there a while so I bet you can get it down a bit as well.
No idea how sane a proposition it would be presuming it's in ok condition. But if it turns out well it's a huge amount of car for the money.
Can run it past jaguar as well I think to get it put back on warranty if it passes their tests.
Not sure I've the balls for it. Can't help feeling that despite that mileage, if all was well with it, it should be up for a little bit more.. Missing front tow hook and alloy centre caps are an initial alarm for me, albeit cheaply fixed.No idea how sane a proposition it would be presuming it's in ok condition. But if it turns out well it's a huge amount of car for the money.
Can run it past jaguar as well I think to get it put back on warranty if it passes their tests.
eztiger said:
Ah - good spot. Agreed.
Might mean it's had a tow at some point in the worst case..
I suppose it's not the end of the world, but why wouldn't the dealer have replaced them? If it was closer to me I'd have a look at it, you never know, it might have full history and run sweet. If the brakes and tyres are decent and it came with a full ticket, could be worth the gamble. Seems unlikely it would throw £5k worth of problems.Might mean it's had a tow at some point in the worst case..
The exact car used by JC on Top Gear is for sale too, but has had a Cat D at some point. Still up for £21k!
If it's under 100k you'll get some sort of warranty from a main dealer. My old SV8 was up at £15k with 60k. How are you funding? If you go pcp route you can negotiate almost everything, even the APR rate. I saved 3% by changing cars!
Whatever you do, I'd recommend a decent warranty. The mechanicals in mine have been solid but the amount of electronics and cost of big items if they do go wrong make a warranty worth it.
Whatever you do, I'd recommend a decent warranty. The mechanicals in mine have been solid but the amount of electronics and cost of big items if they do go wrong make a warranty worth it.
eztiger said:
The R is (relatively) discreet as far as ubersaloons go. But if you know what you're looking for - then it does stand out.
You're probably right about the 5.0 SC XF being US only. I've more than likely picked it's existence up from the US based jag forums. Shame if it's not available over here.
Knowing how hard the R-S suspension works to control the power from the 5.0 SC, and knowing how huge an improvement in handling the R-S is over the R, I really do not think a 5.0 SC without at least the R suspension and active diff would be a good idea at all.You're probably right about the 5.0 SC XF being US only. I've more than likely picked it's existence up from the US based jag forums. Shame if it's not available over here.
I really can't imagine that being a pleasant drive whatsoever!
MrTurner said:
How are you funding? If you go pcp route you can negotiate almost everything, even the APR rate. I saved 3% by changing cars!
I prefer to fund with a bank loan. For monthly cash flow purposes I don't want to borrow more than about £11-12k, the rest will be p/ex and cash. The cheaper the car, the quicker I can afford it essentially. But I won't rush in for the sake of a couple of extra months saving to get the right car.MrTurner said:
Whatever you do, I'd recommend a decent warranty. The mechanicals in mine have been solid but the amount of electronics and cost of big items if they do go wrong make a warranty worth it.
Good to know, thanks. What sort of stuff is common to go on the electrics? The Rs within the sort of budget I'm aiming for currently are outside the main dealer network, and I'm lead to believe most non-manufacturer backed warranties aren't worth the paper they're written on. However I'm looking to purchase later in the year (unless the right car comes up at the right price sooner) so values will possibly be down a little by then. Perhaps early to be researching/watching the market but in the past I have rushed into a car within the space of a few days- this time I want to know what I'm doing and get exactly the car I want.How often do you change cars? Realistically I avoided PCP for so long because I'd never own the car. But I rarely keep them long enough to pay the loan off anyway so haggled a low APR but can afford to drive a much better car. The warranty extension was £130pm so I added that to my HP payment. An independent warranty was about half of that.
I wouldn't say there are any common electrical items, more that the systems are so complex if something does fail it isn't likely to be cheap. In the 7k I had my SV8 for I had (all rectified by main dealers under warranty):
Replacement front discs/pads (wobbled on collection)
Coolant hoses that burnt through (assumed they were touching the downpipes)
Slight misfire - both cats replaced
Windscreen washer pump replaced
Door locking was erratic/confusing (ended up with the door handle/module being replaced)
Fuel flap was erratic opening (replaced the whole thing)
Replacement of one front parking sensor due to corrosion
Blind Spot Monitor on the drivers side stopped working (ECU module change)
I sold it with the following issues:
Windscreen was delaminated
One interior fan was occasionally slower to rotate than the others
Memory switch on the door stopped working (could just have been unplugged due to Blind Spot ECU change)
Wheels wobbled at 50mph and under braking. Stratsone suggested this was pothole/tracking related which I was going to have aligned when I changed the tyres
Wheels were not very well refurbished even though the supplying dealer claimed to have fitted a brand new one (all had some sign of overspray)
But engine/gearbox/suspension were spot on. The quality of the interior was great, the touchscreen was just about OK, but same with any car today with the speed of technological advancement. Power, delivery, TC, stereo (was the upgraded one), all excellent. I think the amount and type of issues on my car were because it was an early production one. The current car is the trial of that! It has had it's supercharger replaced (last year, previous owner), and has an annoying door rattle (I cured that once, will need another look!). Other than that I think I'm just paranoid!
I wouldn't say there are any common electrical items, more that the systems are so complex if something does fail it isn't likely to be cheap. In the 7k I had my SV8 for I had (all rectified by main dealers under warranty):
Replacement front discs/pads (wobbled on collection)
Coolant hoses that burnt through (assumed they were touching the downpipes)
Slight misfire - both cats replaced
Windscreen washer pump replaced
Door locking was erratic/confusing (ended up with the door handle/module being replaced)
Fuel flap was erratic opening (replaced the whole thing)
Replacement of one front parking sensor due to corrosion
Blind Spot Monitor on the drivers side stopped working (ECU module change)
I sold it with the following issues:
Windscreen was delaminated
One interior fan was occasionally slower to rotate than the others
Memory switch on the door stopped working (could just have been unplugged due to Blind Spot ECU change)
Wheels wobbled at 50mph and under braking. Stratsone suggested this was pothole/tracking related which I was going to have aligned when I changed the tyres
Wheels were not very well refurbished even though the supplying dealer claimed to have fitted a brand new one (all had some sign of overspray)
But engine/gearbox/suspension were spot on. The quality of the interior was great, the touchscreen was just about OK, but same with any car today with the speed of technological advancement. Power, delivery, TC, stereo (was the upgraded one), all excellent. I think the amount and type of issues on my car were because it was an early production one. The current car is the trial of that! It has had it's supercharger replaced (last year, previous owner), and has an annoying door rattle (I cured that once, will need another look!). Other than that I think I'm just paranoid!
MrTurner said:
How often do you change cars? Realistically I avoided PCP for so long because I'd never own the car. But I rarely keep them long enough to pay the loan off anyway so haggled a low APR but can afford to drive a much better car. The warranty extension was £130pm so I added that to my HP payment. An independent warranty was about half of that.
I change cars far too often. 19 months so far is the longest I've managed. That said, with the XFR I'm not so sure I would get the itch to switch quite so soon as there's very little out there that's better than it at anything!With regard to finance, I like the bank loans as I find them easier to deal with. I can make overpayments every month (eg. current car is on a 5 year loan but should be paid off before the 2 year mark all being well) or if I want to switch the car early there are no early settlement penalties. I suppose in reality a 5 year loan is similar to a 3 year PCP if you keep the car for 3 years. You still have a figure at the end to pay off. If I were to save money with the PCP I would certainly consider it, however when I've looked before the monthly payments between PCP and 5 year loan always seem very close.
That's quite a list of niggles you had with the SV8. Wouldn't be too happy if it were coming out of my wallet, as I'm sure you wouldn't have! De-laminating windscreens seem incredibly common, some of the Rs listed for sale seem to suffer it too to varying degrees. Really makes the car scruffy.
Someone has just posted their new XFR in the 'Readers Cars' section of the forum. Really not helping me curb my excitement to go out and buy one now!
gds54 said:
De-laminating windscreens seem incredibly common, some of the Rs listed for sale seem to suffer it too to varying degrees. Really makes the car scruffy.
Mine has a very minor case of this. I'm keeping an eye on it whilst in the warranty period. It's a case of 'they all do that sir' though I'm afraid - for the XF in general.gds54 said:
Really not helping me curb my excitement to go out and buy one now!
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