anybody here got an F type?
Discussion
Yep - Just got rid of a V8S Cab, awaiting the arrival of a new V8R 2WD Cab.
Driven the V6S Cab and V8R Coupé at Millbrook relatively hard.
In driving comparisons with Ferrari on track, Aston on road, Porker C4S on road, 911 on track and Box on road, R8 on track, M3 V8 on road, MB ML63 on road the F won hands down...why?
Well it had far more character than any of the others, they all seemed relatively drab to me.
For me at least, the F is the essence of a sportscar.
I did a pretty in-depth review on the F-Type owners club (http://www.ftypeownersclub.co.uk) if you really want some bedtime reading!
There's many a plus point, and a few niggles. Unfortunately I experienced poor metal and paintwork finish, and not much direct support from their HQ. That said, the car is being replaced as I mentioned above, but shouldn't occur anyway.
Driven the V6S Cab and V8R Coupé at Millbrook relatively hard.
In driving comparisons with Ferrari on track, Aston on road, Porker C4S on road, 911 on track and Box on road, R8 on track, M3 V8 on road, MB ML63 on road the F won hands down...why?
Well it had far more character than any of the others, they all seemed relatively drab to me.
For me at least, the F is the essence of a sportscar.
I did a pretty in-depth review on the F-Type owners club (http://www.ftypeownersclub.co.uk) if you really want some bedtime reading!
There's many a plus point, and a few niggles. Unfortunately I experienced poor metal and paintwork finish, and not much direct support from their HQ. That said, the car is being replaced as I mentioned above, but shouldn't occur anyway.
Tel said:
I did a pretty in-depth review on the F-Type owners club (http://www.ftypeownersclub.co.uk) if you really want some bedtime reading!
There's many a plus point, and a few niggles. Unfortunately I experienced poor metal and paintwork finish, and not much direct support from their HQ. That said, the car is being replaced as I mentioned above, but shouldn't occur anyway.
Can find the forum but not the report. Limk?There's many a plus point, and a few niggles. Unfortunately I experienced poor metal and paintwork finish, and not much direct support from their HQ. That said, the car is being replaced as I mentioned above, but shouldn't occur anyway.
Ours has just had its big service , cost was £400 all in , whilst it was there they replaced the drivers seat because or excessive wear , new super charger because ours was noisy (even though to me it was very quiet ) and a new wind deflector . Great service from Marshal Jaguar in Peterborough , still love the car !!!!
Mine got called in the other week for a rear parcel shelf mod to stop it rattling, it wasn't as it happened but they wanted to do it anyway, pretty good customer service so far. They are the only dealer I've ever let wash my car, they cleaned the brake callipers and blackened the tyres, looked like a professional valet not a quick scrub with a dirty sponge as per the usual dealer wash.
Mines due its first service in May, anyone know the going rate for a V6S?
Mines due its first service in May, anyone know the going rate for a V6S?
I have just put a deposit down on a 6 mnth old V6 S Coupe. Salsa red, with sports performance seats, 20"Tornado wheels and Meridian audio.
Its a stunning looker, lets hope it delivers the promise it makes. We are taking it to Europe in the summer, 2 weeks of road trip, taking in the F1 GP at Monza, and the Stelvio.
Its a stunning looker, lets hope it delivers the promise it makes. We are taking it to Europe in the summer, 2 weeks of road trip, taking in the F1 GP at Monza, and the Stelvio.
Yes, I think that's the next one on the Agenda. Salsa Red & Black. It really doesn't get much better looking than that.
Somehow I think that I've got to stretch to the V8 model. The sheer over the top power is intoxicating even if it is a less well balanced car than yours.
I'm also convinced that as time goes on there will be some tasty promotional special editions at reasonable prices. Plainly a Project 7 would have been beyond me. The thing is when to pounce.
Somehow I think that I've got to stretch to the V8 model. The sheer over the top power is intoxicating even if it is a less well balanced car than yours.
I'm also convinced that as time goes on there will be some tasty promotional special editions at reasonable prices. Plainly a Project 7 would have been beyond me. The thing is when to pounce.
Edited by cardigankid on Friday 17th April 20:21
I do find it a little disappointing that a top end F Type, convertible or coupe, is actually more expensive than an equivalent comparable Aston Martin, specifically a V8 Vantage. I thought that the ethos was to deliver the goods for, say, 2/3rds of the cost. I still think that Jaguar are pricing the car out of reach of their target market, and I am hoping they will do something about it.
cardigankid said:
I do find it a little disappointing that a top end F Type, convertible or coupe, is actually more expensive than an equivalent comparable Aston Martin, specifically a V8 Vantage. I thought that the ethos was to deliver the goods for, say, 2/3rds of the cost. I still think that Jaguar are pricing the car out of reach of their target market, and I am hoping they will do something about it.
Think they will sell them for as much as possible they have been recieved very well.cardigankid said:
I do find it a little disappointing that a top end F Type, convertible or coupe, is actually more expensive than an equivalent comparable Aston Martin, specifically a V8 Vantage. I thought that the ethos was to deliver the goods for, say, 2/3rds of the cost. I still think that Jaguar are pricing the car out of reach of their target market, and I am hoping they will do something about it.
I assume you mean F-Type V8 vs Vantage.Well looking at the comparisons and listening to the various videotest etc it seems that the Jag is superior for quite a few aspects and much more of a driver car (to be fair the V8 is now old and will see a replacement in the next few years). Whilst certainly the V8 has image and presence (could be bought even just for that) I do see reasons why the F-Type might be more expensive.
It will be interesting to see what Aston will do with the new Vantage V8
In the old days ( well I am getting on a bit) an Aston was the same sort of cost as a Ferrari and the E type was half the cost or a bit less. What now seems to be the case is that the Jag is still half the cost of a Ferrai but the Aston is no longer a premium supercar like the Ferrari but rather more downmarket. In short its not so much the Jag being expensive as the Aston being cheap - in traditional terms that is.
I still don't think so. A convertible F Type with the essential options is about £75k. The desirable one imho is the V8S convertible. It is extremely easy to exceed £100k specifying one of these. If Jaguar are doing well I am delighted, however I can buy one hell of a new AM V8 Roadster for 100k. In one of those, I am in no doubt that I am in a superior environment though the F may be technically the better car.
From Autocar 25 December 1976
Aston Martin V8 Auto 14485
De Tomaso Pantera GTS. 12578
Ferrari Dino 308 GT4 10895
Ferrari 512 BB. 23868
Lamborghini Countach. 22980
Maserati Bora 13982
Morgan Plus 8. 4899
Porsche 911. 9999
Porsche 911 Turbo. 19499
Rolls Royce Shadow II. 19662
Triumph TR7. 3335
Vauxhall Magnum 2300 2D. 2595
Jaguar XJS. 11243
What I take from the above:-
1. The past is no guide to the future
2. Jaguars are not always good value
3. What was the best value then? Morgan Plus 8
4. What was the best investment? Vauxhall Magnum 2300 or Ferrari 512BB
5. What was the best investment class? Exotica
I want Jaguar to succeed brilliantly, but you have to compare what is available on the market now. An upgraded Jaguar XKR model with 4 genuine seats fantastic internal trim and tremendous performance is £100k any day against Ferrari Cali T and Astons at 150k plus. There is a market for cheap sports cars at 20-30k. These include the Merc SLK, BMW Z4, Audi TT and the MX 5. Above that there is a market for high end sports cars - this includes the Porsche Boxster and Cayman, which appear extraordinary good value against sports/GT's like the AM Vantage, Porsche 911, Merc SL. The best value big GT, now that you can't buy Jaguar XKR's at 60-70k, is the BMW M6. Then you have the luxury GT's at £125-175k. Jaguar is not in that market. McLaren now is, with the 540C, and probably represents the best value.
Where is the F Type in that scheme? That is the big question. It simply isn't a 911 competitor - it's a totally different type of car. It is a Cayman / Boxster rival, but it's just too expensive. At 100k I am either going to buy an Aston, which is that little bit classier, or stretch to a McLaren, which is in a totally different class.
I am all kitted out to buy an F Type - I have one of the best personal registrations you could get for an F Type, which I bought a long time ago in anticipation of the model. But it is simply too expensive, brilliant car though it undoubtedly is. So that leaves the question of where are the deals?
From Autocar 25 December 1976
Aston Martin V8 Auto 14485
De Tomaso Pantera GTS. 12578
Ferrari Dino 308 GT4 10895
Ferrari 512 BB. 23868
Lamborghini Countach. 22980
Maserati Bora 13982
Morgan Plus 8. 4899
Porsche 911. 9999
Porsche 911 Turbo. 19499
Rolls Royce Shadow II. 19662
Triumph TR7. 3335
Vauxhall Magnum 2300 2D. 2595
Jaguar XJS. 11243
What I take from the above:-
1. The past is no guide to the future
2. Jaguars are not always good value
3. What was the best value then? Morgan Plus 8
4. What was the best investment? Vauxhall Magnum 2300 or Ferrari 512BB
5. What was the best investment class? Exotica
I want Jaguar to succeed brilliantly, but you have to compare what is available on the market now. An upgraded Jaguar XKR model with 4 genuine seats fantastic internal trim and tremendous performance is £100k any day against Ferrari Cali T and Astons at 150k plus. There is a market for cheap sports cars at 20-30k. These include the Merc SLK, BMW Z4, Audi TT and the MX 5. Above that there is a market for high end sports cars - this includes the Porsche Boxster and Cayman, which appear extraordinary good value against sports/GT's like the AM Vantage, Porsche 911, Merc SL. The best value big GT, now that you can't buy Jaguar XKR's at 60-70k, is the BMW M6. Then you have the luxury GT's at £125-175k. Jaguar is not in that market. McLaren now is, with the 540C, and probably represents the best value.
Where is the F Type in that scheme? That is the big question. It simply isn't a 911 competitor - it's a totally different type of car. It is a Cayman / Boxster rival, but it's just too expensive. At 100k I am either going to buy an Aston, which is that little bit classier, or stretch to a McLaren, which is in a totally different class.
I am all kitted out to buy an F Type - I have one of the best personal registrations you could get for an F Type, which I bought a long time ago in anticipation of the model. But it is simply too expensive, brilliant car though it undoubtedly is. So that leaves the question of where are the deals?
cardigankid said:
Where is the F Type in that scheme? That is the big question. It simply isn't a 911 competitor - it's a totally different type of car. It is a Cayman / Boxster rival,
So you keep saying, but this is only because that is what you had hoped they'd build for you. They didn't.Claiming that an V8 F-Type is a competitor to the these models is simply bonkers.
Boxster GTS 330PS & 370Nm (£170/PS) *The Porsche website says HP but the numbers work out as PS
Cayman GT4 385PS & 420Nm (£167/PS)
F-Type V6S 380PS & 460Nm (£158/PS)
So there you can argue about them being rivals
But when you look at the V8 its in a whole different ball park. It's packing 45% more power.
F-Type V8 550PS & 680Nm (£157/PS)
Incidentally I thought I'd add the £/PS figure for a laugh before finding out that using this as a metric the V8 is the cheapest model here.
cardigankid said:
I do find it a little disappointing that a top end F Type, convertible or coupe, is actually more expensive than an equivalent comparable Aston Martin, specifically a V8 Vantage. I thought that the ethos was to deliver the goods for, say, 2/3rds of the cost. I still think that Jaguar are pricing the car out of reach of their target market, and I am hoping they will do something about it.
I think that it is obvious that the F Type is overpriced when new - just look at the depreciation. For example, Autotrader has a 2013 20000 mile V8 convertible from a dealer for £53K. That means he has paid £48K for it. Edited by volvos60s60 on Wednesday 22 April 11:42
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