Jaguar XF - Corrosion..!!!
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Not a happy bunny today..!! So after nearly 2 years of fault free motoring I washed the car this weekend and to my utter horror discovered the following areas of body corrosion. I have called my local Jaguar dealer this morning and am running it down there later today for an inspection. I dont think I am being unreasonable in expecting these 'faults' be fully rectified under the anti-perforation warranty. I will update this thread when I know more. For info the vehicle is a 2010 with 56k miles purchased as a Jag approved used car in June 2013 (with 32k miles) and has a full Jag SH.
Nearside Front Wing
Bootlid
Nearside Front Wing
Bootlid
Ok chaps I've just been to have the car inspected at Jaguar. The guy photographed the areas of corrosion and seems quite confident the bootlid will be sorted under warranty. However, he was adament the wing corrosion will not be covered (I suspected as much) but also took a photograph and said he would talk with CS.... His view is that it looks like a stonechip has propagated. However, my view upon inspecting the NS as comparison is that yes, there is some road rash evident but surely the stonechip protection must be insufficient if that is the end result after 4.5 years and 56k miles..!! I don't inspect every inch of the car weekly but it is looked after and goes into Jaguar for servicing, brakes and tyres and they always send me a 100 and whatever point inspection report after every visit so am I being unreasonable that the wing should also be sorted..??
My advice to XF owners though is to check your wheelarches..!!!
My advice to XF owners though is to check your wheelarches..!!!
Ouch
That's poor about the dealer trying to duck out on the wheel arches. How old is the car?
My 20 year old XJ hadn't gone like that before I had the backs of the wheel arches done. LadyB8's MB did but the wings were replaced without a query by MB (along with ... other panels)
That's not good and it's not good service.
That's poor about the dealer trying to duck out on the wheel arches. How old is the car?
My 20 year old XJ hadn't gone like that before I had the backs of the wheel arches done. LadyB8's MB did but the wings were replaced without a query by MB (along with ... other panels)
That's not good and it's not good service.
You'll find that manufacturers corrosion warranties are worded so that you covered if the corrosion starts on the inside and works outwards - specifically so that they are never liable for what could be argued is corrosion due to stonechips and clearly outside of their control
On a car so young I would hang out for a goodwill gesture because I doubt very much they HAVE to do something
On a car so young I would hang out for a goodwill gesture because I doubt very much they HAVE to do something
a8hex said:
Ouch
That's poor about the dealer trying to duck out on the wheel arches. How old is the car?
My 20 year old XJ hadn't gone like that before I had the backs of the wheel arches done. LadyB8's MB did but the wings were replaced without a query by MB (along with ... other panels)
That's not good and it's not good service.
The car was registered in May / June 2010.That's poor about the dealer trying to duck out on the wheel arches. How old is the car?
My 20 year old XJ hadn't gone like that before I had the backs of the wheel arches done. LadyB8's MB did but the wings were replaced without a query by MB (along with ... other panels)
That's not good and it's not good service.
To be fair to the guy at the dealer he was just stating the policy from Jaguar but did promise to escalate via CS for me and I said to him I would appreciate his assistance in resolving the issues as quite frankly I find them unacceptable on a modern vehicle never mind a more 'prestige' marque.
I've done some major miles in many cars and never had that issue on the front wings. Unless it's a common "issue" on the XF models.
I suspect the wing has been previously painted, and the job was poor - Ergo it's rusting like that. A normal stone chip shouldn't do that sort of damage, certainly not flaking off.
Do you know anyone with a paint depth gauge who would be able to measure it for you?
I suspect the wing has been previously painted, and the job was poor - Ergo it's rusting like that. A normal stone chip shouldn't do that sort of damage, certainly not flaking off.
Do you know anyone with a paint depth gauge who would be able to measure it for you?
I've not long traded in an XF a year older than that/51k on the clock. No rust anywhere. Only the rear of the plastic cill covers under the back doors where chipped, no doubt caused by 3 years of gravelly rural roads.
OP - how often did you clean the car? Think I would have spotted that before it got to that stage! Anyway, hope you get it sorted.
OP - how often did you clean the car? Think I would have spotted that before it got to that stage! Anyway, hope you get it sorted.
The car is usually cleaned every couple of weeks but admittely not by my fair hands certainly not in the bad weather. I did notice the 'white' area low down on the sill a few weeks ago when doing a walkaround, might have been a month ago I forget now but did take a closer look at the area and certainly didnt notice the corrosion on the wing.
A bit of research suggests another example albeit in a different area:
http://www.jaginfo.org/showthread.php?8870-Rusty-F...
A bit of research suggests another example albeit in a different area:
http://www.jaginfo.org/showthread.php?8870-Rusty-F...
Edited by ShyTallKnight on Monday 23 March 14:52
cptsideways said:
Even if stone chipped the phosphate/galvanic coating on the steel "should" prevent rust, assuming it has that coating.....
No way should rust propogate like that on a modern car if the initial steel prep was done properly
Have you seen many Audis and Mercs? It's not unusual to see some very crusty wheel arches on those - even fairly recent ones.No way should rust propogate like that on a modern car if the initial steel prep was done properly
jamieduff1981 said:
cptsideways said:
Even if stone chipped the phosphate/galvanic coating on the steel "should" prevent rust, assuming it has that coating.....
No way should rust propogate like that on a modern car if the initial steel prep was done properly
Have you seen many Audis and Mercs? It's not unusual to see some very crusty wheel arches on those - even fairly recent ones.No way should rust propogate like that on a modern car if the initial steel prep was done properly
cptsideways said:
jamieduff1981 said:
cptsideways said:
Even if stone chipped the phosphate/galvanic coating on the steel "should" prevent rust, assuming it has that coating.....
No way should rust propogate like that on a modern car if the initial steel prep was done properly
Have you seen many Audis and Mercs? It's not unusual to see some very crusty wheel arches on those - even fairly recent ones.No way should rust propogate like that on a modern car if the initial steel prep was done properly
It's a complete myth that either of them don't corrode. I was invited to leave an Audi showroom for pointing out bubbling arches on an approved used RS4 2 years ago. An A3 outside had severe bubbling all round both rear arches.
2 pals' A4s rusted badly on the front wings.
They are truely mediocre cars with a reputation maintained solely by British worship.
Edited by jamieduff1981 on Tuesday 24th March 09:23
Looking at your very first pic, there appears to be a definite edge to the paint which looks suspiciously like filler. At such a young age, could this have had a repair in that area before? May have been stone rashed early on, or perhaps caught on a low wall/stone/ kerb and not prepped and treated properly before paint. Boot lid is definitely their problem though.
My last Berlingo van (2005 1/2) was in far better condition than that, even on Orkney roads and tracks but it had a healthy factory application of plasticised stone chip around those vulnerable areas. My 2000 Daimler Super V8 has only a few small marks, bu no corrosion issues.
Hope you get some satisfaction from Jaguar.
My last Berlingo van (2005 1/2) was in far better condition than that, even on Orkney roads and tracks but it had a healthy factory application of plasticised stone chip around those vulnerable areas. My 2000 Daimler Super V8 has only a few small marks, bu no corrosion issues.
Hope you get some satisfaction from Jaguar.
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