Mk. 1 or Mk. 2?

[klunkT5]

@ DBSV8. Dont worry mate its a keeper, And if my circumstances were to change it will be sold to a genuine Jag enthusiast and not an investor! I was 32 yrs in the motor trade and Jag qualified on the S3 XJ6 and XJ40, Looked after the old Plessey company main board fleet of 30+ Jags from 1986-1992, They never had any problems with the way i drove their Jags and especially not with the way i serviced and repaired them Also i have worked on and most probably owned considerably more Jags than you as i am an enthusiast and not an investor, If the bottom fell out of the classic car market tommorow i would laugh my tits off at the thought of all the classic car investors getting their fingers burnt again like they did in the late 80's especially Aston owners

[klunkT5]

Cheers Jith, Proper enthusiast like me

[nikman]

klunkT5 said:

If the bottom fell out of the classic car market tommorow i would laugh my tits off at the thought of all the classic car investors getting their fingers burnt again like they did in the late 80's especially Aston owners

I just can't understand someone who IS invested in the classic car market, whether they like it or not, finding losing value in their posessions, and those of others to be amusing. Nuff said I think!

However I'm not sure what all this is about Aston owners getting their fingers burnt. No proper market goes in a straight line. There are always peaks and troughs but the trend us usually in one direction for a sustained time, particularly when rarity plays a part. Not forgetting that one man's burnt fingers is another man's opportunity, anyone buying a DB5 ANYTIME in the 80's would have seen this last month for their coupe...




OR at more than double that £530,000 (+ buyers premium) for their DB5 Vantage Volante...

[nikman]

jith said:

Well I would do exactly the reverse. My workshop is full of low mileage, unused cars with seized brake calipers, door locks, piston rings, etc, etc.

These cars were made to be driven, and in the case of the 3.8, driven hard. Properly maintained they will be far healthier than an unused car.

J

"Thrashing" the car and not washing it regularly OR not using it until seals dried out and moving parts seized were NOT the two choices!

Here and in much of the rest of Europe, I've driven around a million miles in many different cars including a 1961 3.8 Series 1 E-type (flat floor/Moss box), 1969 Lotus Cortina, 1966 S-Type Jaguar, 1966 MGB (105,000 miles), 1966 stage 6 tuned MGB GT (Janspeed head, twin choke Webbers, c/r factory box etc etc) that had been successfully sprinted and hill climbed before I put in back on the road, 1963 DB4 Series 5 with Vantage/SS engine, 1966 Porsche 911 (70,000 miles), 1998 TVR Chimaera 450 (38,00 miles and counting!) and at least 5 Mercedes (one of them 235,000 miles).

All of these were used if not daily then every few days. All of them totally reliable and all of them indicated triple digits on their speedos every time the law or the track made it possible. But I just can't imagine being motivated to post an identifiable picture and publically declare that I thrashed any one of them and rarely washed it! That was the only point - nothing to do with leaving them sitting around until they seized up as a preference!

[klunkT5]

nikman said:

But I just can't imagine being motivated to post an identifiable picture and publically declare that I thrashed any one of them and rarely washed it! That was the only point - nothing to do with leaving them sitting around until they seized up as a preference!

Silly me, I should have took it to the Goodwood festival of speed this year and thrashed it round the race track and got someone to take a picture for me and posted that, That would have been Ok then would'nt it? Thrashed round a race track and getting dirty like every other car on the circuit that day unless driven by an investor who cant take it over 2000 rpm because the engine will wear out and has to keep polishing it so he can brag to everyone about how much its worth! In addition to my comments about the market crashing the bigger plus is hopefully the investment cars ending up back in the hands of enthusiasts where they belong, Being thrashed and used daily

[klunkT5]

And not being washed very often

[DBSV8]

klunkT5 said:

@ DBSV8. Dont worry mate its a keeper, And if my circumstances were to change it will be sold to a genuine Jag enthusiast and not an investor! I was 32 yrs in the motor trade and Jag qualified on the S3 XJ6 and XJ40, Looked after the old Plessey company main board fleet of 30+ Jags from 1986-1992, They never had any problems with the way i drove their Jags and especially not with the way i serviced and repaired them Also i have worked on and most probably owned considerably more Jags than you as i am an enthusiast and not an investor, If the bottom fell out of the classic car market tommorow i would laugh my tits off at the thought of all the classic car investors getting their fingers burnt again like they did in the late 80's especially Aston owners

i'm not going to bite

suffice to say

I am not an investor , definitely a car enthusiast who drives their cars as they are meant to be driven ,the lotus 22 is a case in point , if you want to drive a fast car that gives instant driver feedback ,with retro feel,then its a fantastic machine to drive

take the E type this was a total basket case ,that was fully restored to bare metal back in 2008 ,

in my ownership ive receipts for over 20k in maintenance , improvements and upgrades , cooper craft brakes, slightly larger wires, high pressure oil pump rebuild engine twice and regularly serviced by Don Hansford ( an old school time served jag mechanic with over 50 years experience) its a car I drive everyday when opportunity arises. Completely agree with jith , these cars need to be driven as frequently as possible , however there's a difference between driving a classic daily ,doing the routine maintenance checks , and jumping in ye...haaa style, red lining in every gear ,and then not bothering to check or maintain your classic as you have stated.

you come across in your posts as an individual who has a chip on their shoulder or an agenda ?
some sort of Harry Endfield character springs to mind ....
.............oh and regarding the dig at Astons .."DBS" are my initials !!they do not refer to aston ownership , although if I could afford one a DB9 would be nice

one recommendation I could give you if you like driving your classic in the rain , invest in a carcoon , then you can drive in the rain , drive into the carcoon and it will dry itself out and maintain its integrity ............then when you come to sell it to a jag enthusiast he wont pick it to pieces

good luck

Edited by DBSV8 on Tuesday 9th June 14:31

[klunkT5]

I'm anal in my car maintenance, 1964 MK2 no advisorys at recent MOT Harry Enfield...Love it! Cheers for heads up about carcoon, Nice E-Type

[DBSV8]

klunkT5 said:

I'm anal in my car maintenance, 1964 MK2 no advisorys at recent MOT Harry Enfield...Love it! Cheers for heads up about carcoon, Nice E-Type

thanks

ive enclosed a link to Carcoons , the one I have is the Veloce , you simply drive the car in , zip it up optional battery conditioner connector if you want .

The beauty about them if the car is wet , you unzip the vent and after several hours the car is bone dry.


http://www.carcoon.com/carcoon-indoor-veloce

cheers

[mph]

klunkT5 said:

Mph, To make your MK2 look 'Sportier' ditch the badge bar, First thing i did with mine! Great to see ours havent got wing mirrors aswell, They look awful with them fitted BTW mines used and thrashed daily and does'nt get washed a lot.
[/footnote]

Normally I would ditch the badge bar, but it's been on the car for a very long time and the car has such a lot of history that I'll probably keep it in place.

I'm even considering keeping the nodding dog on the back shelf....

[klunkT5]

The nodding dogs ace Saw a MK2 the same colour/ Condition as yours in Bradworthy a while back, Rarely see other MK2's on the road these days.

[klunkT5]

Now this ones scary!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jaguar-Mk2-1960-/2619182...

Ive never seen roof corrosion like this even on 2 rotten MK2's i stripped for parts years ago, And the roof corrosion on this one is showing evidence of being previously repaired as theres filler evident, This car must of been damp for quite a long period, Just look at the state of the interior ie: Door cards and headlining aswell as the body condition, This ones only good for parts in my opinion, The shells too far gone.

Edited by klunkT5 on Thursday 11th June 11:06

[DBSV8]

klunkT5 said:

Now this ones scary!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jaguar-Mk2-1960-/2619182...

Ive never seen roof corrosion like this even on 2 rotten MK2's i stripped for parts years ago, And the roof corrosion on this one is showing evidence of being previously repaired as theres filler evident, This car must of been damp for quite a long period, Just look at the state of the interior ie: Door cards and headlining aswell as the body condition, This ones only good for parts in my opinion, The shells too far gone.

Edited by klunkT5 on Thursday 11th June 11:06

you know you could turn this in to a Withnail & I apreciation car

[corporalsparrow]

Big mistake looking at this thread.

Now I want a Mk1 as a race car.

[nikman]

corporalsparrow said:

Big mistake looking at this thread.

Now I want a Mk1 as a race car.

No sooner said than... http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/j... done!

[nikman]

mph said:

I'm even considering keeping the nodding dog on the back shelf....

OHHHH YYESSSSS

Edited by nikman on Thursday 11th June 18:22

[jith]

nikman said:

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I'm even considering keeping the nodding dog on the back shelf....

OHHHH YYESSSSS

Personally I'd prefer a topless, swaying Hula dancer in a grass skirt!

J

[a8hex]

jith said:

Personally I'd prefer a topless, swaying Hula dancer in a grass skirt!

J

But wouldn't she be better sitting next to you up front than on the parcel shelf at the back?
(Hula dancers shouldn't be left on the shelf)

Oh dear and it isn't even Friday yet.

[klunkT5]

DBSV8 said:

you know you could turn this in to a Withnail & I apreciation car

I saw some pic's from the sale advert for this MK2 when it was bought for the film, It was tatty but very original looking, They smashed it up a bit for the film, I expect it ended up getting scrapped? Unlike the Morse 2.4! And please, No comments about mine looking like that in 5yrs time

Edited by klunkT5 on Thursday 11th June 20:45