Considering buying a 2006-09 XF 2.7 TDVi
Discussion
pherlopolus said:
I had an s-type with the 2.7 diesel engine, and aside from the the omnipresent threat of lunched turbos or spinning main bearings it was ok, and returned 43 if driven very carefully on the motorway, 24 round town, long time average of about 33mpg.
If it's not had a cambelt change it will need one soon (10 years / 105k miles, same for fuel pump belt)
If I had known when I bought it I was only going to be doing 10k pa i'd have bought a V8.
My experience exactly. Some big bills leading to constant concern that spoiled the car for me. It was underpowered too, and the economy was little better than the 3.0 V6 petrol or V8. If it's not had a cambelt change it will need one soon (10 years / 105k miles, same for fuel pump belt)
If I had known when I bought it I was only going to be doing 10k pa i'd have bought a V8.
If I was doing 9000 miles a year there is no way in hell I'd entertain the idea of a diesel engine. You stand to save £40 odd quid a month over the V8, and the V8 cars are likely to be lower mileage, higher spec and better looked after. They'll get 30mpg+ on a long run and they are pretty much bullet proof.
dme123 said:
My experience exactly. Some big bills leading to constant concern that spoiled the car for me. It was underpowered too, and the economy was little better than the 3.0 V6 petrol or V8.
If I was doing 9000 miles a year there is no way in hell I'd entertain the idea of a diesel engine. You stand to save £40 odd quid a month over the V8, and the V8 cars are likely to be lower mileage, higher spec and better looked after. They'll get 30mpg+ on a long run and they are pretty much bullet proof.
This ^^^If I was doing 9000 miles a year there is no way in hell I'd entertain the idea of a diesel engine. You stand to save £40 odd quid a month over the V8, and the V8 cars are likely to be lower mileage, higher spec and better looked after. They'll get 30mpg+ on a long run and they are pretty much bullet proof.
We ran a 4.2 S-Type for 3 years and 30k miles and all it needed out of turn was a parking sensor. It was £3000 cheaper than an identical 2.7D at the same dealer at the time of purchase
V88Dicky said:
dme123 said:
My experience exactly. Some big bills leading to constant concern that spoiled the car for me. It was underpowered too, and the economy was little better than the 3.0 V6 petrol or V8.
If I was doing 9000 miles a year there is no way in hell I'd entertain the idea of a diesel engine. You stand to save £40 odd quid a month over the V8, and the V8 cars are likely to be lower mileage, higher spec and better looked after. They'll get 30mpg+ on a long run and they are pretty much bullet proof.
This ^^^If I was doing 9000 miles a year there is no way in hell I'd entertain the idea of a diesel engine. You stand to save £40 odd quid a month over the V8, and the V8 cars are likely to be lower mileage, higher spec and better looked after. They'll get 30mpg+ on a long run and they are pretty much bullet proof.
We ran a 4.2 S-Type for 3 years and 30k miles and all it needed out of turn was a parking sensor. It was £3000 cheaper than an identical 2.7D at the same dealer at the time of purchase
t. I understand the 2.7d XF, sharing the drivetrain as it does, is a similar ownership experience.That said I'm not sure a 3.0d with the plumbing in the filthy exhaust stream and intake paths for the parallel/sequential turbocharger setup is something I'd want to own past about 80K miles.
V88Dicky said:
Good grief! I'm sorry to here of your woes with that one.
I believe that engine was a joint Peugeot-Ford effort, I think Ford must have given Peugeot the lead in its development!
I think Jaguar packaging and ancillaries was probably a big part of the problem. The turbochargers got too hot and cooked the VNT modules and the packaging was so poor it was a massive job to get them out. I believe that engine was a joint Peugeot-Ford effort, I think Ford must have given Peugeot the lead in its development!
I think personally that the hype that engine received at launch was really not justified. It was quiet and refined (for a diesel) but that's where it's positive attributes ended. I think it only sold because of the ridiculous BIK tax rules based on CO2 because without them the 3.0 V6 petrol was a much better buy.
Ford engine, but used in the large pug and citroens as well as the Landrovers, which also have problems with them. I know a few discovery owners who have had expensive issues with the turbo and DPFs. Expect to shell out £2000 plus for the DPF and fitting when the time comes. It seems, the later the engine, more complex to get through the euro 5 emissions. You would need to be brave to take on one of these with big miles and some warranty firms put a limit on the mileage. The petrels are much simpler and seem to last pretty well.
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