XJS V12 Runs then stops

XJS V12 Runs then stops

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vpr

Original Poster:

3,711 posts

239 months

Sunday 17th April 2016
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Saves on the fuel I guess

1989 V12

So it starts up then after a few minutes stop....wont start.

Leave for a 5 mins and it starts ok ......runs and then stops again

Took me 2 days to get to work smile

Any ideas?

DrDeAtH

3,588 posts

233 months

Sunday 17th April 2016
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Sounds like an ignition module breaking down (if it has one)
Hence why once it has cooled down after a while, the car will restart.

Orcadian

312 posts

136 months

Sunday 17th April 2016
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As well as the aforementioned, it would also be worth checking the water temp sensor - they are a known trouble spot and can give your intermittent fault until they finally give up altogether. Negative temp coefficient type which have reducing resistance as temp rises. If you have one available or can scrounge one, a 2.2 k resistor pushed between the terminals on the disconnected connector will get you going without the fault. If that cures it then a new sender is easy to fit to a cold engine and the little bit of coolant you lose is insignificant if you are quick to change it.
Ian

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

254 months

Wednesday 20th April 2016
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crank position sensor can have a heat-related intermittent failure.

vpr

Original Poster:

3,711 posts

239 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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Thank You Gentlemen

It seems as though it might be the temp sender. Passenger side water rail furthest forward. There seems to be hundreds of sensors on the rails but I believe this is the one that sends signals to the ECU?

I've changed it and all seems well but it seems too easy smile

Is there an XJS specific forum?

Many Thanks




Orcadian

312 posts

136 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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There is a lot of info on the Jag Enthusiasts Club web site.and a section for XJS. You don't have to be a member to search but obviously you will to post. Does yours have marelli electrics? - I can't remember when the changeover was.
Hope your recent fix stays put.

Ian

Forgot to say that yes, there is one water temp sensor which sends a signal to the ECU and if it falls outside the design resistance it thinks there is an overheat condition and then the fuelling is cut off - not a nice feeling in the outside lane of the M6! This was before the architecture was improved to include a substitute value for 'limp home'
Roger Bywater at AJ6 Engineering has immense knowledge of these these cars (he developed much of the electronics on these cars whe he was at Jaguar) He has written a very useful book on all aspects of Injection/ignition by microprocessor- worth every penny as these cars start to age and garages seem only able to fix faults by throwing expensive parts at them and still often not finding the exact fault.

Edited by Orcadian on Friday 22 April 08:18


Edited by Orcadian on Friday 22 April 08:20

vpr

Original Poster:

3,711 posts

239 months

Friday 22nd April 2016
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Orcadian said:
There is a lot of info on the Jag Enthusiasts Club web site.and a section for XJS. You don't have to be a member to search but obviously you will to post. Does yours have marelli electrics? - I can't remember when the changeover was.
Hope your recent fix stays put.

Ian

Forgot to say that yes, there is one water temp sensor which sends a signal to the ECU and if it falls outside the design resistance it thinks there is an overheat condition and then the fuelling is cut off - not a nice feeling in the outside lane of the M6! This was before the architecture was improved to include a substitute value for 'limp home'
Roger Bywater at AJ6 Engineering has immense knowledge of these these cars (he developed much of the electronics on these cars whe he was at Jaguar) He has written a very useful book on all aspects of Injection/ignition by microprocessor- worth every penny as these cars start to age and garages seem only able to fix faults by throwing expensive parts at them and still often not finding the exact fault.

Edited by Orcadian on Friday 22 April 08:18


Edited by Orcadian on Friday 22 April 08:20
Yes it has Marelli. It has two king leads one goes to the Marelli coil? and the other to another unit which sits under it.

Useful tip on AJ6 Engineering..Thanks

aceparts

3,724 posts

242 months

Friday 29th April 2016
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My dad had this issue for years.... Accidentally discovered it was the temp sensor!

vpr

Original Poster:

3,711 posts

239 months

Friday 29th April 2016
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Yes...It was the temp sender

Seems a very common fault