F Type - Used 2014 V6 or V8 ?

F Type - Used 2014 V6 or V8 ?

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JetskiJezz

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662 posts

135 months

Monday 2nd May 2016
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I'm thinking about selling my V8 Vantage Roadster (it's a 2008 manual 4.3) and replacing it with an F-type. I bought the Aston Martin purely as a stopgap whilst waiting to see what happened with the used car values with the F-type. I've been lucky, the Aston seems to have gone up in value whilst the F type has dropped, but not quite by as much as I had thought/hoped.

I've been watching auto trader almost religiously every day just to see what seems to be going on with advertised prices.

The gap between a V6 and V8 doesn't seem to be quite as wide as I thought it would be. Although a couple of months back there were a few sensible mileage v6's advertised at around £38,000, the current prices seem to be more like £40,000.
What's confusing me however is that a v6S seems to be more like £43,000 (dependent on mileage spec and condition of course) whereas the v8's seem to start at not much more, somewhere around £45,000/£46,000.

I had initially said once they come to be hit £40,000 I would seriously think about buying one, with the above in mind, the v6 is now in that sort of price range.

So I just wonder what the general thoughts and opinions were. To me it would be far more sensible to go for the more powerful and usually better specification v8 when the difference is only going to be say £3,000 - £4,000. A lot of the reviews I've seen seem to think the v6s is the one to go for, but the reviews are all based on new prices where there is a much bigger gap between them.

When they first came out, I was lucky enough to be in a position to hire a v6 from Munich and spend a week driving round the Alps. I enjoyed it so much I went back with a friend a few months later and hired the v6 S and did the same thing. Haven't however driven the v8, things have been more than a little hectic and with a combination of bad weather and nothing interesting being local just haven't had the chance yet.

akadk

1,477 posts

178 months

Monday 2nd May 2016
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the V8 S will hold its value

you have to remember they discontinued it from 2015, and introduced the £90k R convertible - which no one has bought, and all the dealer demo's were Black AWD R Convertibles

ergo, the volume on the ground of V8 S is LOW.

The relatively small gap in price vs. the V6 S will widen IMO, I think the V6 S will settle <£40k and the V8 S will settle >£40k - likely be a £5k premium - like for like mileage / age.

The R coupe's are holding better than I thought, and this is likely keeping the V8 S's bit higher, that and time of year also.

I have R Coupe and a V8 S.

I can notice the (10)% power deficit on the Convertible (emphasised by the weight penalty) ... so I would find the V6 S lacking bit in power.

Go for a V8 S - but getting more difficult to find a good one now they are getting more miles on

I was lucky and found one with 3,000 miles on !

tcant

308 posts

210 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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I've also been following classifieds closely and totally agree that the price differential between a convertible 2013 V6S and V8S is ridiculously small considering the huge difference in RRP between the two when new. The cars are now coming up 3 years old so I would expect a lot more coming to market at the end of 3 year PCP deals (and again next year at the end of 4). I think V6S's will then start dropping below £40k and the V8's will remain above with the gap widening.

I am after a convertible R AWD and notice the first ones are coming down sub £70k and would expect to pick one up March next year at £55k (hopefully!)





JetskiJezz

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662 posts

135 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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I'm pretty sure the V8 will be the one to have in the long run especially when it is compared to its new or original price.

I'm surprised I haven't had anyone commenting about the change from the Aston Martin to the F-Type, I posted pretty much the same question under the Jaguar forum of piston heads and have received countless comments about the Jaguar being fake in terms of the noise and a poor, plastic imitation of the Aston Martin.

tcant

308 posts

210 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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JetskiJezz said:
I'm surprised I haven't had anyone commenting about the change from the Aston Martin to the F-Type, I posted pretty much the same question under the Jaguar forum of piston heads and have received countless comments about the Jaguar being fake in terms of the noise and a poor, plastic imitation of the Aston Martin.
There is a member here who goes by the name lady topaz from memory. She is a massive petrolhead and has owned the v8 and v12 vantage. She sold them and moved to the f type and I read one of her posts saying she would never go back.

Maybe she will be along to add more colour to her reasoning.

I have driven both and I personally prefer the looks and theatre that goes with the f type. The Aston is beautiful but built on old architecture and is not that quick in v8 guise by modern standards. The f type is built from scratch from the bottom up and is modern in comparison. That's my opinion of course!!

akadk

1,477 posts

178 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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tcant said:
I've also been following classifieds closely and totally agree that the price differential between a convertible 2013 V6S and V8S is ridiculously small considering the huge difference in RRP between the two when new. The cars are now coming up 3 years old so I would expect a lot more coming to market at the end of 3 year PCP deals (and again next year at the end of 4). I think V6S's will then start dropping below £40k and the V8's will remain above with the gap widening.

I am after a convertible R AWD and notice the first ones are coming down sub £70k and would expect to pick one up March next year at £55k (hopefully!)
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LOL, you have no chance of picking up an R AWD for vert for £55k in 12 months time...more like £60k at a push.

Their volume in the market is tiny which will keep their prices firm once they get to sensible levels which £60k+ is for its age and market position

V8 Vantage GT

1,563 posts

105 months

Wednesday 4th May 2016
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tcant said:
I have driven both and I personally prefer the looks and theatre that goes with the f type. The Aston is beautiful but built on old architecture and is not that quick in v8 guise by modern standards. The f type is built from scratch from the bottom up and is modern in comparison. That's my opinion of course!!
The Aston is a timeless design, looks as beautiful today as it did 10 years ago. Something the F type won't do. Much prefer the looks over the F type. Aston is a hand built car with much attention to detail. The Jaguar is a mass produced car, built to a price point, which is evident in their fit and finish especially on the quality of the interior of the car. The F type is built on a shortened modified XK chassis, which can trace its lineage back to Fords DEW chassis. Which is a remarkable chassis, Jaguars are some of the best road cars built today. Nothing will eat up the miles as comfortably and in style as a modern Jaguar. If you want to drive hard and fast, nothing is gong to beat a Jaguar.

Edited by V8 Vantage GT on Wednesday 4th May 07:21

tcant

308 posts

210 months

Wednesday 4th May 2016
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Maybe a little optimistic at 55K agreed but private sale won't be much than that I think.
The difference in price between the last of the V8s and the first V8r AWD is huge so depending on whether that gap gets smaller I could always get one of the last V8s's. biggrin

akadk

1,477 posts

178 months

Wednesday 4th May 2016
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how many private sale V8 R Coupe's have you seen so far ????

very few is the answer (i've watched the V8 F-TYPE market every day for the last year)

JetskiJezz

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662 posts

135 months

Thursday 19th May 2016
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I've just sold my Aston Martin Vantage Roadster and so begin the hunt for a replacement.
When I posted this thread originally, I wasn't sure if I wanted to sell the Aston, but the price I got through it made the decision really easy in the end.

Anyone got any thoughts on comparing the V8 with the V6? prices seen to be higher at the moment than they were only just a couple of months ago, I'm guessing that the little bit of sunshine making a difference.

akadk

1,477 posts

178 months

Thursday 19th May 2016
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V8 is the only way, especially from AMV8

Phil.

4,755 posts

249 months

Thursday 19th May 2016
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Advertised prices for used V8S's are all over the place. Many unrealistic and not moving. I am watching daily at the moment. Check out PH and Autotrader for evidence. Prices are dropping but I think there will be significant drop in Sept/Oct when I'm planning on buying my second V8S. Buyers market at the moment in my opinion.

akadk

1,477 posts

178 months

Thursday 19th May 2016
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i disagree

for the next few month, demand will outstrip supply on V8 S, especially for a good spec / low mileage / good condition one

but agree, come Sept, they will drop

Phil.

4,755 posts

249 months

Thursday 19th May 2016
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akadk said:
i disagree

for the next few month, demand will outstrip supply on V8 S, especially for a good spec / low mileage / good condition one

but agree, come Sept, they will drop
Disagree with what? That overpriced advertised V8S's are not selling or the prices are all over the place? Take a look at Autotrader for the latter. The former is evidenced by the time the overpriced models have spent being advertised. Reasonably priced V8S's are selling and there is no shortage of cars for sale with a variety of age and mileage options.

PS This low mileage example has been around for a while because it's over priced:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...


Edited by Phil. on Thursday 19th May 22:21

akadk

1,477 posts

178 months

Thursday 19th May 2016
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If that car had the right spec it would sell

Wrong seats, wrong wheel, base sound system ... And yes, over priced.

£50k is the sweet spot at the moment for a good one.

Phil.

4,755 posts

249 months

Friday 20th May 2016
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Agreed.

JetskiJezz

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662 posts

135 months

Friday 20th May 2016
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Phil. said:
Advertised prices for used V8S's are all over the place. Many unrealistic and not moving. I am watching daily at the moment. Check out PH and Autotrader for evidence. Prices are dropping but I think there will be significant drop in Sept/Oct when I'm planning on buying my second V8S. Buyers market at the moment in my opinion.
I pretty much think the same thing. There are a couple of private sale cars, one of which is £46,750 - 20,000 miles, but also two owners. The thing is, the cheapest advertised baseline v6 is still £40k, so something isn't right somewhere.

Dealers who seem to be picking random prices for them at the moment, there is quite a bit of variation.



JetskiJezz

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Friday 20th May 2016
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akadk said:
If that car had the right spec it would sell

Wrong seats, wrong wheel, base sound system ... And yes, over priced.

£50k is the sweet spot at the moment for a good one.
I wouldn't necessarily agree with the wrong Wheels - looks however just to be a relatively basic spec car. I suspect the biggest issue is a £50k car at a relatively minor nonspecialist, non-main dealer. So, as you say - overpriced.

Just out of interest, what would you say were the right wheels?

Phil.

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249 months

Friday 20th May 2016
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The spec on this one is ok, except it's missing the exhaust 'loud' button and the colour isn't to everyone's taste. However, being a 2013 it's overpriced. I'm comparing this my 2014 4K mile V8S that was sold by a Jag dealer for £57k last August and I received £55k. I would expect that my old car with a few more miles to be advertised now at the same price or less than this when taking in to account a reasonable level of depreciation. The 2015 version in the same colour at £58k seems better value. So best to sit it out for while until 2013/14 prices become more realistic.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...


Edited by Phil. on Friday 20th May 13:26

akadk

1,477 posts

178 months

Friday 20th May 2016
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JetskiJezz said:
I wouldn't necessarily agree with the wrong Wheels - looks however just to be a relatively basic spec car. I suspect the biggest issue is a £50k car at a relatively minor nonspecialist, non-main dealer. So, as you say - overpriced.

Just out of interest, what would you say were the right wheels?
I meant wrong Steering wheel

IMO the Sport Flat Bottom is preferred