Jag XFR knocking noise from engine, very worrying
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Had a look through the paper work they gave me, noticed that J059 fuel flange change was carried out.
Given that i can smell petrol this morning, it may be something to do with this? There was heavy rain last night too.
If it is engine related, guess they need to sort it out under their warranty.
Car is being collected by them this morning and i have already been given a courtesy car.
Given that i can smell petrol this morning, it may be something to do with this? There was heavy rain last night too.
If it is engine related, guess they need to sort it out under their warranty.
Car is being collected by them this morning and i have already been given a courtesy car.
Just had a call from the JMD manager, apparently a fuel injector has gone and this has caused the problems. They are now getting costs.
I'm really f
ked off with this all now. And will most likely get shot of the car, when it's fixed.
Fuel injectors would have been moved over from the old engine? Or more likely water in the tank?
I'm really f
ked off with this all now. And will most likely get shot of the car, when it's fixed. Fuel injectors would have been moved over from the old engine? Or more likely water in the tank?
I've been told the injector is stuck open, hence the smell of petrol and the white smoke. These parts retail at £450, but I'm not convinced. Given the poor diagnosis for the past, I feel there maybe other issues. Can an injector be fixed if it's stuck open? Would water in the petrol tank effect all injectors or can it only hit just one?
I was told the xfr doesn't have a fuel filter.
There wasn't one to change when I brought it in for the major service, back in December.
Anyhow, JMD have called to say they will replace the injector free of charge, as a good will gesture.
But I've really lost confidence in the car now.
I've been lucky so far, but that's not going to continue.
There wasn't one to change when I brought it in for the major service, back in December.
Anyhow, JMD have called to say they will replace the injector free of charge, as a good will gesture.
But I've really lost confidence in the car now.
I've been lucky so far, but that's not going to continue.
Edited by XFRFred on Sunday 26th March 17:41
The injector has been changed and they driven the car about 50 miles to test it.
I should hopefully hear more on Monday.
Thinking ahead though, should there be some kind of "warranty" period on the non-serviceable parts?
The injectors sound like they are very delicate and a damaged one will cause havoc. I've been lucky to have this replaced without any cost to me, but what would happen when the next expensive part fails (which could be linked to the engine change and possibly caused by them).
And would one injector that was stuck open cause the car to be running that poorly?
I should hopefully hear more on Monday.
Thinking ahead though, should there be some kind of "warranty" period on the non-serviceable parts?
The injectors sound like they are very delicate and a damaged one will cause havoc. I've been lucky to have this replaced without any cost to me, but what would happen when the next expensive part fails (which could be linked to the engine change and possibly caused by them).
And would one injector that was stuck open cause the car to be running that poorly?
I had a phone call from the manager today, with good news.
They will be replacing all the injectors, as the one that failed was not the new one that was put in.
There was no reason why it failed or the source of the issue.
It's really weird. I have a failure and there is no admission of fault, but (and thankfully) the failure to corrected with no cost to me, only the inconvenience of the lost of my car for a number of days; however i am given a new courtesy car to keep me running.
I've also asked about a warranty to cover everything under the bonnet (all components directly or indirectly related to the engine swap out)for the next year; they will get back to me on that.
They will be replacing all the injectors, as the one that failed was not the new one that was put in.
There was no reason why it failed or the source of the issue.
It's really weird. I have a failure and there is no admission of fault, but (and thankfully) the failure to corrected with no cost to me, only the inconvenience of the lost of my car for a number of days; however i am given a new courtesy car to keep me running.
I've also asked about a warranty to cover everything under the bonnet (all components directly or indirectly related to the engine swap out)for the next year; they will get back to me on that.
Found this:
"The early car 4.2ltr the fuel filter is in front of the rear axle by the side of the fuel take on the left hand side. 2010 model year with the 5.0ltr engine does not have a fuel filter. There is a pick up filter in the tank which is not serviceable"
So there is a filter of somekind, but not the usual one that can be replaced.
"The early car 4.2ltr the fuel filter is in front of the rear axle by the side of the fuel take on the left hand side. 2010 model year with the 5.0ltr engine does not have a fuel filter. There is a pick up filter in the tank which is not serviceable"
So there is a filter of somekind, but not the usual one that can be replaced.
Just an update to this, as there are issues with the running of the car.
As mentioned, the car went back to the JMD to have all the injectors replaced, i happened to have the car for circa 2 weeks and covered just over 400miles.
There is now the issue where the car seems to be running rich and there is an EML on the dash.
It's going back to the JMD today, but the car seems to be lumpy as hell at the moment.
https://youtu.be/540hnvEZTb8
Any ideas on what could be causing this issue?
As mentioned, the car went back to the JMD to have all the injectors replaced, i happened to have the car for circa 2 weeks and covered just over 400miles.
There is now the issue where the car seems to be running rich and there is an EML on the dash.
It's going back to the JMD today, but the car seems to be lumpy as hell at the moment.
https://youtu.be/540hnvEZTb8
Any ideas on what could be causing this issue?
It's been a while, but i think i can give closure to this thread.
I picked up the car on the 2nd of June and finally i have a car that is once again magnificent.
As you know, the engine was replaced as was a full set of injectors.
The last set of issues that i had, meant that the JMD needed to speak to the Jaguar Tech department; apapparently these guys are the guru's and what they say goes.
Lots of testing was carried out by the JMD and they were communicating with the techs, and another new set of injectors and spark plugs were installed.
After some more road tests, it turns out that both fuel pumps needed to be replaced too.
All the dink marks down the side of the car were corrected and i even had a new R badge put on the back, due to the last one being broken by a cleaner.
The car seems quicker than before, it's also a lot more vocal with the pops and bangs on the down shift, which never really happened before. This happens a lot shifting down from 2nd to 1st
All in all I'm very happy to have her back.
I've covered over 500 miles since the start of this month, both quick motorway work, driving through the moorlands in the Peak District and the stop start stuff in London and she hasn't faulted once.
The one last issue that i need to fix is the tracking, she seems to pull to the left a bit. But hats off to the JMD manager, he has said that i need to pop him an email with the invoice and this will be covered too.
All i need after that is a stage 1 exhaust upgrade to match the stage 2 on the back from Spires and i think i'm set.
I picked up the car on the 2nd of June and finally i have a car that is once again magnificent.
As you know, the engine was replaced as was a full set of injectors.
The last set of issues that i had, meant that the JMD needed to speak to the Jaguar Tech department; apapparently these guys are the guru's and what they say goes.
Lots of testing was carried out by the JMD and they were communicating with the techs, and another new set of injectors and spark plugs were installed.
After some more road tests, it turns out that both fuel pumps needed to be replaced too.
All the dink marks down the side of the car were corrected and i even had a new R badge put on the back, due to the last one being broken by a cleaner.
The car seems quicker than before, it's also a lot more vocal with the pops and bangs on the down shift, which never really happened before. This happens a lot shifting down from 2nd to 1st
All in all I'm very happy to have her back.
I've covered over 500 miles since the start of this month, both quick motorway work, driving through the moorlands in the Peak District and the stop start stuff in London and she hasn't faulted once.
The one last issue that i need to fix is the tracking, she seems to pull to the left a bit. But hats off to the JMD manager, he has said that i need to pop him an email with the invoice and this will be covered too.
All i need after that is a stage 1 exhaust upgrade to match the stage 2 on the back from Spires and i think i'm set.
Earlier this year, i was very much in the mindset of selling it and maybe moving on to a slightly newer (facelift) XFR or XKR.
But as mentioned above, i know the history of this XFR now.
New engine, injectors, spark plugs, filters, fuel pumps.
I've also changed the e-diff on the back, all with a warranty. This would have been £xx, xxx if i had to do this myself.
Plus the paint work has been sorted and i can get the JMD to pay for the 4 wheel alignment.
All i need to do now is service the gearbox (at an indy specilist), refurbish the wheels, and install a stage 1 Spires mid section.
Later on a remap and she will be good for a few more years.
It took me nearly 3 months to find this XFR, so with all the work that's been done, i think i will stick with it for now
But as mentioned above, i know the history of this XFR now.
New engine, injectors, spark plugs, filters, fuel pumps.
I've also changed the e-diff on the back, all with a warranty. This would have been £xx, xxx if i had to do this myself.
Plus the paint work has been sorted and i can get the JMD to pay for the 4 wheel alignment.
All i need to do now is service the gearbox (at an indy specilist), refurbish the wheels, and install a stage 1 Spires mid section.
Later on a remap and she will be good for a few more years.
It took me nearly 3 months to find this XFR, so with all the work that's been done, i think i will stick with it for now
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